Eddie Howe - Nominated for Manager of the Season

[Bimpy474]

I guess a manager can come from an over performing team, It's a subjective point of view.  Imo, the Premier League Manager of the year is Slot, the points difference in his first season, and not really adding to Liverpool squad made it him for me.

 

Overall manager of the year across all competitions is most definitely Eddie Howe.  A trophy, league finish to be determined but looking good for 2nd to 4th.  After being prevented from buying any proper first team players for nearly two season, because of cheating rules.  It couldn't be no other than Eddie. 

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Bimpy474

[TRon]

2 hours ago, 54 said:

If this was a season that was just another Man City win, it'd go to Nuno no question, but as it's Slot's first season and he has managed to win the league, it has to go to him really. I still think that title win feels underwhelming, and I can't really place why it feels that way, as it's a great achievement.

 

Slot basically took over a winning team and arguably made them worse the longer the season went on.

 

 

I think there is no outstanding candidate other than Howe, and I like to think I'm fairly even handed.

[Tiresias]

There are always several perfectly reasonable candidates to be fair. I think it is reasonable to weight winning the league pretty heavily. He also won it at a canter, the fact we can plausibly be 2nd kinda proves that, however amazing an achievement that is for us, it's not the strongest league this year. 

 

Having said that if we do secure 2nd, I think that would be a fairly amazing season for Howe, I remember a lot of pundits prior expecting us to be 7th at best. He would be a worthy winner. Nuno to be frank also deserves it even just for achieving European football. 

 

If they take into account the cups, that of course strengthens Howe and I would argue he ought to win really, but it'll be Slot. 

[Tiresias]

Just now, TRon said:

 

Slot basically took over a winning team and arguably made them worse the longer the season went on.

 

 

I think there is no outstanding candidate other than Howe, and I like to think I'm fairly even handed.

 

I oscillate between this and then considering how many teams fall apart immediately after the iconic coach left. Slot has done well by deciding to fuck it dont need to do much. He has made tweaks. He's still won the league even though it's far from a classic side. 

 

I think however the fragility in the cups proves there is a long way to go, and I actually wonder if that and their tailof is more that while they didnt slump post klopp he has merely delayed it a bit

[TRon]

1 minute ago, Tiresias said:

 

I oscillate between this and then considering how many teams fall apart immediately after the iconic coach left. Slot has done well by deciding to fuck it dont need to do much. He has made tweaks. He's still won the league even though it's far from a classic side. 

 

I think however the fragility in the cups proves there is a long way to go, and I actually wonder if that and their tailof is more that while they didnt slump post klopp he has merely delayed it a bit

 

 

I'm not saying he's a bad manager, just don't think there's enough to go on just yet. It's basically Klopp's team, and it's performed worse the longer the season has gone on. He can only really be judged on his own merit from next season.

[Displayname]

I think Slot deserves it more than Salah deserves player of the year.

[GavMcEl]

Has to be howe whatever happens now in the next 2 weeks imo ? But if we some how manage to finish 2nd and win a cup in the same season, absolutely no way he you can look past him ?

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by GavMcEl

[Ste]

I do think not having a serious team challenging them for the title has helped Liverpool massively, mind. It's obviously a great achievement in his first season, but Arsenal and City have been nowhere near.

[NEEJ]

59 minutes ago, Bimpy474 said:

I guess a manager can come from an over performing team, It's subjective point of view.  Imo, the Premier League Manager of the year is Slot, the points difference in his first season, and not really adding to Liverpool squad made it him for me.

 

Overall manager of the year across all competitions is most definitely Eddie Howe.  A trophy, league finish to be determined but looking good for 2nd to 4th.  After being prevented from buying any proper first team players for nearly two season, because of cheating rules.  It couldn't be no other than Eddie. 

I'd hope Eddie gets the LMA award. Has to, Shirley? 

[Checko]

I'd say Slot's favourite given them running away with the league in his first season in charge.

 

Who else has exceeded their club's expectations the most? Gotta be Nuno. Forest were probably hoping to avoid a relegation scrap and they're still challenging for top 5.

 

That said, last 2 games - if we win both and finish second & Forest lose both & finish 7th you could make a good case for Howe over Nuno. 

 

If we lose both and Forest win both and come above us it would seem mad to pick Howe over Nuno.

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Checko

[McCormick]

Finish 2nd or 3rd and it’s definitely Howe’s to lose.

 

Get 5th on goal difference or whatever and you have to give it to Slot.

[duo]

47 minutes ago, Displayname said:

I think Slot deserves it more than Salah deserves player of the year.

