Dokko Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 100% Keegan would have done a better job till the end of the season. Could have sacked Bruce day 1 and had him in till we found a manager (and Rafa was always going to be sacked at some point) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, christ said: I’m not sure the issue is fitness now as much as it is a squad low on talent and low on confidence. As low on talent as Norwich, Brentford, Leeds or Brighton? If your not a good team you have to be hard working, we are not a good team and after 10 games under Howe we are also not a hard working team either, it’s like the fuckers have delusions of grandeur. Edited January 22, 2022 by nufcnick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, nufcnick said: As low on talent as Norwich, Brentford, Leeds or Brighton? If your not a good team you have to be hard working, we are not a good team and after 10 games under Howe we are also not a hard working team either, it’s like the fuckers have delusions of grandeur. Yes. What’s your point caller? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 They're training to play high pressing football, not just to 'work hard' though. I know everone thinks Liverpool are on PEDs but it's a completely different level of fitness and mobility required to effectively play football like that. Howe's having to do it with Jonjo Shelvey. Like granted, he should probably just drop Shelvey, but the other options are also terrible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Just now, christ said: Yes. What’s your point caller? He’s had 10 games to get them to work harder and get the team to press and make it difficult for the opposition, yet we look no different to a Steve Bruce team in levels of effort Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 minute ago, nufcnick said: He’s had 10 games to get them to work harder and get the team to press and make it difficult for the opposition, yet we look no different to a Steve Bruce team in levels of effort So you think Fraser, for example, looks no different? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 I'd anyone thinks Keegan would come back to management now you're out of your mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Just now, elbee909 said: I'd anyone thinks Keegan would come back to management now you're out of your mind. Or that we should have got him back into management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: So you think Fraser, for example, looks no different? Wow your so right 2 players under him have got better, problem is the other 9 have gone backwards at a rather high pace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: They're training to play high pressing football, not just to 'work hard' though. I know everone thinks Liverpool are on PEDs but it's a completely different level of fitness and mobility required to effectively play football like that. Howe's having to do it with Jonjo Shelvey. Like granted, he should probably just drop Shelvey, but the other options are also terrible. Well thats Howe’s job to play with a tactic the squad’s fitness levels allow them to play. Trying to play high pressing football with unfit players is as naive as Norwich under Farke trying to tikitaka with shit players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Kasper said: Well thats Howe’s job to play with a tactic the squad’s fitness levels allow them to play. Trying to play high pressing football with unfit players is as naive as Norwich under Farke trying to tikitaka with shit players. I agree, Howe seems very rigit in implementing his style but I imagine Klopp would be the same (I'm not saying Howe is at Klopps level). He was a gamble in hindsight the more you look into it but now that he's here I cannot see much point in booting him out. As a coach everything seems possitive and will hopefully get exponentially better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Kasper said: Well thats Howe’s job to play with a tactic the squad’s fitness levels allow them to play. Trying to play high pressing football with unfit players is as naive as Norwich under Farke trying to tikitaka with shit players. Why are they so unfit though? That ball over the top last week when Lascelles seemed to be running in slow motion was the worst thing I’ve seen all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Just now, Dr Jinx said: Why are they so unfit though? That ball over the top last week when Lascelles seemed to be running in slow motion was the worst thing I’ve seen all season. Lascelles has always had the speed and turning circle of a WW1 battleship, fucker always looks like he’s running in treacle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, nufcnick said: Wow your so right 2 players under him have got better, problem is the other 9 have gone backwards at a rather high pace Who has went backwards under him like? Arguably ASM but even his stats are better. He made some weird lineup choices early on and his in game decisions have been questionable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, nufcnick said: Lascelles has always had the speed and turning circle of a WW1 battleship, fucker always looks like he’s running in treacle Turning speed yes but he was always fast enough to at least keep up with players. He was either trying hard and just not able to run, or wasn’t trying and didn’t give a fuck if he caught up or not. I’m not sure what is worse to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: Turning speed yes but he was always fast enough to at least keep up with players. He was either trying hard and just not able to run, or wasn’t trying and didn’t give a fuck if he caught up or not. I’m not sure what is worse to be honest. He's looked like a centre half from Soccer Aid this season, watching him chase Josh King last week was painful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said: Or that we should have got him back into management. Get him in as coach like Keegan did with Cox. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 For what it’s worth, my best friend is Leeds through and through and says they’ve been shit apart from 2-3 good performances this year. I don’t think it’s a foregone conclusion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said: For what it’s worth, my best friend is Leeds through and through and says they’ve been shit apart from 2-3 good performances this year. I don’t think it’s a foregone conclusion. Ohh it is, we will make them look like Barcelona today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 29 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said: For what it’s worth, my best friend is Leeds through and through and says they’ve been shit apart from 2-3 good performances this year. I don’t think it’s a foregone conclusion. Seem to have picked up and gained some confidence recently sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 The minute Yasir has had enough of Howe he will be gone. And it could literally happen after any match now at this point I imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kanji said: The minute Yasir has had enough of Howe he will be gone. And it could literally happen after any match now at this point I imagine. ?? no chance. How many games has he had ffs. And how much of the squad is his? Get a grip man. PIF and Yasir will have far more patience and understanding than you, thankfully. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 I think they'd only make an early call to bin Howe if someone was lined up, because Howe going means the whole coaching staff goes, probably leaving us with Graeme Jones leading things again, and no one wants that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Just now, Manxst said: ?? no chance. How many games has he had ffs. And how much of the squad is his? Get a grip man. PIF and Yasir will have far more patience and understanding than you, thankfully. So needlessly aggressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Leeds work ethic and effective pressing, far superior fitness levels, and we have Jonjo Shelvey in the middle who’ll think it’s a good idea to pull shirts when he’s already on a yellow. Thats why it’s 97.5% sure that we’ll lose today. Anything is possible but when you weigh up what we’re up against and what they are up against, it’s very hard to make a case for us. My advice would be to lump on a home win, can get prices as good as 10/11. It will lessen the inevitable rage as 90 mins comes to a close. And then if we do magically do something you won’t mind losing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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