Eddie Howe - Granted Freedom of Newcastle

[Matt1892]

8 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

You referred to it as an excuse and said "people on here said it was down to fatigue..."

 

Sounds awfully like you don't think it was an important factor like.

Not at all, which is why there was more of an acceptance of the situation at the time compared to now.

 

You might have interpreted it as me referring to it as an excuse but you would be wrong.

[Sibierski]

He deserves time for when main guys are back, but that’s only then to play his number one system to maximum effort. Not showing any indications of changing things up in meantime which isn’t doing himself any favours.

 

Need to beat Blackburn, then hope we get a home tie in QF. Get us to SF at Wembley will paper over the cracks, but could be what’s needed to keep everyone together. 

[Andy]

13 minutes ago, Matt1892 said:

 

Nobody is saying we were not struggling with fatigue. 

 

@Nobody in the mud 

[Vinny Green Balls]

1 minute ago, Orphanage said:

No i want you to explain why you had a go at someone for criticising Howes formation tonight 

Because he called Howe a prat 

[pubteam]

1 minute ago, Donut said:

 

This is drivel.

 

Yes I'm sure Guimaraes curses out FFP every night at home after training. Oh and we are still in the FA Cup btw.

Apart from the fact that our revenue grows each season, allowing us to grow. The massive investment we have made in young players, many of them who were tracked by the best teams around.  But no, we've reached our ceiling, can't believe somebody gets paid to write that shit.

[huss9]

1 minute ago, Orphanage said:

No i want you to explain why you had a go at someone for criticising Howes formation tonight 

go back and look at what i highlighted in bold man.

i agree we should have gone 5 at the back.

fuck man, its not even worth explaining. i really thought i'd made it obvious.

 

[Vinny Green Balls]

Just now, huss9 said:

go back and look at what i highlighted in bold man.

i agree we should have gone 5 at the back.

fuck man, its not even worth explaining. i really thought i'd made it obvious.

 

You did 

[huss9]

1 minute ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

Because he called Howe a prat 

honestly, dont even bother.

[Orphanage]

If the only tool in Eddies armoury is 4 3 3 then we wont be winning anything soon and he will never become an elite manager . Maybe this season hes found his level . Take one idea and beat it to death ...

[Izakaya]

5 minutes ago, huss9 said:

you think calling our manager a stubborn prat is fine?

 

 

 

Hope Eddie sees this mate 

[Orphanage]

1 minute ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

Because he called Howe a prat 

No i want an answer to the substantive point about Howes seeming inability to do anything other than 4 3 3 

[Collage]

I don’t think it’s controversial to think that EH has been great for us, but if we really want to compete with the big boys, we need someone else. I’m not saying this, btw. He’s still a young manager and one desperate to learn and grow. I do think that this summer is crucial. The squad needs to be improved to match the ambitions of our owners. I’m not fully confident it will happen, of course it’s depending on who we get in as DoF.

[Vinny Green Balls]

1 minute ago, Izakaya said:

Hope Eddie sees this mate 

Jesus Christ, man 

[Orphanage]

1 minute ago, huss9 said:

honestly, dont even bother.

Nice swerve . Try again . 

[kingxlnc]

Klopp most would consider elite and hasn’t played anything other than 4-3-3 in his time at Liverpool

[huss9]

2 minutes ago, Orphanage said:

No i want an answer to the substantive point about Howes seeming inability to do anything other than 4 3 3 

you still dont get it?

go back and read the original post and comment.

[Orphanage]

Just now, huss9 said:

you still dont get it?

go back and read the original post and comment.

Another swerve . Try again . Try harder this time ...

[huss9]

Just now, Orphanage said:

Another swerve . Try again . Try harder this time ...

[Vinny Green Balls]

4 minutes ago, Orphanage said:

No i want an answer to the substantive point about Howes seeming inability to do anything other than 4 3 3 

You missed the entire point of his post then, which is on you. But fair enough if you are whooshing us. We could use some levity 

 

 

Edited February 24, 2024 by Vinny Green Balls

[Orphanage]

Just now, Vinny Green Balls said:

You missed the entire point of his post then, which is on you. 

Nope

[Kid Icarus]

2 minutes ago, kingxlnc said:

Klopp most would consider elite and hasn’t played anything other than 4-3-3 in his time at Liverpool

Or has a plan B. 

[Matt1892]

The issue isn’t playing 4-3-3, as many of the top team play with this formation.

 

The issue with our 4-3-3 is the shape of the midfield, which is set up to go almost man for man against the traditional midfield shape of the other clubs and we are coming off second best, whilst leaving Isak isolated.

[BergenMagpie]

Funny how the most vocal critics here over the last 3 pages have all joined the board in the last 1-2 years. Must be hard not seeing the club matching their glory hunting schedule

[Kid Icarus]

5 minutes ago, Orphanage said:

No i want an answer to the substantive point about Howes seeming inability to do anything other than 4 3 3 

This applies to nigh on every manager 

[The College Dropout]

Just now, Orphanage said:

If the only tool in Eddies armoury is 4 3 3 then we wont be winning anything soon and he will never become an elite manager . Maybe this season hes found his level . Take one idea and beat it to death ...

Tbh I feel like Klopp only really has a 433 in his toolbox. Now of his good Liverpool sides play anything else. 
 

I look at Klopps limitations as a manager and I see many of the same with Howe. I don’t think Klopp knows how to coach an elite defence. If he has enough elite defensive and midfield players it works brilliantly. But with Howe I don’t know what the ceiling is like. 
 

My hope is Howe does enough to be given a chance next season.  I’m not convinced he will.  The midfield gap has been a problem for as long a I can remember. This midfield 3 is awful and has been for months. He doesn’t seem to have a functioning plan B. We could finish 11th. He’ll not survive that. But I do feel like if he got 35+ games with most of the key personnel fit next season we’ll do very well. 
 

Like Klopp - if he can’t do what he really wants to do.  It’s bad.