ToonArmy1892 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) Shelvey could be fucking Pirlo on the ball but he is that lazy off it it still wouldn't matter, you simply can't carry people in centre midfield, wing or upfront you possibly can but not in the engine room. In anycase, the best passers like Pirlo and Xavi still worked hard off the ball and covered loads of ground. Fuck this bloke, he sums up the club. Edited August 17, 2021 by ToonArmy1892 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 7 hours ago, joeyt said: Mad that no one thought it was a penalty yet VAR didn't ask the ref to look at it On my coverage I remember VAR being used but it came as a “call from the booth” not him having to run over and look or anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 On 16/08/2021 at 15:28, Away Toon said: Kneeling is an act of submission not sure it's sending the right message about racism, Zaha certainly doesn't think so. I'd be all in favour of the black players doing a black power salute before the game that would rile up the racist wankers among our and Burnley's supporters. think people forget that it was initially done as a protest to standing during the US national anthem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, huss9 said: think people forget that it was initially done as a protest to standing during the US national anthem Isn't it specifically linked to (American) football because taking a knee in a game has meaning in that game? A QB will kneel before he gets sacked as a tactical move, and drawing a political symbol from that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Raconteur said: Isn't it specifically linked to (American) football because taking a knee in a game has meaning in that game? A QB will kneel before he gets sacked as a tactical move, and drawing a political symbol from that? Wasn't it more a case of doing the exact opposite of standing for the national anthem? As in, fuck standing, I'm going to kneel instead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Just now, midds said: Wasn't it more a case of doing the exact opposite of standing for the national anthem? As in, fuck standing, I'm going to kneel instead? I'm not sure, but I remember someone trying to explain it to me that it's because Colin Kaepernick was a QB and taking a knee had particular meaning via that. Just as likely I was receiving unfiltered bullshit that I accepted uncritically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 On 16/08/2021 at 14:00, ManDoon said: Feel bad for Woodman tbh, that's rough debut, not that he could do anything about the goals. Krafth not blocking that cross when Antonio took the worst first touch ever is wild. Yeah, was hoping for a Krul-like debut to give him confidence and show he could keep the shirt even when Dubravka is back. No idea if he’ll be back in against Villa but he needs one huge game soon I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 8 hours ago, Raconteur said: I'm not sure, but I remember someone trying to explain it to me that it's because Colin Kaepernick was a QB and taking a knee had particular meaning via that. Just as likely I was receiving unfiltered bullshit that I accepted uncritically. https://www.skysports.com/nfl/news/12118/12170048/colin-kaepernick-how-taking-a-knee-started-after-nfl-quarterback-met-nate-boyer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 1 hour ago, mrmojorisin75 said: https://www.skysports.com/nfl/news/12118/12170048/colin-kaepernick-how-taking-a-knee-started-after-nfl-quarterback-met-nate-boyer But Marxism! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 9 hours ago, Raconteur said: Isn't it specifically linked to (American) football because taking a knee in a game has meaning in that game? A QB will kneel before he gets sacked as a tactical move, and drawing a political symbol from that? Yes. Taking a knee is an American football term. I've only heard of it as a way to run down the clock, but I guess a QB could chicken out of a sacking.. But yes, taking a knee during the national anthem [sung at every game I believe] is an effective protest against institutionalised racism in the US. Taking the knee, as part of the schedule after singing your heart out to the national anthem, seems to ignore that. Still, like I say, it has been provocative enough to be somewhat effective at outing arseholes. Meanwhile Prince Andrew is still a free man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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