Eddie Howe - Granted Freedom of Newcastle

[SUPERTOON]

It’s a good job we sold Minteh and Anderson and didn’t take a points deduction mind.

[Dr.Spaceman]

2 minutes ago, LFEE said:

Disagree. I think they have MORE patience than our vocal fanbase. They are aware the EPL have shifted the goalposts since the takeover numerous times leading us to be inactive pretty much in the transfer market and actually having to sell players we’d rather we didn’t have to.

 

Best start to a season and a QF with potentially a SF in our grasp and that’s without the FA Cup starting which without any guarantees would look to have us in the 4th round if we do what is required. Loads to play for with a bit of luck.

 

Priority with the owners now is the revenue streams and maximise success under a restricted budget until rules are changed.

 

Cant think of a better manager to have under those circumstances than EH. Keep the faith. A good January and the picture may look very different come May.

 

I can think of loads. There's only Ange from the teams above us in the league who I wouldn't have.

[LFEE]

2 minutes ago, Andy said:

 

I have a suspicion the club won't back him if there is any doubt over keeping him, if the funds are even available to spend anyway. 

What has he shown why he shouldn’t be backed in the transfer window? Every window he’s been backed he’s achieved objectives and beyond. 

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, LFEE said:

What has he shown why he shouldn’t be backed in the transfer window? Every window he’s been backed he’s achieved objectives and beyond. 

If they have doubts over his long term future it would probably be unwise to back him. Look at Ten Hag this summer for reference.

[Lush Vlad]

13 minutes ago, Ronaldo said:

We’ve spent nearly £200m gross since we finished 4th, right? Putting this on PSR is a stretch. 

I think this team has gone a bit stale and PSR has been a shitter. But this team should not be 12th, 2 wins in 11 and a -2 goal difference. Then again, we’re sandwiched between Spurs and Man U. 
 

Saying all that. It’s not even the league position, for me. It’s how bad and repetitive our performances have been most weeks. In the round. We were really good most of the first half of last season and it started to go south after the Man U game, from memory. When the injuries became a massive factor.
 

I’ve not seen anything close to that this season and we’ve played well over 90 minutes in what, 4-5 games. 

 

 

Edited December 7, 2024 by Lush Vlad

[LFEE]

1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

If they have doubts over his long term future it would probably be unwise to back him. Look at Ten Hag this summer for reference.

I don’t think they have those doubts. Like I say. Every time he’s been backed he’s repaid with interest.

[Collage]

He was backed in the summer and wanted to go all in for Guehi, resulting in us not strengthening at all. 

[Ronaldo]

1 minute ago, LFEE said:

I don’t think they have those doubts. Like I say. Every time he’s been backed he’s repaid with interest.

He was backed summer 2023. From a collective point of view we’ve gone backwards since then. Last season has a tonne of mitigation of course.

[LFEE]

Just now, Collage said:

He was backed in the summer and wanted to go all in for Guehi, resulting in us not strengthening at all. 

 He wanted Tosin and Guehi and got neither and settled for Kelly. That’s not what I’d call backing your manager. Especially in a window he had to sell two players he didn’t want to.

 

Backing a manager is different to simply agreeing with his targets. You got to secure them.

[KaKa]

1 minute ago, LFEE said:

 He wanted Tosin and Guehi and got neither and settled for Kelly. That’s not what I’d call backing your manager. Especially in a window he had to sell two players he didn’t want to.

 

Backing a manager is different to simply agreeing with his targets. You got to secure them.

 

Kelly was not the fall back because we didn't sign those two.

 

Either of the other two would have been signed in addition to Kelly.

 

My goodness man. Why would you even say that?

[Barnes23]

Find it hard to believe that Guehi/Tosin would be making a great deal of difference to our performances at the moment, like. 

[Andy]

11 minutes ago, LFEE said:

What has he shown why he shouldn’t be backed in the transfer window? Every window he’s been backed he’s achieved objectives and beyond. 

 

I'm absolutely certain the club will have doubts if we're sat 12th/13th come January. It really depends on what happens between now and then as to what we'll do. 

[Ben]

3 minutes ago, LFEE said:

 He wanted Tosin and Guehi and got neither and settled for Kelly. That’s not what I’d call backing your manager. Especially in a window he had to sell two players he didn’t want to.

 

Backing a manager is different to simply agreeing with his targets. You got to secure them.

 

100%, we ended the window wesker than it began, that wasn't Howes fault 

[Weezertron]

3 minutes ago, LFEE said:

 He wanted Tosin and Guehi and got neither and settled for Kelly. That’s not what I’d call backing your manager. Especially in a window he had to sell two players he didn’t want to.

 

Backing a manager is different to simply agreeing with his targets. You got to secure them.

TBF we tried for months to buy a player that palace didn't even want to sell. We showed too much willingness to back that transfer imo

[LFEE]

2 minutes ago, Ronaldo said:

He was backed summer 2023. From a collective point of view we’ve gone backwards since then. Last season has a tonne of mitigation of course.

