Billy Pilgrim Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Just now, InspectorCoarse said: That doesnt stop interested managers dropping hints in the media - so far it would seem - nothing Giroud was plugging lampard the other day and there have been fifty billion quantum articles written linking just about every plausible person under the sun. I really get the desire to sack Bruce and get someone in as soon as possible but people are losing their minds already and nothing has happened. Ashley has given us PTSD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, InspectorCoarse said: Starting to get concerned that no one wants the job . Surely the media should be full of managers dropping hints at the very least ? At the minute theres a weird silence This is the new thing to W A I T for, it really is! We will need a sensible period with Jones as Caretaker Manager to find the very "best Director of Football" in the world (the best name is already being regularly mentioned for this) THEN, between him and the Board, to find the "best Manager in the world". Our new owners will only ever want 'worlds best' (or as near as they can get to that) for everything, and this takes T I M E, I would imagine, quite a lot of very careful time! Edited October 14, 2021 by manorpark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, InspectorCoarse said: Starting to get concerned that no one wants the job . Surely the media should be full of managers dropping hints at the very least ? At the minute theres a weird silence Course not man, soon as Bruce is peddled you won't get moved online for hints of managers wanting it. Also, look how the takeover (towards the end) was kept under wraps. Appreciate they were apparently forced to do it fast, but Downie said yesterday he got wind 5 weeks ago it could be on the cards and nothing leaked. Got no doubt at all it just happened so fast that they've barely had time to breathe yet, but also no doubt the consortium have had agents touting their clients for the job. Still think they'll want a simultaneous announcement. Bruce out and either Jones for a bit (if he fancies it) or their new man announced within a day or 2 of Bruce going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Might as well fold the club. Neebody wants da job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InspectorCoarse Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 13 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: If as the hope article suggest we aren’t going to be going for any prem managers in a job currently then we can also rule out potter. Who does that leave ? Lampard ? Howe ? Not much of a list tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 If we’re hiring a proper sporting director then he’s not going to limit us to UK based managers or whoever the media says are the favourites. There are quite a few managers out there that have good records and are out of a job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saudi Geordie Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 14 hours ago, Thumbheed said: Jorge Jesus has always intruiged me. What's he upto nowadays? Surely he'd fancy a bash in the PL? EDIT: Interestingly had a spell at Al-Hilal in KSA... Good catch! Jesus had a very successful (short) run at Al Hilal in Saudi Arabia. I do think he is a very good manager, but I prefer someone with experience in PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InspectorCoarse Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Kimbo said: If we’re hiring a proper sporting director then he’s not going to limit us to UK based managers or whoever the media says are the favourites. There are quite a few managers out there that have good records and are out of a job. Can you name them please ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamakazeee Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Favre is the most obvious choice. He's a brilliant man manager, tactically very versatile and has done the job/journey we need to go on over next few years in 2 of his previous 3 jobs. (and done it well). He's took the job at Gladbach in a relegation fight and had them in the champions league in 2 years. I also think a quiet, dignified and unassuming manager over the next few years might be just what we need, especially considering how much noise there will be off the pitch. Also, the ASM story is red herring imo, ASM played 38 times in that season they had together., whilst also producing his best numbers, 5 goals and 8 assists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 I wouldn't say they need to be out of job, we're not operating under Big Mike anymore. On a side note, the idea that there are no good, quality options out there because a couple of geezers on an internet forum can't think of any is great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, InspectorCoarse said: Can you name them please ? I’ll have a go at naming some. Jorge Jesus from the previous page is an excellent shout. But also Roger Schmidt especially if Rangnik becomes DOF, Ten Haag, Gasperini though that might be a bit ambitious at this stage. Galtieri if he would come after just accepting a new job offer not that long ago. AVB, Jardim especially if Campos comes in instead of Rangnik. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Pilgrim Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Didn’t Jesus knock us out of the uefa cup under Pardew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Yes. And did so playing Beautiful football. Defence was a bit all own like but it was fun to watch and he’s been successful with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Pilgrim Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Just now, Rafalove said: Yes. And did so playing Beautiful football. Defence was a bit all own like but it was fun to watch and he’s been successful with it. That benfica side was littered with football manager fodder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, kamakazeee said: Favre is the most obvious choice. He's a brilliant man manager, tactically very versatile and has done the job/journey we need to go on over next few years in 2 of his previous 3 jobs. (and done it well). He's