[Displayname]

30 minutes ago, duo said:

Yeah I dont really rate Liverpools squad that highly, and I think Salah himself is also a little overrated. Probably deserves player of the season, but I dont think its as obvious as many do. 

Non-penalty goals+assist is very good, but not that insane. 

 

Keep in mind that the point difference from Liverpool to us is the same as from us to Crystal Palace.

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Displayname

[Stifler]

44 minutes ago, Ste said:

I do think not having a serious team challenging them for the title has helped Liverpool massively, mind. It's obviously a great achievement in his first season, but Arsenal and City have been nowhere near.

And if we finish 2nd, then the runners up ended up never being in a title challenge all season.

[toon25]

We get second or third and he'll very rightly be given the award.

[SUPERTOON]

We haven't strengthened the first team in 2 years, anywhere in the top 5 is a miracle tbf. 

[Coffee_Johnny]

6 minutes ago, Stifler said:

And if we finish 2nd, then the runners up ended up never being in a title challenge all season.

Wouldn’t be the first time. 

[Displayname]

4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

We haven't strengthened the first team in 2 years, anywhere in the top 5 is a miracle tbf. 

Neither have Liverpool tbf.

[TheBrownBottle]

5 hours ago, Lish007 said:

Eddie for me..won a trophy and 2nd place up for grabs. Nuno done very well but just faltered at the last hurdle. Eddie 1st, Nuno 2nd, Slot 3rd 

The trophy win doesn’t come into it - it’s PL only

 

The LMA Manager of the Year does include all the cups

[duo]

48 minutes ago, Displayname said:

Yeah I dont really rate Liverpools squad that highly, and I think Salah himself is also a little overrated. Probably deserves player of the season, but I dont think its as obvious as many do. 

Non-penalty goals+assist is very good, but not that insane. 

 

Keep in mind that the point difference from Liverpool to us is the same as from us to Crystal Palace.

 

 

 

Salah's form this season pretty much won them the league - bar the last few weeks it was his best ever season.  His goals / assists were the difference.  I am of course not saying Slot did a bad job but it helps massively when you have arguably one of the best players in the world in the form of his life.

[Displayname]

6 minutes ago, duo said:

Salah's form this season pretty much won them the league - bar the last few weeks it was his best ever season.  His goals / assists were the difference.  I am of course not saying Slot did a bad job but it helps massively when you have arguably one of the best players in the world in the form of his life.

1 G+A(non-penalties) per game is fantastic no doubt, but i also do feel like without them he doesnt provide that much. Still, I would give the player of the season to him most likely.

 

Slot on the other hand wins the Premier League with +-15 points in his first season without buying anything noteworthy. To me there is no question who deserves manager of the year when we are only looking at the Premier League.

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Displayname

[duo]

7 minutes ago, Displayname said:

1 G+A(non-penalties) per game is fantastic no doubt, but i also do feel like without them he doesnt provide that much. Still, I would give the player of the season to him most likely.

 

Slot on the other hand wins the Premier League with +-15 points in his first season without buying anything noteworthy. To me there is no question who deserves manager of the year when we are only looking at the Premier League.

 

 

 

If we had Salah we'd have won the league

[Displayname]

15 minutes ago, duo said:

If we had Salah we'd have won the league

Taking away one of if not the best player in the Premier league from the ones who won and give in to the 3rd placed team kinda does that yeah.

 

Would you still say we would have won if we swapped him with Isak or Tonali btw?

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Displayname

[Geogaddi]

6 hours ago, MagPar said:

 

Newcastle have lost to many games to mid level teams for my liking. We should have sewn up CL football before now. Bonus points for the cup win but making us wait until the last day of the season to see what European competition we end up in makes him a no for me.

 

What an incredibly strange take. We are ahead of Chelsea and Man City who have spent billions and only a point behind Arsenal who have spent a fortune as well despite us not buying a first team player for about two years. Every team has bad results during the season. To say we should have sewn up CL by now is wild . We are massively overachieving if anything .

[Geogaddi]

6 hours ago, MagPar said:

 

Newcastle have lost to many games to mid level teams for my liking. We should have sewn up CL football before now. Bonus points for the cup win but making us wait until the last day of the season to see what European competition we end up in makes him a no for me.

 

What an incredibly strange take. We are ahead of Chelsea and Man City who have spent billions and only a point behind Arsenal who have spent a fortune as well despite us not buying a first team player for about two years. Every team has bad results during the season. To say we should have sewn up CL by now is wild . We are massively overachieving if anything .