GeordieT Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 On 30/11/2022 at 19:20, Keegans Export said: Would be interesting to know whether the figures being thrown about (£20m/year) are accurate or not...? Very late response here - didn’t know the answer at the time of the initial post. But yes - what’s been described in the press is correct c. £20m p.a. Just the shirt. It’s not a stadium naming / training ground / broader package as had been suggested elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 hour ago, GeordieT said: Very late response here - didn’t know the answer at the time of the initial post. But yes - what’s been described in the press is correct c. £20m p.a. Just the shirt. It’s not a stadium naming / training ground / broader package as had been suggested elsewhere. Gonna tell us the company now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, The Prophet said: They might have an argument under competition law but it should be laughed out of court as its blatently a money making scheme for the big clubs. Plus, if UEFA are deemed to be running a monopoly, then surely the same applies to FIFA, the FA, the PL and every single other ruling body across every single country and continent. And then theres other sports...it would result in chaos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 I think there have already been similar cases in other sports that have been found to be anti-competitive IIRC. But I don't think that will necessarily change anything in relation to the ESL. It collapsed because our government said they would bring in legislation to prevent English clubs from joining (which essentially acknowledged that the rules as they are wouldn't be likely to stand up to challenge) and it's not going to be viable without the English clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 https://www.themag.co.uk/2022/12/saudi-arabia-pif-could-now-dispose-of-newcastle-united-and-buy-manchester-united-new-report/ How long has The Mag been full of shit for now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 I think it's just about exclusively clickbait these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 22 hours ago, et tu brute said: Fucking hell is the topic of Adam P still being discussed on here Aye, give him his own thread since many seem to follow him as fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 36 minutes ago, Lazarus said: They might have an argument under competition law but it should be laughed out of court as its blatently a money making scheme for the big clubs. Plus, if UEFA are deemed to be running a monopoly, then surely the same applies to FIFA, the FA, the PL and every single other ruling body across every single country and continent. And then theres other sports...it would result in chaos. Yeah, can see them winning the initial decision and being granted a legal mandate. They're still going to meet the same resistance the first try did though. The English teams are never going to be able to join, and without them the value of a 'Super League' drops drastically. There's a reason why the American owners of Man U and Liverpool are now looking for a way out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Let's just say they did. Theyd have to sell the club 1st and as we've seen that can take nearly 2 years. Of course the PL would waive through our sale to any old cunt without a thought, but for them to buy one of the big guys without upsetting the rest, it's easier to kick it down the road like they did with us, and they would use our sale as a way to do it. Manure and Liverpool are running scared. They know the Saudis aren't messing around and their biggest fear is they've got competent staff in to run the show and spent the money. It's their worst nightmare and it could quite easily be made worse if anyone else wants to challenge. Villa have the backing financially, probably aren't as smart as we are behind the scenes, but they could easily establish themselves 5-6th and with us that could push a lame duck like manure out of Europe all together. The glazers are Ashley on steroids. Theyll make a fortune and rid themselves of all the hassle. It'll be interesting to see who owns them next, same with Liverpool, but these clubs are high maintenance and whoever comes in needs unlimited cash to keep up with citeh and possibly another if both clubs are sold to high level investors. You could.ve buying a club for 4bn, spending 2bn over 5 years, win nothing and only finish 3rd. Spend a bn in total on us and finish 3rd and its a massive success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 3 hours ago, The Prophet said: Hope they win and in response uefa remove the shackles of ffp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Dokko said: Hope they win and in response uefa remove the shackles of ffp. I’m surprised FFP hasn’t been legally challenged tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Dokko said: Let's just say they did. Theyd have to sell the club 1st and as we've seen that can take nearly 2 years. Of course the PL would waive through our sale to any old cunt without a thought, but for them to buy one of the big guys without upsetting the rest, it's easier to kick it down the road like they did with us, and they would use our sale as a way to do it. Manure and Liverpool are running scared. They know the Saudis aren't messing around and their biggest fear is they've got competent staff in to run the show and spent the money. It's their worst nightmare and it could quite easily be made worse if anyone else wants to challenge. Villa have the backing financially, probably aren't as smart as we are behind the scenes, but they could easily establish themselves 5-6th and with us that could push a lame duck like manure out of Europe all together. The glazers are Ashley on steroids. Theyll make a fortune and rid themselves of all the hassle. It'll be interesting to see who owns them next, same with Liverpool, but these clubs are high maintenance and whoever comes in needs unlimited cash to keep up with citeh and possibly another if both clubs are sold to high level investors. You could.ve buying a club for 4bn, spending 2bn over 5 years, win nothing and only finish 3rd. Spend a bn in total on us and finish 3rd and its a massive success. Being devil's advocate, couldn't they just hand their share over to the Reubens and PCP if they wanted a quick exit? If the really did want Man U the amount they would be writing off would be peanuts compared to the cost of buying Man U. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 6 hours ago, Jack27 said: Gonna tell us the company now? I quite value gainful employment thank you very much! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 25 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: Being devil's advocate, couldn't they just hand their share over to the Reubens and PCP if they wanted a quick exit? If the really did want Man U the amount they would be writing off would be peanuts compared to the cost of buying Man U. I mean I'm happy with that. The money would be great, but I think AS backed with RB cash could take us far enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 43 minutes ago, Dokko said: I mean I'm happy with that. The money would be great, but I think AS backed with RB cash could take us far enough. It's not going to happen. For a start the Reuben's are not interested in being full owners (they're in it for the expansion/improvements) and PCP do not have the money to invest into the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 I think the Reubens are rich in assets rather than cash too so they aren't really in a position to pump a load of money in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 The position we're in now we could easily be a self-sustaining top half club if PIF walked, no need for a load more money being pumped in. Not that I think that's likely to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 9 hours ago, Jackie Broon said: The position we're in now we could easily be a self-sustaining top half club if PIF walked, no need for a load more money being pumped in. Not that I think that's likely to happen. Eh? Not sure how you've came to that conclusion given the turnover, or lack of, and amount PIF have had to put in just to start the ball rolling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 They have been in charge for only 1 year, why the fuck are people talking about if they leave ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, reefatoon said: They have been in charge for only 1 year, why the fuck are people talking about if they leave ? Because as newcastle fans.. we need something to worry about ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Not sure if this was actually said by him but found this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danny Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 21 minutes ago, Scotty66 said: Not sure if this was actually said by him but found this. Seems like the obvious, buy chelsea/manure for 3-5 bil or nufc for 305/350 mil invest another few hundred mil and they are where they/we would want to be I would say it was said, mainly because its coherent. most of the bs that comes out make my eyes bleed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, danny said: Seems like the obvious, buy chelsea/manure for 3-5 bil or nufc for 305/350 mil invest another few hundred mil and they are where they/we would want to be I would say it was said, mainly because its coherent. most of the bs that comes out make my eyes bleed Seems like Man Utd are being marketed for between 6-7 billion, mind boggles why you would spend that much on a football club as an investment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, Jack27 said: Seems like Man Utd are being marketed for between 6-7 billion, mind boggles why you would spend that much on a football club as an investment Yeah at that price its not really an investment. More a status symbol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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