Joe1984 Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 On 07/12/2024 at 22:16, Mike said: I love eddie but We was done in by the weather is worrying. Expand He said it was a factor but not the reason for the defeat tbf. The weather has been chaotic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 On 07/12/2024 at 21:24, et tu brute said: Only because they haven't played one of the top teams at home yet. In fact they have only played Bournemouth in 10th out of the top ten Expand And they still haven’t, regardless of what a lot on here might think we’re not one the top teams either. We had no reason to expect to beat them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 On 07/12/2024 at 22:29, Joe1984 said: He said it was a factor but not the reason for the defeat tbf. The weather has been chaotic. Expand Brentford didn't seem to mind it. It's definitely something Alan would say, and get rightfully ridiculed for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 On 07/12/2024 at 21:56, Wallsendmag said: He's overseen the rise and now he's overseeing the decline. I said on here after the Brighton game (and it's the only time I've ever said it) but I felt he'd taken this team as far as he could and it would be downhill from here on in. Last season was poor, but there was mitigating circumstances. European distractions and injuries, plus Tonali. This season the fixture list is light and the injuries have been few. Only really Botman missing out of regular 1st teamers, maybe Wilson but Isak plays ahead of him anyway. Performances are even worse than last season though and worse still we've gone from having the tightest defence 2 years ago to leaking goals left, right and centre. We aren't going down. We aren't qualifying for Europe. Personally I'd keep him till the end of the season and then shake his hand and pay him off. I actually think that's what they'll do as well. I think they'll try for Mourinho and I also think he'd walk here from Turkey for a job he's always wanted. My choice however would be Iraola at Bournemouth. He's different class and I'd love to see what he could do with a bigger budget. Expand Yes my worry is Howe looks pretty worn out and like he doesn’t have the answers for this, he’s even said that in so many words. I think he’ll be here the rest of the season and go in the summer unless the arse completely falls out of it. The question would be who would they go for and are they available, that’ll probably dictate the timing of things. Someone also made a good point that there’s going to be a fair few to pay off if there’s a sacking. Im not vehemently Howe out, I do think there’s an inevitable feeling about it though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 On 07/12/2024 at 22:30, Gawalls said: And they still haven’t, regardless of what a lot on here might think we’re not one the top teams either. We had no reason to expect to beat them. Expand Thai's the whole point of the last 100+ pages Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 On 07/12/2024 at 22:34, Mike said: Brentford didn't seem to mind it. It's definitely something Alan would say, and get rightfully ridiculed for. Expand I agree, unless we're in an alternate universe both teams played in the same weather. Maybe he meant the wind gusts only happened when we had the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 On 07/12/2024 at 22:34, Mike said: Brentford didn't seem to mind it. It's definitely something Alan would say, and get rightfully ridiculed for. Expand Exactly what a load of bollocks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 Fucking hell, if I need to get the Alan Pardew Excuse Bingo cards out then we’re more fucked than I thought. Ever blame the weather, king? @Alan Pardew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 On 07/12/2024 at 22:16, Mike said: I love eddie but We was done in by the weather is worrying. Expand He didn't say it tbf, Chronicle shit-stirring basically Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 Im fully behind him, but quotes like that are often a sign a manager is running out of ideas. We’ve seen it countless times. Most notably with Pardew and Bruce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 On 07/12/2024 at 22:43, Kid Icarus said: He didn't say it tbf, Chronicle shit-stirring basically Expand Thank fuck for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiddyLevine Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 Anyone remember how long Eddies contract is ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 (edited) On 07/12/2024 at 22:36, McDog said: I agree, unless we're in an alternate universe both teams played in the same weather. Maybe he meant the wind gusts only happened when we had the ball. Expand If any of you actually read the article you would know he said "I don't know if it was a factor. But both teams seem to have a better time of it when shooting the direction the wind was blowing". Not seeing the issue here. If the gale force wind is blowing towards the goal you're shooting at, that obviously gives you an advantage. Which was the case for both teams for 1 half each. Likewise if you're attacking the opposite goal that the gale force wind is blowing towards, then the wind acts like an extra defender making it much harder to score. Again this was the case for both teams for 1 half each. So what Howe said was common sense and not an excuse. But let's all react to the headline and not use our brains, right. 