Not going in to heavy as your last sentence you acknowledge the situation. I’d go further and and say we did great to to get 7th in a campaign that contained no rotational games in 6 in the UCL. No rotational games in either domestic cup competitions yet we beat both Manchester teams and were robbed from an another winnable semi when we played Chelsea. Only the best team ever knocking us out of the FAC on their own ground. That and us breaking our goal scoring record for a top flight season. I wouldn’t say we went backwards at all. Especially with what felt like 14 players available majority of the time.

[Jagten]

23 minutes ago, Ronaldo said:

We’ve spent nearly £200m gross since we finished 4th, right? Putting this on PSR is a stretch. 

Spunking >100mm on Tonali and Barnes who, whatever you think of them, don’t really solve any problems, is inexcusable. Both are running at pretty substantial paper losses right now. 

[Maggies]

I worry a lot about the quality of his coaching team.

 

Tindall is the defensive coach - would any other club in the Premier League trust him to manage the defense?

 

Not sure if we have a set piece coach - if so, they’re also hopeless.

Also, unsure what the rest of Eddies team do, but I assume they’re all lower league who worked their way up with Bournemouth.

 

Anyway - he deserves the cup quarter final at the least. But lose that then surely he’s gone unless the owners are happy to write off this season.

 

 

[McDog]

17 minutes ago, Pokerprince2004 said:

Starting to sound a bit like Alan Pardew 👀

 

 

 

 

So we needed an anti-storm device like Brentford had?

 

 

[Weezertron]

2 minutes ago, Maggies said:

I worry a lot about the quality of his coaching team.

 

Tindall is the defensive coach - would any other club in the Premier League trust him to manage the defense?

 

Not sure if we have a set piece coach - if so, they’re also hopeless.

Also, unsure what the rest of Eddies team do, but I assume they’re all lower league who worked their way up with Bournemouth.

 

Anyway - he deserves the cup quarter final at the least. But lose that then surely he’s gone unless the owners are happy to write off this season.

 

 

They're the same person. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

29 minutes ago, Pokerprince2004 said:

Starting to sound a bit like Alan Pardew 👀

 

 

No. 

[Ronaldo]

3 minutes ago, LFEE said:

Not going in to heavy as your last sentence you acknowledge the situation. I’d go further and and say we did great to to get 7th in a campaign that contained no rotational games in 6 in the UCL. No rotational games in either domestic cup competitions yet we beat both Manchester teams and were robbed from an another winnable semi when we played Chelsea. Only the best team ever knocking us out of the FAC on their own ground. That and us breaking our goal scoring record for a top flight season. I wouldn’t say we went backwards at all. Especially with what felt like 14 players available majority of the time.

But you acknowledge we’ve gone backwards since spending a lot of money from that summer onwards?

[AyeDubbleYoo]

3 minutes ago, Maggies said:

I worry a lot about the quality of his coaching team.

 

Tindall is the defensive coach - would any other club in the Premier League trust him to manage the defense?

 

Not sure if we have a set piece coach - if so, they’re also hopeless.

Also, unsure what the rest of Eddies team do, but I assume they’re all lower league who worked their way up with Bournemouth.

 

Anyway - he deserves the cup quarter final at the least. But lose that then surely he’s gone unless the owners are happy to write off this season.

 

 

We definitely seem to Have a more basic coaching staff than really elite clubs. But then, we haven’t been a really elite club for a long time. 
 

I would like to see Howe go and recruit a couple of new coaches TBH, but I have no idea how a manager goes about doing that. Must managers are very close to their team and work with the same staff for years. 

[LFEE]

1 minute ago, Jagten said:

Spunking >100mm on Tonali and Barnes who, whatever you think of them, don’t really solve any problems, is inexcusable. Both are running at pretty substantial paper losses right now. 

In their defence (despite me agreeing to a degree ref Barnes) they were bought under a strategy that wasn’t expected to be in play still. The strategy then was to have 2 HQ players in each position. You can debate the order in which you do that but you can’t argue we are strong at LW and now not suspended in midfield.

[Hovagod]

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

‘Best manager ever’ to wanting him sacked before Christmas.  
 

 

You lot are a scary bunch. 

Clever stuff. But remember that it might not have necessarily have been the same person saying these two comically contrasting things. 

[Keegans Export]

2 minutes ago, Ben said:

 

100%, we ended the window wesker than it began, that wasn't Howes fault 

That depends how involved he was in the transfer activity before then, including players being given contract extensions. 

 

If he was largely hands-off or not particularly involved in which players we were chasing and how much we were willing to spend then fair enough, especially if our PSR position has not been laid out clearly for him. However, if he's gone into the last few transfer windows leading the charge with his eyes wide open then he has to take some of the responsibility for how those transfer windows played out.