Eddie Howe

[Fak]

1 minute ago, Rod said:

Just turned 68 ya knacker!

Did you do anything nice for it?

[Rod]

6 minutes ago, Fak said:

Did you do anything nice for it?

The wife and I spent a week in Lanzarote.  Cheers.

[Cf]

So for those saying Howe should be sacked if we finish below 8th, presumably the same would be said for Emery at this point.

 

So assuming the "big 6" take the 6 spots you're saying either one of Howe or Emery should be sacked at the end of the season? Sounds a bit ridiculous to me.

[Rod]

1 minute ago, Cf said:

So for those saying Howe should be sacked if we finish below 8th, presumably the same would be said for Emery at this point.

 

So assuming the "big 6" take the 6 spots you're saying either one of Howe or Emery should be sacked at the end of the season? Sounds a bit ridiculous to me.

It is ridiculous.

[HaydnNUFC]

8 minutes ago, Cf said:

So for those saying Howe should be sacked if we finish below 8th, presumably the same would be said for Emery at this point.

 

So assuming the "big 6" take the 6 spots you're saying either one of Howe or Emery should be sacked at the end of the season? Sounds a bit ridiculous to me.

 

TBF Emery has the CL to contend with this season, we don't.

[Erikse]

This seasons Villa is pretty similar to our last season in terms of expectations imo. We had tougher opponents in Europe, but they have more games. If Villa fail to qualify for Europe, their next season will be like this season for us, atleast in terms of expectations and talk of Emerys job. Finally, he has actually qualified for Europe with them twice, so that also makes up a small difference.

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Erikse

[Cf]

1 minute ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

TBF Emery has the CL to contend with this season, we don't.

 

Sure, but that's not the point i'm making.

 

If we've got 6 teams who "should" finish in the top 6 then that leaves little for everyone else. We're not the only team in the PL with ambitions. Multiple clubs can do a good job, but they can't all take 7th.

 

I'm not saying Howe and the hierarchy are above criticism but I find blanket statements like "7th or sacked" incredibly simplistic and a road to ruin.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Deciding on a manager based on a league position here and there is idiotic anyway TBH. It should always be about overall performance, future possibilities, fit with the strategy etc. 

 

Last year we basically only missed out on Europe due to bad luck, even with an injury crisis I've never seen before and incredibly difficult fixtures.

 

When Howe shows that he has given up, can't solve problems, can't motivate players etc... that's when we should be thinking about sacking him.  

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by AyeDubbleYoo

[Paully]

Crazy to think we were that daft Trips mistake away at Chelsea late on to being in three successive league cup semi finals (and it would have been two finals as we'd have tanked Boro over two legs!)! Our record before Eddie was tragic in this competition!

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Paully

[TRon]

25 minutes ago, Erikse said:

This seasons Villa is pretty similar to our last season in terms of expectations imo. We had tougher opponents in Europe, but they have more games. If Villa fail to qualify for Europe, their next season will be like this season for us, atleast in terms of expectations and talk of Emerys job. Finally, he has actually qualified for Europe with them twice, so that also makes up a small difference.

 

 

 

 

I agree, Emery's position is more like ours last season when we were playing CL, except they have qualified for the next stage whereas we went out. I am quite surprised to hear he is under pressure after a couple of poor results in the league. He's been brilliant for them, you would only really expect doubts to surface if they had a poor season. Don't see how you can judge that when they are still in the CL.

[Matt1892]

3 hours ago, Interpolic said:

 

Aye I've noticed

 

We can't look at these 6 clubs who have been given every possible advantage with the new rules, are on a different planet to us financially, and say we MUST finish above at least one of them or it's curtains and the manager has to go. That's madness. 

 

Obviously the plan is to build our finances so we can compete consistently on more of a level playing field, but whether that's possible at quicker than a snail's pace is the great unknown. People giving Howe these daft targets most probably don't like Howe and want him sacked for whatever reason. 

Even if you take the sky six out and say that we can’t compete with them due to finance, which doesn’t take in to account that they have bad seasons…

 

We have a higher revenue than Villa as of the last set of accounts, the 7th highest in the league, so why is 7th an overachievement?

 

Not even taking in to account all of the extra games Villa have in Europe this year.

[Matt1892]

1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Deciding on a manager based on a league position here and there is idiotic anyway TBH. It should always be about overall performance, future possibilities, fit with the strategy etc. 

 

Last year we basically only missed out on Europe due to bad luck, even with an injury crisis I've never seen before and incredibly difficult fixtures.

 

When Howe shows that he has given up, can't solve problems, can't motivate players etc... that's when we should be thinking about sacking him.  

 

 

 

If we finish lower than 7th then it is showing a trend of going backwards season on season. 

[Scoot]

5 minutes ago, Matt1892 said:

If we finish lower than 7th then it is showing a trend of going backwards season on season. 

 

Which is exactly what PSR was designed to do...