🤣 Edited December 7 by Joe1984 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 The fact he admitted on that Jordan podcast that things had gone stale was quite telling, for the first time I thought he was looking for an excuse. There is truth in you stand still and you go backwards, however he’s stuck by players past there sell by date and must shoulder part of the blame for the current squad state. In hindsight Amanda giving Eddie everything he wants wasn’t the right approach and Ashworth not wanting to give Joelinton a new contract is the biggest example of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 On 07/12/2024 at 22:45, Mike said: Thank fuck for that. Expand Eh he kinda did. He just didn't say it was why we lost. Gonna give it a .3 on the Alan Scale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 On 07/12/2024 at 22:10, et tu brute said: You forgot the king 🤣 Expand On 07/12/2024 at 22:15, El Prontonise said: You forgot Also Glenn Roeder got us to same position in 7th. Expand If you reckon 11/12 and/or 05/06 were better than last season then fair enough. I certainly don't, even if we picked up a few more points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 On 07/12/2024 at 22:47, Mike said: Eh he kinda did. He just didn't say it was why we lost. Gonna give it a .3 on the Alan Scale. Expand He said it was a factor in there naturally being a lot of individual errors in the match overall and that it made it a scrappy game, but that it couldn't be blamed at all for the goals we conceded. He made the point after saying the reason we lost was because our defending was shit and we made errors that cost us. The Chronicle know what they're doing using a throwaway comment like that and putting it front and centre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 On 07/12/2024 at 22:51, Kid Icarus said: He said it was a factor in there naturally being a lot of individual errors in the match overall and that it made it a scrappy game, but that it couldn't be blamed at all for the goals we conceded. He made the point after saying the reason we lost was because our defending was shit and we made errors that cost us. The Chronicle know what they're doing using a throwaway comment like that and putting it front and centre. Expand Attributing attacking one goal being fruitful and then saying that the switch at HT had an effect is a poor excuse because the other team scored in both halves. It's not a full Pardew but it's something. The headline is dogshit, admittedly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 On 07/12/2024 at 22:46, Joe1984 said: If any of you actually read the article you would know he said "I don't know if it was a factor. But both teams seem to have a better time of it when shooting the direction the wind was blowing". Not seeing the issue here. If the gale force wind is blowing towards the goal you're shooting at, that obviously gives you an advantage. Which was the case for both teams for 1 half each. Likewise if you're attacking the opposite goal that the gale force wind is blowing towards, then the wind acts like an extra defender making it much harder to score. Again this was the case for both teams for 1 half each. So what Howe said was common sense and not an excuse. But let's all react to the headline and not use our brains, right. 🤣 Expand Hey brother, of course I didn't read it, that is what you lot are for. Glad to hear what was quoted on the Twitter post is not accurate because that would be a bit much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 We have had shit away performances for one and a half year and have been carried by the atmosphere and energy the players get from playing at home. Please dont tell me that the negativity from some us come from him having his first bad streak of results. Its been going on for some time now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 On 07/12/2024 at 23:02, Displayname said: We have had shit away performances for one and a half year and have been carried by the atmosphere and energy the players get from playing at home. Please dont tell me that the negativity from some us come from him having his first bad streak of results. It’s been going on for some time now. Expand Even the most ardent Eddie lovers last season admitted (rightly) he needed a good start to this one. There’s a lot of head in the sand stuff going on. Thankfully some smart, balanced opinions too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 On 07/12/2024 at 22:53, Mike said: Attributing attacking one goal being fruitful and then saying that the switch at HT had an effect is a poor excuse because the other team scored in both halves. It's not a full Pardew but it's something. The headline is dogshit, admittedly. Expand Aye, the headline is total misleading and click bait. It's the same for both sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 On 07/12/2024 at 21:30, Joe1984 said: No my logic was why would an elite manager join a club not in Europe and sitting 12th in the league? You can talk about Elite managers all day long. They may not want to come here. Of course Eddie is replaceable, everyone is. Expand I agree that the idea of us hiring an elite manager might be fanciful, but they don't necessarily have to be seen as elite today to actually be elite once they get here. Frankly, Eddie was a great example of that until about 12 months ago. If we've got the talent at director/board level, it's very plausible we get someone seriously good, regardless of their reputation. I accept I'm one of the first to say that's a huge "if", mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 On 07/12/2024 at 22:11, DiddyLevine said: With Eales stepping down due to ill health , who exactly is in charge ? Maybe a reason why Eddies not getting pushed till the end of the season ? Expand This is a good question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted December 7 Share Posted December 7 Shearer raised the point of the pressing, I almost forgot we did that. Last season there was the excuse that we were too tired to do that cos of the CL and injuries. I bought that. But what’s the reason now?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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