Awaymag Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Chris_R said: That's fair. I apologise. Clearly some of you can talk about it like grown-ups. My problem is that many people in that thread - Not all, sorry again for the generalisation - refuse to acknowledge that the failure of the takeover is even possible. It's just exhausting to even try to engage with these people. Fine though, they have their thread where they can all be like that and I'll stay out, out of respect, because it's segregated and not hurting anyone. But really it needs to stay there and not infest the rest of the board because it's not reflective of how the world actually is. There's 2 threads for a reason. The positive thread was created as a light hearted thread for those that wanted to believe the takeover goes ahead, for things like weird twitter links, for reading into de marcos bread tweets etc. Whats happened is that this forum couldn't handle that and the bit of your comment in bold highlights the very issue. The people in thread don't want to be engage with possible of failure of the takeover, that is what this thread is for. The positive thread is as its title suggests - for positive comments! 8 months later and we are still having this misunderstanding. Just admit it, you and others can't resist but to go in and fish for a reaction! Edited June 16, 2021 by Awaymag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 48 minutes ago, gdm said: It's always a bonus when someone agrees with you, no matter how flawed their reasoning might be Clap away. Me, I am just an NUFC fan who wants the best for his club, as I always have, and presently that "best" is very, very, exciting! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, manorpark said: Back to yours, no delusions here mate. You can’t discuss an actual point properly. You either ignore it or post the same nonsense you always post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Awaymag said: The positive thread was created as a light hearted thread for those that wanted to believe the takeover goes ahead, for things like weird twitter links, for reading into de marcos bread tweets etc. Whats happened is that this forum couldn't handle that and the bit of your comment in bold highlights the very issue. The people in thread don't want to be engage with possible of failure of the takeover, that is what this thread is for. The positive thread is as its title suggests - for positive comments! 8 months later and we are still having this misunderstanding. Just admit it, you and others can't resist but to go in and fish for a reaction! The problem is they begged people to leave them to their positive thread and when we actually left them too it they jump in here and argue the same points they weren’t happy about in the positive thread. There hasn’t been a post in the positive thread for 3 days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, manorpark said: It's always a bonus when someone agrees with you, no matter how flawed their reasoning might be Clap away. Me, I am just an NUFC fan who wants the best for his club, as I always have, and presently that "best" is very, very, exciting! we all want the best for NUFC. Surely that we can agree on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, gdm said: Yeah it’s not all in that thread but What I’ve noticed they moaned constantly about people going in that thread and posting non positive posts then when they got what they wanted and now that thread is quiet they jump in this one. Just merge the two threads The currently called "positive" thread is the "logical and realistic" thread, based on all availble knowledge. Some of the negative conclusions people come to are not realistic at all, but their thinking (if that's what it is) is "mind-blowingly" creative in how they add 2 and 2 together and make Minus 4" out of it. Mind-blowing. Just rename the (so-called) Positive Thread the "Realistic, Logical and Common Sense" Thread, then merge to other one INTO it, so it can be absorbed by it. Common sense prevails . . . and then we can all look forward together to the exciting future for NUFC. Give it a try! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpeth mag Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 1 hour ago, gdm said: So fuckin tiresome. arbitration will be a yes or a no that’s 50/50. Are you being deliberately daft? I may get struck down by lightening today. Or I may not. Two outcomes but I bet the chance of me being alive Friday is better than 50/50. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, gdm said: You can’t discuss an actual point properly. You either ignore it or post the same nonsense you always post. This is a recording, this is a recording. Why do you do that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweMag Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, gdm said: I’ve seen articles and mentioned in reporters tweets. Forum favourite Ben Jacobs has repeatedly said it. It’s all propaganda bullshit on both sides. Either side can be as confident as they like. What it comes down to is arbitration & the actual facts and evidence presented. Ignore all the noise about look who we’ve got on our team etc it’s largely irrelevant Feel free to post it then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Just now, morpeth mag said: I may get struck down by lightening today. Or I may not. Two outcomes but I bet the chance of me being alive Friday is better than 50/50. That fact is totally and utterly beyond some people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 22 minutes ago, SweMag said: I absolutely doubt that. Anyone who thinks Ben Jacobs and Luke Edwards are top of the ”ITK list” regarding the takeover are either a troll or has mental issues. Not sure I’ve ever said that. What I have said is they have much better sources than most people. In addition to the fact they were the two reporters who highlighted the issues with the takeover last summer, before anyone else knew. I’ve also said as they are both more on the negative side (in terms of thinking it’ll go through), if they were to change that opinion it’d certainly be worth listening to as they must’ve heard something substantial to change it. If you’re incredibly wrong about my take on that, I suppose you’ve got no hope of understanding what I’d like to see happen. PS - mental health issues aren’t something to make light of. It makes you look a bit of an idiot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Just now, manorpark said: The currently called "positive" thread is the "logical and realistic" thread, based on all availble knowledge. Some of the negative conclusions people come to are not realistic at all, but their thinking (if that's what it is) is "mind-blowingly" creative in how they add 2 and 2 together and make Minus 4" out of it. Mind-blowing. Just rename the (so-called) Positive Thread the "Realistic, Logical and Common Sense" Thread, then merge to other one INTO it, so it can be absorbed by it. Common sense prevails . . . and then we can all look forward together to the exciting future for NUFC. Give it a try! Nothing you say is based on facts or knowledge. It’s blind hope dressed up as realistic positivity it’s tiring. I’ll say it one last time you have no clue about the arbitration case, what evidence or arguments either side will present. Neither do I. I will wait and see what the outcome is while being hopeful I’m fully aware we might lose. You are just guessing we will win and sticking to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, Awaymag said: The positive thread was created as a light hearted thread for those that wanted to believe the takeover goes ahead, for things like weird twitter links, for reading into de marcos bread tweets etc. Whats happened is that this forum couldn't handle that and the bit of your comment in bold highlights the very issue. The people in thread don't want to be engage with possible of failure of the takeover, that is what this thread is for. The positive thread is as its title suggests - for positive comments! 