Geogaddi Posted Thursday at 17:28 Share Posted Thursday at 17:28 On 13/03/2025 at 17:22, TRon said: You could argue that tactically Iraola has got the better of Howe this season, one of the games I thought we were comprehensively outplayed, and by a team with less resources. But that was one match, and despite them having a great season, we don't know how he will pan out long term. Regardless, tactics aren't everything either, Howe is also a great fit for Newcastle in that he feels the city in his bones. You won't get that with many managers, and probably why Rafa was so loved while he was here as well. Expand You could also argue Iraola has been able to spend money and improve his squad over the last couple of years. It's going to be two years this summer since we last strengthened the squad , yet we are still in the top 6 and above Iraola. I would bet Bournemouth wouldn't be in a similar position to now in two years time if they made no signings during that period . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted Thursday at 17:41 Share Posted Thursday at 17:41 Iraola's spent a fraction of what Howe's spent lets be realistic now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted Thursday at 17:49 Share Posted Thursday at 17:49 On 13/03/2025 at 17:22, TRon said: You could argue that tactically Iraola has got the better of Howe this season, one of the games I thought we were comprehensively outplayed, and by a team with less resources. But that was one match, and despite them having a great season, we don't know how he will pan out long term. Regardless, tactics aren't everything either, Howe is also a great fit for Newcastle in that he feels the city in his bones. You won't get that with many managers, and probably why Rafa was so loved while he was here as well. Expand Iraola is on an upwards trajectory but he’s not like a post Dortmund Klopp. He’s not achieved anything Howe hasn’t. Likewise we aren’t such a big step/opportunity given PSR. Not saying there won’t be reasons Howe might get fired/leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted Thursday at 18:16 Share Posted Thursday at 18:16 (edited) On 13/03/2025 at 17:41, Menace said: Iraola's spent a fraction of what Howe's spent lets be realistic now Expand Since Iraola joined Bournemouth he's had a net spend of ~ÂŁ200m on transfers while Eddie has ~ÂŁ80m (going by transfermarkt numbers) in the same period. Edited Thursday at 18:16 by Conjo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted Thursday at 18:32 Share Posted Thursday at 18:32 (edited) On 13/03/2025 at 17:22, TRon said: You could argue that tactically Iraola has got the better of Howe this season, one of the games I thought we were comprehensively outplayed, and by a team with less resources. But that was one match, and despite them having a great season, we don't know how he will pan out long term. Regardless, tactics aren't everything either, Howe is also a great fit for Newcastle in that he feels the city in his bones. You won't get that with many managers, and probably why Rafa was so loved while he was here as well. Expand Bournemouth fans think Howe is a club legend, but you won’t find many who think he is a better manager than Iraola. Edited Thursday at 18:34 by Matt1892 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Thursday at 18:37 Share Posted Thursday at 18:37 On 13/03/2025 at 18:32, Matt1892 said: Bournemouth fans think Howe is a club legend, but you won’t find many who think he is a better manager than Iraola. Expand He’s done brilliantly, but needs to do it for more than one season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted Thursday at 18:46 Share Posted Thursday at 18:46 On 13/03/2025 at 18:32, Matt1892 said: Bournemouth fans think Howe is a club legend, but you won’t find many who think he is a better manager than Iraola. Expand Jesus Christ. As if this proves anything. People have gold fish memories. Once he hits a rough patch, there will be the goateed version of you on a Bournemouth forum calling for an upgrade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted Thursday at 18:47 Share Posted Thursday at 18:47 On 13/03/2025 at 18:37, SUPERTOON said: He’s done brilliantly, but needs to do it for more than one season. Expand He delivered them their highest ever Premier League points total last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Thursday at 18:48 Share Posted Thursday at 18:48 On 13/03/2025 at 18:47, Matt1892 said: He delivered them their highest ever Premier League points total last season. Expand He also has their worst ever start to a season as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted Thursday at 18:50 Share Posted Thursday at 18:50 On 13/03/2025 at 18:48, SUPERTOON said: He also has their worst ever start to a season as well. Expand Which makes what he has done even more impressive. He came in, had a squad of players that were used to playing an awful style of football and had to coach them to play the style he wanted. They now play some of the most entertaining football in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Thursday at 18:51 Share Posted Thursday at 18:51 On 13/03/2025 at 18:50, Matt1892 said: Which makes what he has done even more impressive. He came in, had a squad of players that were used to playing an awful style of football and had to coach them to play the style he wanted. They now play some of the most entertaining football in the league. Expand You do realise this is exactly what Howe has done here don’t you? From a worst starting point as well ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted Thursday at 18:53 Share Posted Thursday at 18:53 The Howe Bournemouth had isn't the same Howe we have. He's a better manager now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lish007 Posted Thursday at 18:56 Share Posted Thursday at 18:56 On 13/03/2025 at 18:51, SUPERTOON said: You do realise this is exactly what Howe has done here don’t you? From a worst starting point as well ? Expand Exactly. When managers work out how Bournemouth play and start respecting them, they will struggle just like us. It's hard to become a top team. Not sure why we have to compare managers - there are many good ones!