Geordie Boyo Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I take it you’ll be stood outside the women’s toilets inspecting genitalia then? Or will someone else be doing that? Sounds like you might be up for it if that’s what comes to mind mate. Let us know how you get on though when you suspect you might get a handful. I think generally the chances are you’re not gonna get people walking in looking like the ladyboys of Bangkok where women may feel intimidated. It’s a fair enough opinion to voice I feel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Geordie Boyo said: Sounds like you might be up for it if that’s what comes to mind mate. Let us know how you get on though when you suspect you might get a handful. I think generally the chances are you’re not gonna get people walking in looking like the ladyboys of Bangkok where women may feel intimidated. It’s a fair enough opinion to voice I feel. Absolutely pathetic. The point was of course that lots of trans women ‘pass’, and lots of cis women have masculine features. So who is policing the toilets? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Absolutely pathetic. The point was of course that lots of trans women ‘pass’, and lots of cis women have masculine features. So who is policing the toilets? Ok, so you feel strong enough in your opinion that this shouldn’t be an issue to women, they’re being pathetic and should just get on with it? There’s never been any policing of who goes in what toilet. It’s just generally a debate or concern that’s been raised on social media. Unless you’re female you can’t necessarily call them out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, Geordie Boyo said: Ok, so you feel strong enough in your opinion that this shouldn’t be an issue to women, they’re being pathetic and should just get on with it? There’s never been any policing of who goes in what toilet. It’s just generally a debate or concern that’s been raised on social media. Unless you’re female you can’t necessarily call them out. The problem is that saying that trans women can’t enter women’s toilets requires policing of some sort - just say it is legislated against. Who is going to enforce it? Who is really going to approach a woman about to enter a toilet cubicle and say ‘hey, I think you might have a penis’? I assume the fear that some women have is that of sexual assault. But how many recorded examples of this are there? And raping someone in a public place seems pretty risky. Being fearful is not a good enough reason to hold a prejudice against an entire group of people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 By this token no men should be barred from women's toilets? Incidentally, a game is being played that they're hard to spot here. The idea that you just can't tell without a full anatomical examination is preposterous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 53 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: The problem is that saying that trans women can’t enter women’s toilets requires policing of some sort - just say it is legislated against. Who is going to enforce it? Who is really going to approach a woman about to enter a toilet cubicle and say ‘hey, I think you might have a penis’? I assume the fear that some women have is that of sexual assault. But how many recorded examples of this are there? And raping someone in a public place seems pretty risky. Being fearful is not a good enough reason to hold a prejudice against an entire group of people. Also, a rapist is hardly going to be put off going into that female toilet because that's against the law. I'd imagine that the chances of a trans woman being raped in a men's toilet are far higher (even accounting for the significantly higher risk of sexual violence and murder trans people are at anyway). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Superior Acuña Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 I mean, to return to what caused all this, would it be good to ban all the people debating the merits of 'from the river to the sea' in the Israel/Palestine thread from the ground? Because suddenly that sounds like a plausible event. This is an NUFC relevant conversation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Turnbull2000 said: Well, you think wrong You do you fella, I think I’ll allow the majority of women, including trans women to speak on that. I think more middle aged men would do well to do the same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Geordie Boyo said: All JK Rowling said that a trans woman shouldn’t be able to use female toilets, etc and just generally that they can’t simply claim to be women having no female organs for a menstrual cycle, possibly falling pregnant. Totally agree with her - it’s one thing to be a trans woman but to actually say you’re female when you’re not…..that was the just of what she’d been talking about. someone who took a disliking to her then reported her to the club. That is not at all what JKR has only said like. That might be what she says she's only saying, but she actually says a lot, lot more than that, almost the the point of not coming up for air. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: That is not at all what JKR has only said like. That might be what she says she's only saying, but she actually says a lot, lot more than that, almost the the point of not coming up for air. This. She's a vile harridan. It's, yet another, culture war and she's more than cheerleading. Women get raped by men dressed as men. If it were only about toilets, and the transgender movement compromised, they could use accessible loos. Problem solved. But it's not about toilets. There's a couple of men dressed as women frequent Manor Walks. Older chaps and big lads. Hands like shovels. I actually admire their bravery, esp given the current climate. Must be fucking torturous trying to fit into a society that won't accept you when all you want to do is live your best life. Not sure about banning fans for what they post on their social media like. Depends on the content and the context. Very much a modern phenomenon. Niall, aged 59, bald, straight, cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Lush lasses thread is canny at the minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Just now, RS said: Lush lasses thread is canny at the minute. They won 9-2, didn't they ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Groundhog63 said: They won 9-2, didn't they ? With a bit of help from sunshine fanny and the best milfs on the planet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Judging by my success rate in the ballots I think I've been bannad as well. Need to review me history on insta ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 All I’ll say is it is a very worrying precedent to set, that you can ban someone from the ground for having an opinion. The irony of course being, an opinion that I’m sure PIF would agree with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 So the lass in question is still being targeted. Its became relentlessly abusive whereas she’s dished no hate other than an opinion as mentioned - the difference is and while I encourage people to have a voice, it gets to a stage where the so-called righteous lot are hypocritically doing what they’re accusing the person in question of. That behaviour definitely seems to be trending across politics to a point where there is no democracy, just a lot of whindgy self-entitled fuckers having a pop at each other. I’ve spent little time on X and what a toxic place it is for it with trolls and that lot. I don’t know what the answers are, but of course everyone deserves to live a life where they aren’t being discriminated against and have the same opportunities & rights. It’s the grey areas that are being discussed and they’re obviously sensitive areas. I do actually agree with what you’re saying - I’m just also mindful of what has been expressed by women in this case. Thing is with JK Rollowling, she obviously stands by her opinion and tells anyone to get fucked if they target her from what I’ve seen, which I think is fair enough as opposed to apology-gate, let’s be professional about it, etc. There hasn’t been anything of direct hate towards the trans community from what I’ve seen from her unless someone wants to give an example? Anyways as mentioned this thread isn’t the place for it - As far as the football side of things go with the club - I do think it’s wrong she’s currently banned and her being targeted needs to stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Still don't know who the women is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 What a fucking mess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
500bhp Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 What the fuck did she actually say for all this to happen? It can't have only been those quotes a few pages up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, jack j said: Still don't know who the women is? She’s a season ticket holder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Geordie Boyo said: She’s a season ticket holder. That narrows it down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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