8 months later and we are still having this misunderstanding. Just admit it, you and others can't resist but to go in and fish for a reaction! Erm what? I have said quite clearly that the very thing I am doing - in the post you literally quoted - is resisting going in and fishing for a reaction. You quoted me saying that. Did you read it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishops Finger Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 1 minute ago, gdm said: The problem is they begged people to leave them to their positive thread and when we actually left them too it they jump in here and argue the same points they weren’t happy about in the positive thread. There hasn’t been a post in the positive thread for 3 days. But the whole point of creating the positive thread was because this thread was getting totally negative. This tread isn't isn't just for negative posts. It's for any. Why do people keep telling manorpark to post in his own thread. He can still post positive stuff here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, morpeth mag said: I may get struck down by lightening today. Or I may not. Two outcomes but I bet the chance of me being alive Friday is better than 50/50. wow. Did you really use than ads an argument things we know will dictate your conclusion there such as facts that like weather reports and how statically likely and unlikely people are to be hit with lightening. you have no such facts or knowledge to base your opinion of arbitration on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, manorpark said: This is a recording, this is a recording. Why do you do that? Nothing but a troll who only posts in two threads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, morpeth mag said: I may get struck down by lightening today. Or I may not. Two outcomes but I bet the chance of me being alive Friday is better than 50/50. I know you're not quoting me, but I did address the 50/50 thing. Mathematically you can - indeed MUST - say something is 50/50 when you need to do an estimate on something where you have no information to base a decision with 2 possible outcomes. That is the case with the takeover. We're not laywers, we haven't seen either side's evidence, we haven't been involved or talked to anyone related to this. The scraps we have do not lead us with any conviction to side with either possible outcome, and to suggest otherwise is delusion. We also do not have any previous similar legal cases on which to look at and see what a similar case might yield this time. Therefore 50/50 is the right stance to take. Being struck by lightning is a ridiculous analogy to this because literally none of the above applies. We have an absolutely massive amount of evidence of how likely anyone is to be struck by lightning between now and Friday based on the accumulated experiences of billions of people over billions of years, so we can form a very accurate statistical likelihood of it happening. In short, stop talking shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, gdm said: The problem is they begged people to leave them to their positive thread and when we actually left them too it they jump in here and argue the same points they weren’t happy about in the positive thread. There hasn’t been a post in the positive thread for 3 days. I'll go back to the positive board if you, FB, Joelinton stay on this board and not come on the positive board - deal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Just now, Awaymag said: I'll go back to the positive board if you, FB, Joelinton stay on this board and not come on the positive board - deal? Suits me. What if I want to post something positive tho? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Chris_R said: Being struck by lightning is a ridiculous analogy to this because literally none of the above applies. We have an absolutely massive amount of evidence of how likely anyone is to be struck by lightning between now and Friday based on the accumulated experiences of billions of people over billions of years, so we can form a very accurate statistical likelihood of it happening. Said it far better then I tried to. Imagine thinking that was a good analogy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 49 minutes ago, gdm said: If they weren’t confident they’d try come up an agreement surely? Something that mutually beneficial If they WERE confident they’d have also come up with a decision to just say no last year. But yet again, they seem to be trying to drag things out at any opportunity. Just like last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 1 minute ago, TheHoob said: Edwards knew and knows fuck all man, the bloke is just a relentless fucking joy-leech. We've done this a million times but trying to say that Edwards was/is better informed than someone Caulkin is laughable. Caulkin was sold down the river last summer by Staveley and looked a bit silly by the end of it. Edwards did know about the collapse last summer, that’s not disputable. His general journalism is complete bollocks, but he got that right. My point (repeated again because you’ve clearly not listened), is that Edwards and Jacobs have PL sources and have maintained a fairly negative opinion throughout. If those people become positive, it’s highly likely to be good news. Listening to them is therefore more worthwhile than someone like Kennedy, who has relentlessly listened to the same people who have been positive throughout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Just now, Manxst said: If they WERE confident they’d have also come up with a decision to just say no last year. But yet again, they seem to be trying to drag things out at any opportunity. Just like last year. Fair point but just adds to my point that we don’t really know it’s just theories at the end of day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweMag Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Not sure I’ve ever said that. What I have said is they have much better sources than most people. In addition to the fact they were the two reporters who highlighted the issues with the takeover last summer, before anyone else knew. I’ve also said as they are both more on the negative side (in terms of thinking it’ll go through), if they were to change that opinion it’d certainly be worth listening to as they must’ve heard something substantial to change it. If you’re incredibly wrong about my take on that, I suppose you’ve got no hope of understanding what I’d like to see happen. PS - mental health issues aren’t something to make light of. It makes you look a bit of an idiot. Yes that’s exactly what you said. You also said Luke Edwards has been the most accurate journo regarding the Saudi deal from day one and that he was ”sold down the river” by the Mike Ashley camp regarding Mauriss... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Got excited when I saw 5 new pages in just over an hour. Ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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