took the job at Gladbach in a relegation fight and had them in the champions league in 2 years. I also think a quiet, dignified and unassuming manager over the next few years might be just what we need, especially considering how much noise there will be off the pitch. Also, the ASM story is red herring imo, ASM played 38 times in that season they had together., whilst also producing his best numbers, 5 goals and 8 assists. Favre was excellent at Gladbach. He was being spoken in about in the same conversations as Klopp. He developed some excellent youth (Sommer, Xhaka, Kramer, Hazard, Herrmann, etc) and transformed the club into regular Champios League qualifiers, playing some loveky stuff. It just didn't work out for him at Dortmund competing against a very good Bayern outfit, every error was punished. Their defence was unreliable and his in-game management was often questioned. I don't know much about his spell at Nice, but based on his time in Germany we could do a hell of a lot worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Somebody like Rudi Garcia could probably do the job, but probably more risk than anyone would want to take given our situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saudi Geordie Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Conte is a "Hot Head" and he is a perfect candidate to turn this ship around! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamakazeee Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Favre was excellent at Gladbach. He was being spoken in about in the same conversations as Klopp. He developed some excellent youth (Sommer, Xhaka, Kramer, Hazard, Herrmann, etc) and transformed the club into regular Champios League qualifiers, playing some loveky stuff. It just didn't work out for him at Dortmund competing against a very good Bayern outfit, every error was punished. Their defence was unreliable and his in-game management was often questioned. I don't know much about his spell at Nice, but based on his time in Germany we could do a hell of a lot worse. He got Nice to their highest finish and Champions league football and also had Balotelli playing arguably the best football of his career. The thing Favre, he hits a brickwall. He's very good at getting teams overachieving and into European football - which is where largely most of his success has come. He hits a brickwall when it comes to getting teams over the line in terms of winning leagues etc. But, that's not the job we are looking for in the short term, we actually just need Favre to do what he does best, get teams playing good football, develop players and get us moving up the league. Longer term, obviously he could be an issue, but I don't think he's a long term appointment anyway, he's 62/63 now. Edited October 14, 2021 by kamakazeee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Frank Haise is doing a superb job at Lens. Fofana would be an excellent buy too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamakazeee Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: Frank Haise is doing a superb job at Lens. Fofana would be an excellent buy too. Agreed. He's very good at developing players too. But, this is his first job in a top league and he's only a year in - big risk in terms of experience? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Looks like Bruce is in charge till a new manager is picked, fine that they are taking their time with it, but we can’t afford to end up with Lampard/Martinez at the end of this process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 52 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I wouldn't say they need to be out of job, we're not operating under Big Mike anymore. On a side note, the idea that there are no good, quality options out there because a couple of geezers on an internet forum can't think of any is great. simpler to get someone in who's available right away rather than having to agree compensation with a club to get someone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, kamakazeee said: Favre is the most obvious choice. He's a brilliant man manager, tactically very versatile and has done the job/journey we need to go on over next few years in 2 of his previous 3 jobs. (and done it well). He's took the job at Gladbach in a relegation fight and had them in the champions league in 2 years. I also think a quiet, dignified and unassuming manager over the next few years might be just what we need, especially considering how much noise there will be off the pitch. Also, the ASM story is red herring imo, ASM played 38 times in that season they had together., whilst also producing his best numbers, 5 goals and 8 assists. This is exactly how I feel, and I know a couple of people have expressed some uncertainty about him in the thread, but I think it's a really good fit at this stage, and potentially further. The job he did at Gladbach is a huge plus for me, and exactly what we need here initially. And if he can then go on to actually build on that and compete then brilliant. He was also in discussions with both Palace and Everton prior to this season and so I would imagine he's been keeping an eye on the Premier league and should have a good idea about it. The fact he already also has a good idea of managing our best player is also massive and so there would be no surprises there. He also got the best out of Balotelli while he was at Nice and there is no character more complicated than that guy! Edited October 14, 2021 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Think ASM also poured cold water on the bust up rumours on Twitter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 I’m all in on Favre based on what I have read on here and some of the articles I have seen. My number one choice is still Conte and him not officially ruling himself out gives me hope it’s possible. He was linked with Arsenal about 6 weeks back and came straight out to deny that, he’s been linked with us for a week now and still hasn’t. Still a long shot I know but it would be such a statement and match with the ambition the consortium spoke about last week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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