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted Thursday at 18:57 Share Posted Thursday at 18:57 On 13/03/2025 at 18:51, SUPERTOON said: You do realise this is exactly what Howe has done here don’t you? From a worst starting point as well ? Expand It was great while it lasted but we have regressed massively as a team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted Thursday at 18:58 Share Posted Thursday at 18:58 On 13/03/2025 at 18:57, Matt1892 said: It was great while it lasted but we have regressed massively as a team. Expand And yet we are in a cup final, and on the exact same points as the season we finished 4th. All this whilst not spending for nearly 2 years. Keep hating on Howe though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted Thursday at 18:59 Share Posted Thursday at 18:59 (edited) Iraola is standing on the shoulders of giants and those giants are Howe and Tindall. He's not even there without them because they wouldn't have had any investment. These digs at Howe are getting easier and easier to poke holes in. Edited Thursday at 18:59 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted Thursday at 19:00 Share Posted Thursday at 19:00 On 13/03/2025 at 18:59, Kid Icarus said: Iraola is standing on the shoulders of giants and those giants are Howe and Tindall. He's not even there without them because they wouldn't have had any investment. These digs at Howe are getting easier and easier to poke holes in. Expand Howe and Tindall got them relegated ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted Thursday at 19:01 Share Posted Thursday at 19:01 On 13/03/2025 at 18:57, Matt1892 said: It was great while it lasted but we have regressed massively as a team. Expand Where's your critical thinking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted Thursday at 19:15 Share Posted Thursday at 19:15 On 13/03/2025 at 19:01, Kid Icarus said: Where's your critical thinking Expand Don't even need the word critical in there tbh. No thoughts, only entitlement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted Thursday at 19:16 Share Posted Thursday at 19:16 (edited) On 13/03/2025 at 19:00, Matt1892 said: Howe and Tindall got them relegated ffs. Expand Are you saying that knowing who Bournemouth were before Howe was their manager? They spent the majority of their first 100 years in the 4th and 5th tiers of English football. Their highest ever finish was 7th in League One. It would be like a manager now getting a team like Carlisle from the bottom of League 2 to 9th in the Premier League, keeping them there for 5 years then criticising the relegation while lauding the manager who got the fruits of their labour. I would hope you realise how utterly ignorant or entitled that would look. Edited Thursday at 19:20 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Thursday at 19:20 Share Posted Thursday at 19:20 On 13/03/2025 at 18:32, Matt1892 said: Bournemouth fans think Howe is a club legend, but you won’t find many who think he is a better manager than Iraola. Expand I think he's a great manager, and is destined to go on to be a top one, but he does have to prove it over more than one season. Plus, being a great manager doesn't necessarily mean he'd be the right manager for us. Would he stay if Man U came calling after one season of success at Newcastle? You know Howe isn't going anywhere unless he feels he's not being backed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted Thursday at 19:21 Share Posted Thursday at 19:21 Why didn't Eddie just establish a 1000 year PL-winning reich with Bournemouth, is he stupid? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted Thursday at 19:22 Share Posted Thursday at 19:22 On 13/03/2025 at 19:00, Matt1892 said: Howe and Tindall got them relegated ffs. Expand You need to remind yourself of where Bournemouth were when Howe took over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted Thursday at 19:22 Share Posted Thursday at 19:22 On 13/03/2025 at 19:00, Matt1892 said: Howe and Tindall got them relegated ffs. Expand I'm from Dorset. When I was growing up, Bournemouth were about as big as Hartlepool. Then Eddie Howe took over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted Thursday at 19:23 Share Posted Thursday at 19:23 On 13/03/2025 at 19:20, TRon said: I think he's a great manager, and is destined to go on to be a top one, but he does have to prove it over more than one season. Plus, being a great manager doesn't necessarily mean he'd be the right manager for us. Would he stay if Man U came calling after one season of success at Newcastle? You know Howe isn't going anywhere unless he feels he's not being backed. Expand I don’t think we will find out, because I don’t see a top club coming in for Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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