Eddie Howe

[Erikse]

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

 Isak went straight into the team and played until he got injured. 

 

Sure, a few games. Then he had to fight for his place when he was back. Tonali also went straight in before the suspension, but then had to get the spot back from Longstaff after. Sure, they weren't fit, but it took a while until they were starting frequently.

[SteV]

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

 Isak went straight into the team and played until he got injured. 

Only because Wilson was injured.

 

Once he was back and they were both fit (admittedly that was often intermittently) it took Isak a good while to establish himself as unquestionable first choice.

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

Last 19 games including league, cups & friendlies we have won 2 games

 

Bradford & wolves 

 

Lads we need to talk 

[Fak]

2 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said:

Last 19 games including league, cups & friendlies we have won 2 games

 

Bradford & wolves 

 

Lads we need to talk 

 

No we don't.

[black_n_white]

1 minute ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said:

Last 19 games including league, cups & friendlies we have won 2 games

 

Bradford & wolves 

 

Lads we need to talk 

All coincides with the down tooling / departure of a certain striker. Won’t be popular for saying this but the team has regressed a bit. Let’s hope they can pick things up a little in the coming weeks.

[Drewboy74]

25 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

What did he say that was so wrong that warranted this response? Genuine question. 

 

 

 

 

 

Probably the Bruno being awful this season bit. 

 

 

Edited September 29, 2025 by Drewboy74

[TRon]

38 minutes ago, Curva Sud Milano said:

 

I couldn't agree more... the handling of the Isaak case, the timing of the Thiaw purchase, the expensive acquisition of Elanga ( I know very little about him but clearly he doesn't have Howe's trust), and the purchase of Wolt (who I like a lot) the last day and  who has nothing to do with your 4-3-3... that's why I also believe your recruitment was a disaster. I don't know if Wissa will be used as a winger or a striker but in both cases Howe will have a problem if he doesn't change his setup. I think the best solution might be a 4-4-1-1 with Wolt behind Wissa.The midfield suffered a lot yesterday, with  Bruno and Joe in form you would have no problems but both (especially Bruno) have been awful since the start of the season... perhaps a 4-man midfield would help them and the team.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think some of what you are saying is true, but given the circumstances, we were in reactive mode because Isak's loss hit us hard. Thiaw I disagree with you on it, we have watched him a long time and he has done very well in his few appearances so far. We also have tracked Elanga for a long time, and while he's not started so much yet, that might just be to get him used to how we play. It's not a reflection on his performances. 

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

2 minutes ago, Fak said:

 

No we don't.

Shut up Fakky boy 

[Erikse]

I do think that we were overly reliant on Isak.. If you look at our stats when Isak was injured or out of form last season, I think our winrate was pretty mediocre. When he was in form we won nearly every single game. Obviously having Woltemade there helps, but he can't win us games on his own to the same degree yet.

 

 

Edited September 29, 2025 by Erikse

[Fak]

43 minutes ago, Curva Sud Milano said:

I couldn't agree more... the handling of the Isaak case, the timing of the Thiaw purchase, the expensive acquisition of Elanga ( I know very little about him but clearly he doesn't have Howe's trust), and the purchase of Wolt (who I like a lot) the last day and  who has nothing to do with your 4-3-3... that's why I also believe your recruitment was a disaster. I don't know if Wissa will be used as a winger or a striker but in both cases Howe will have a problem if he doesn't change his setup. I think the best solution might be a 4-4-1-1 with Wolt behind Wissa.The midfield suffered a lot yesterday, with  Bruno and Joe in form you would have no problems but both (especially Bruno) have been awful since the start of the season... perhaps a 4-man midfield would help them and the team.

 

What on earth are you waffling on about?

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

1 minute ago, Fak said:

 

What on earth are you waffling on about?😂

[AyeDubbleYoo]

30 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

What did he say that was so wrong that warranted this response? Genuine question. 

 

Our transfer dealings were a disaster. 
 

Howe clearly doesn’t trust Elanga. 
 

We should play 441. 
 

Wolt can’t play in 433. 

Bruno has been awful this season. 
 

I wouldn’t go on a Milan forum making loads of pronouncements about their club and their players. It’s bollocks.

[HawK]

Personally I think 4-3-3 has run its course

 

4-1-2-3 iyam

 

All fit -

 

Livra-Thiaw-Botman-Hall

----------Miley-----------

-----Bruno----Tonali-----

-Wissa---Wolte--Elanga--

 

In possession full backs can get forward, wingers can tuck in to overload. Out of possession it can become a 4-5-1 easily enough.

 

All that aside, the decision to start Burn LB vs Saka is confounding to me, especially leaving Trippier on the bench and Livra could have dealt with him.

 

Murphy never plays well when we don't have the ball, should have been Elanga for the counter. Joelinton was chasing shadows and looked out of his depth. Gordon's basic footballing ability has deserted him.

