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2 hours ago, KingArthur said:

Have to say I am bit worried about Livramento. Of course the bigger problem is the right winger, but his passing and decisions when to release and when to dribble is quite often lacking. He is getting better defensively, but comparing that with Trippier's attacking play it really is a big change.

Really doesn't work at the moment no matter who is playing at right wing. And definitely there has to be a left footed player in front of him.

I reckon Trippier would struggle in the current setup as well though. He had an on-fire Miggy in front of him when we were at our best, and a movement-based gameplan that worked down that flank. Livra often has Longstaff just inside and bugger all of any consequence on the right wing. He's on a hiding to nothing in an attacking sense

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2 hours ago, TRon said:

I feel we are overcooking the Livramento thing. He's not Trippier, but not many right backs are. If Trippier is that important to our football then just play him. Personally think the midfield and forwards need to be showing more, while full backs overlapping is a big part of football these days, we should still be able to produce down the right without relying too heavily on a defender.


Well both can be true, Trippier could be better for us in theory but still not playable in his current state/form. 

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I mean if we recruited long term tino you would hope it's because some of his weaknesses can be developed or that longer term the RW picks up the creative element. 

 

Tino can still defend, receive the ball in tight spaces and get us up the pitch riding challenges and staying on his feet. Most of us love him although annoying the lack of that final cross or pass is lacking. I particularly get mad when he's in and around the opposition box he won't shoot although clearly isn't his game. 

 

He isn't going to get you the level of assist trips will but still think that element if recruited well can come from the winger instead. 

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5 hours ago, Geogaddi said:

The weird thing about the Villa collapse is they have had nowhere near the amount of injuries we had last season and the champions league is also far easier this season than we had it last season.

 

Not enough depth = lack of rotation. We had more lack of depth due to injuries, but still fielded a strong starting 11 in many games. It was the fatigue (increased by the injuries) that killed us, and fatigue has a huge impact on Villa aswell. Our key players were completely out of energy from the 60th min, I'd imagine that Villa is experiencing something similar.

 

They went all out vs Juve midweek.

 

 

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1 minute ago, PauloGeordio said:

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Live a little, throw Big Willie on. How bad can he be. Seeing him in training and vid clips the lad doesn’t lack self confidence.

You’ve isolated our main striker all season, it’s the build up play that needs work Eddie.

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17 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

‘Wasn’t allowed’ is a stretch mind.  Despite being completely fucked in terms of FFP (because Howe has been backed to the tune of c.£420m) the club still pursued his no.1 target past the point of reasonableness.  Then we switched to an insane bid for Elanga which was thankfully rejected.

 

Trippier’s been lost it seems due to a complete failure of professionalism.  Perhaps some better management might have helped?  I’ve no idea on that front, but could a different manager have produced a different outcome there?  Shitload of counterfactuals and ‘what ifs’ on that score. 

 

 

The Trippier mess is nothing to do with Eddie, to be fair.

It followed him to Spurs, to Spain and then to us.

Should Howe have known before signing him? Yes, and maybe he did to be fair, but i think at £12m it was a gamble that was worth taking first and foremost and has still proven to be great value in any event.

He should have been moved on last Jan though (and wanted to go) and Howe blocked that.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

We might have got relegated if we hadn't signed Trippier. The project might never have got off the ground. 

 

He was actually injured for a large part of that run in. Even Bruno didn't play until the final few games. It was just Burn and Targett who came in to play regularly during that massive winning streak after january, and our defence was just so shit before that, so Targett and Burn looked like massive upgrades.[emoji38] Wood came in aswell, and he also mattered due to the complete lack of options upfront.

 

We would be nowhere near 4th the following season without Tripps, mind..

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

He was actually injured for a large part of that run in. Even Bruno didn't play until the final few games. It was just Burn and Targett who came in to play regularly during that massive winning streak after january, and our defence was just so shit before that, so Targett and Burn looked like massive upgrades.[emoji38] Wood came in aswell, and he also mattered due to the complete lack of options upfront.

 

We would be nowhere near 4th the following season without Tripps, mind..

 

 

 

 

Only played a handful but those were the games that turned it around, including two crucial goals. Can't think of a more impactful 4 game spell.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Displayname said:

No doubt that Trippier was one of best buys imo. But yeah, should have sold him in January. Said so at the time aswell so not being captain hindsight.

 

Me too, but many were too busy telling me how many assists he had in 2023. Those 2023 assists really came in handy this year!

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1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I don't know if it's because everyone is out of form, but I'm trying to write down the lineup I would go with and it's pretty hard to decide on one where someone isn't out of position or someone isn't really a good option for the position. 

Aye, highlights how poorly we have built the squad imo.

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I don’t have much issue with his stance on Osula, he is a young project player and relative to the league he was “cheap”

 

When he is speaking about a ready made Premier League forward he is speaking about players who typically cost a fortune

 

We don’t have the funds to have 3 or 4 forwards who cost a fortune and are going to need to develop and polish talent like Osula which will take time.

 

Howe has shown himself to be someone who wants to coach and develop players, deserve a bit of trust on that when it comes to Osula.  

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15 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Aye, highlights how poorly we have built the squad imo.


Best I can do is:

 

GK - Pope

 

LB - Hall

LCB - Burn/Bot

RCB - Schar (Guehi)

RB - Tino (Trip) 

 

ACM - Bruno (Joe W) 

LDM - Tonali (Joel)

RDM - Miley (Long) 

 

LW - Barnes (Joe/Joe)

CF - Isak

RW - Gordon 

 

Dunno. 

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Delap wouldn’t have been a world away from the Osulu fee by PL standards.  But I guess he needed guaranteed minutes.  
 

The idea of proven, fit PL player for a backup is tosh though.  It’s a young player, old player, or shit player. 
 

I always thought Wood was as good as you can get a proven PL backup that might be happy to sit on the bench for a club like ours. 

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8 minutes ago, JEToon said:

I don’t have much issue with his stance on Osula, he is a young project player and relative to the league he was “cheap”

 

When he is speaking about a ready made Premier League forward he is speaking about players who typically cost a fortune

 

We don’t have the funds to have 3 or 4 forwards who cost a fortune and are going to need to develop and polish talent like Osula which will take time.

 

Howe has shown himself to be someone who wants to coach and develop players, deserve a bit of trust on that when it comes to Osula.  


Yep, the reaction is way over the top. We all know fans would throw a player in at any point because they aren’t professional, but managers (Howe especially) will not do that. 

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