Guest Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 19/10/2021 at 11:21, Joey47 said: He also managed them while they slowly fell apart. Expand A club like that are always going to go down again at some point. Let’s not forget they were a broken goal line technology away from sending Aston Villa down that season as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 19/10/2021 at 11:22, Dokko said: Aye Lambert and Wilder did what Howe did on a fraction of the budget. Let’s get them in. Expand Lambert was awful, Wilder had one good season. Howe sustained it for 5 years while consistently on the lowest budget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Paul Lambert is maybe the only manager out there who's as bad as Steve Bruce is at this level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 19/10/2021 at 11:22, Dokko said: Aye Lambert and Wilder did what Howe did on a fraction of the budget. Let’s get them in. Expand Not with clubs the size of Bournemouth they didn't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 19/10/2021 at 11:25, Optimistic Nut said: Lambert was awful, Wilder had one good season. Howe sustained it for 5 years while consistently on the lowest budget. Expand Low budget? You mad. He spent a small fortune with big wages and had some very expensive flops to his name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 19/10/2021 at 11:25, joeyt said: Not with clubs the size of Bournemouth they didn't Expand Which was more to do with their overspending than the man in charge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 19/10/2021 at 11:25, joeyt said: Not with clubs the size of Bournemouth they didn't Expand But at the same time, we’re an infinitely bigger club than Bournemouth. Instilling an inferiority complex about every team being bigger and better than us, and fighting against them to form a team ethic isn’t going to work here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Talking about the likes of Conte and Zidane last week and here we are now talking about Howe and Rooney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 19/10/2021 at 11:27, Dokko said: Which was more to do with their overspending than the man in charge. Expand nonsense. He kept a team in the Premier League for 5 seasons, a club who had never in their history been above Division 2/League 1 before he joined I don't particularly want Howe but give the bloke some credit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) £200m Howe spent to keep Bournemouth in the PL. no idea how he managed it. Fair play. For balance he brought in £70m in that time. Edited October 19, 2021 by Dokko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Taking a League Two team to five consecutive season in the Premier League is a ridiculous achievement like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 19/10/2021 at 11:30, Sima said: Talking about the likes of Conte and Zidane last week and here we are now talking about Howe and Rooney Expand Its almost like keeping Bruce on is helping lower expectations by starving already hungry fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 19/10/2021 at 11:33, Dokko said: £200m Howe spent to keep Bournemouth in the PL. no idea how he managed it. Fair play. Expand That's what circa £40 million season on average? I agree he made some awful buys, but overall he did a fair job. I don't think he'll be in contention so we don't need to worry about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 19/10/2021 at 11:36, Dokko said: Its almost like keeping Bruce on is helping lower expectations by starving already hungry fans. Expand The media are driving the speculation, not the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 19/10/2021 at 11:35, The Prophet said: Taking a League Two team to five consecutive season in the Premier League is a ridiculous achievement like. Expand just the £80m spend in 2 championship seasons. However did he do it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Pilgrim Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 19/10/2021 at 11:36, The Prophet said: That's what circa £40 million season on average? I agree he made some awful buys, but overall he did a fair job. I don't think he'll be in contention so we don't need to worry about it. Expand It was 40m on shite Liverpool no hopers, makes me ill when I think about Solanke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 So many teams gamble promotion in the Championship and fail like Derby, Villa almost went bankrupt because of it, QPR overspent and haven't challenged until quite recently, Sheffield Wednesday were one final away. Would be happy with Howe here, he's an improvement on what we have and can have a tactics discussion to show his knowledge of the sport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 19/10/2021 at 11:36, The Prophet said: That's what circa £40 million season on average? I agree he made some awful buys, but overall he did a fair job. I don't think he'll be in contention so we don't need to worry about it. Expand hopefully not but I’d just like to add of the hidden cost of wages isn’t on display here. I doubt their few k of fans covered the wages of all these signings. Bournemouth grew substantially as they had financial backing, not down to savvy management. They lasted longer in the prem for the same reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 19/10/2021 at 11:38, Billy Pilgrim said: It was 40m on shite Liverpool no hopers, makes me ill when I think about Solanke Expand And ibe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Hang on, so you're saying on the one hand he was only successful because he had loads of money, but on the other hand he wasted what money he had with dud buys? That doesn't add up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Paul Lambert. God, imagine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 We need money spent to buy a manager, not players. A decent manager would keep this side up without spending big in January Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Tino11 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 If we're bringing in a DOF surely he wouldn't be getting access to the chequebook anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Paul Lambert looked like he could go on to be a good manager when he was at Wycombe Wanderers. Unfortunately he has gone consistently downhill since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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