 

Combination of bad tactical choices combined with some very out-of-form players, lucky to only lose by 1 tbh.

 

I have faith Howe will turn it around but he might need to evolve his tactical thinking, I know I'm a broken record but this flat 3 in the middle just doesn't work in possession for us, it give us nothing.

 

[Gallowgate Toon]

Personally, I can stomach the lack of chances we aren't creating for Woltemade while he gets up to speed, but then you want to see the benefits of having a striker that likes to be involved in play by dropping in. You'd think a big plus there would be we'd have more options to be able to hold the ball and build possession + some momentum, but we were hopeless on the ball yesterday and couldn't get him involved.

[Curva Sud Milano]

9 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

I think some of what you are saying is true, but given the circumstances, we were in reactive mode because Isak's loss hit us hard. Thiaw I disagree with you on it, we have watched him a long time and he has done very well in his few appearances so far. We also have tracked Elanga for a long time, and while he's not started so much yet, that might just be to get him used to how we play. It's not a reflection on his performances. 

 

No, no...it's not about the player's quality...precisely because you had been following him for a long time, you acted badly. He had been sold to Como for 20 at the beginning of July, he refused the transfer and you took him for 40 a month later. That month's delay cost you 20 million more.

[Erikse]

1 minute ago, Curva Sud Milano said:

 

No, no...it's not about the player's quality...precisely because you had been following him for a long time, you acted badly. He had been sold to Como for 20 at the beginning of July, he refused the transfer and you took him for 40 a month later. That month's delay cost you 20 million more.

 

I think Italian clubs charge more when Premier League clubs are in for their players. Especially for Premier League clubs that are in the Champions League.

 

 

Edited September 29, 2025 by Erikse

[madras]

2 minutes ago, Curva Sud Milano said:

 

No, no...it's not about the player's quality...precisely because you had been following him for a long time, you acted badly. He had been sold to Como for 20 at the beginning of July, he refused the transfer and you took him for 40 a month later. That month's delay cost you 20 million more.

It wasn't the delay, it was the geography and a Saudi tax.

 

 

Edited September 29, 2025 by madras

[TRon]

Just now, Erikse said:

 

I think Italian clubs charge more when Premier League clubs are in for their players. Especially for Premier League clubs that are in the Champions League.

 

 

 

 

 

Yep. There was never a deal on for us at £20m. Not to mention we had a makeshift transfer team in place because of Mitchell's unexpected departure. This summer was definitely a crisis window for us, and we did the best we could given the short notice. 

[Curva Sud Milano]

2 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

I think Italian clubs charge more when Premier League clubs are in for their players. Especially for Premier League clubs that are in the Champions League.

 

 

 

 

Allegri decided to keep him after his good performances in pre-season... in may we all knew that Thiaw would leave.

[Erikse]

Just now, Curva Sud Milano said:

 

Allegri decided to keep him after his good performances in pre-season... in may we all knew that Thiaw would leave.

 

I'm seeing that it was 25m euro from Como and we payed 35m euros. Quite a bit different from your numbers. That price difference is to be expected when selling to Como vs Newcastle.

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, Erikse said:

 

I'm seeing that it was 25m euro from Como and we payed 35m euros. Quite a bit different from your numbers. That price difference is to be expected when selling to Como vs Newcastle.

The point being made is we made our approach when Como did we get him at that price. 

[Erikse]

1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

The point being made is we made our approach when Como did we get him at that price. 

 

He said it was a 20m difference, but it was 10m euros. The moment we are in for him, they turn up the price, because we are usually willing to spend a bit more given the spending power compared to Como. Us having to pay 10m euros more is kind of expected.

 

 

Edited September 29, 2025 by Erikse

[Yorkie]

21 minutes ago, black_n_white said:

All coincides with the down tooling / departure of a certain striker. Won’t be popular for saying this but the team has regressed a bit. Let’s hope they can pick things up a little in the coming weeks.

 

This isn't a controversial statement. Losing Isak automatically means we are a worse team, regardless of any signing. Losing his replacement as well has made our start to life this season all the more difficult. Losing the apparent third choice to suspension for three games was the cherry on top. Meanwhile Woltemade still can't finish a game and Osula isn't up to it.

 

It's a bit of a mess really. 

[r0cafella]

Just now, Erikse said:

 

He said it was a 20m difference, but it was 10m euros. The moment we are in for him, they turn up the price, because we are usually willing to spend a bit more given the spending power compared to Como.

Obviously this is tedious and we've done it to death so I'll just leave it here. 

[Curva Sud Milano]

18 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Our transfer dealings were a disaster. 
 

Howe clearly doesn’t trust Elanga. 
 

We should play 441. 
 

Wolt can’t play in 433. 

Bruno has been awful this season. 
 

I wouldn’t go on a Milan forum making loads of pronouncements about their club and their players. It’s bollocks.

 

The first four are all my personal opinions, and if you dispute them I won't be offended...don't worry.

The one about Bruno is a fact.