Ronaldo Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 Just now, LionOfGosforth said: Disagree. We absolutely dominated them in the first half. We showed in 22' and in bits last season we have the ability to be a top 7 side. This season has been a mess from the start but it's the first period in 3 years where we've been unable to break the midtable-feel of things. I just don't think it's a permanent thing and I blame the crap summer, boardroom upheaval, plus a really bad transfer window. The momentum has gone. Is that all Eddie's fault? If the players have stopped playing for him, then it's a short road and we know the outcome. Only they know why they can't get it together consistently. It's fucking maddening. Agree with some of that. I just think we’ve been shit for the vast majority of the season and it can’t be acceptable. No other club with our ambitions would just put their hands over their ears and promise themselves things will get better based on very little. £75m to spend in the summer (Hall’s fee aside) and they bought just Osula. What were they all thinking? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 12 minutes ago, duo said: Uncharacteristic errors? Chances in both halves? Not sure I agree Eddie Can only think of the Tonali header in the second half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 38 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: Every time someone is critical of Eddie or the direction of the club to be fair. I think you might be exaggerating a tad. The criticism has been pretty relentless the season (some of which I've contributed to) and I don't think I've constantly been in here jabbing pointy sticks at any Howe attackers. I'll admit that I've always prickled at criticism which I think is undeserved or doesn't afford enough consideration of context. If I'm generally more forgiving then it's because of the things I place value in and a lasting weariness of hating everything about the club. But I haven't dismissed anyone's views when I've not been in a position to actually defend my own, which is what you said in the first place. Glad this gave you and a few others the opportunity to discharge their irritations about my takes in the form of a Like, like! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: I don’t think the players will ever stop playing for him, they have too much respect for him. I do think our better players may have lost belief in his tactics though. They certainly aren’t designed to get the best out of them. Could well be the case. Only they know. Ultimately, if enough of them don't buy in anymore, the outcome is always the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 29 minutes ago, Beren said: Wonder who would be on the realistic shortlist. Mourinho, Southgate. Potter maybe? Doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 1 minute ago, Joe1984 said: Mourinho, Southgate. Potter maybe? Doubt it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 3 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: He's not playing the way he wants to is the main reason. We want to be set up on the halfway line and keep the opposition penned in. We'll get there again but we need to refresh the squad. Aye and that’s why we are at a big junction. Do we give him the big backing again and hope he can turn it around, or do we replace him and give the new guy the backing. Feels like a critical time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 1 minute ago, Ronaldo said: Agree with some of that. I just think we’ve been shit for the vast majority of the season and it can’t be acceptable. No other club with our ambitions would just put their hands over their ears and promise themselves things will get better based on very little. £75m to spend in the summer (Hall’s fee aside) and they bought just Osula. What were they all thinking? I admittedly haven't enjoyed this season, a few moments aside. The summer activity was a travesty. I find our ability to turn up regularly against the best but play so badly against the rest, really frustrating. Wednesday night felt good, today feels really bad. Some of this is on Eddie, but a lot isn't. Ultimately though, we know how these things tend to turn out. The question being asked mainly seems to be, is now the time? I think it would backfire but we'll see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 Just now, duo said: Hey I didn't say I WANT them as manager. I hope Eddie turns it around... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 ‘Best manager ever’ to wanting him sacked before Christmas. You lot are a scary bunch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 Just now, The College Dropout said: ‘Best manager ever’ to wanting him sacked before Christmas. You lot are a scary bunch. You forgot fickle... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 4 minutes ago, Yorkie said: I think you might be exaggerating a tad. The criticism has been pretty relentless the season (some of which I've contributed to) and I don't think I've constantly been in here jabbing pointy sticks at any Howe attackers. I'll admit that I've always prickled at criticism which I think is undeserved or doesn't afford enough consideration of context. If I'm generally more forgiving then it's because of the things I place value in and a lasting weariness of hating everything about the club. But I haven't dismissed anyone's views when I've not been in a position to actually defend my own, which is what you said in the first place. Glad this gave you and a few others the opportunity to discharge their irritations about my takes in the form of a Like, like! A lashing out from consistently N-O's worst poster (and what a fucking field he's competing in) should be taken as a badge of honour tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 Just now, The College Dropout said: ‘Best manager ever’ to wanting him sacked before Christmas. You lot are a scary bunch. Are they the same people ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Are they the same people ? All straw men Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 (edited) 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Are they the same people ? That was the chime from the large majority last season. And the vast majority seem to want him gone now. Must be significant overlap. Edited December 7, 2024 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 5 minutes ago, Joe1984 said: Mourinho, Southgate. Potter maybe? Doubt it. Conceicao? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: That was the chime from the large majority last season. And the vast majority seem to want him gone now. Must be significant overlap. When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 (edited) 3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Are they the same people ? Dunno but i've never said either of the things mentioned, i'll say that's probably the position of the many, saying neither. I continue to back Eddie, with some worry about how it's going, but i think he can sort it out. Edited December 7, 2024 by Bimpy474 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 Just now, thomas said: When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir? What did you expect from this season given the summer and the atmosphere at the club? I think the vibe from the summer has killed all momentum for the season. All started from the shitshow in June. My biggest issues are with leadership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 I’m just shocked that the first genuine bad spell people want him gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 Mancini would be my pick, btw, if he’d come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 Transfer window fully coming to bite us on the arse. As stale as Natalie from Eastenders clart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said: Would anyone have been able to predict who the current Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea managers would be about six months ago? There is a narrative of ‘there’s no-one out there’, but clearly that isn’t the case. Very much this. The club have the luxury of not needing to panic, so it's entirely on them to make a beneficial and creative decision. Our competitors often manage it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 Just now, Ronaldo said: Mancini would be my pick, btw, if he’d come. Come on man. We are not going to get ahead with a 60-year-old Italian manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted December 7, 2024 Share Posted December 7, 2024 25 minutes ago, Collage said: Scared thinking of who might replace him tbh. Personality wise it will most certainly be a downgrade. Not necessarily, but probably, yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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