Eddie Howe

[MagPar]

43 minutes ago, Andy said:

 even Woltemade is a bit of a question mark since we have no idea how to get him involved in games. 

 

This feels like his toughest moment at the club. 

You cant blame big wolfy, he's been great. It's not his fault if he isn't getting any service and any flicks/lay offs he make are wasted by other players. 

 

Wissa will make a difference, either play him upfront as a 9 with wolf behind or as a big man/wee man combo, or play Wissa in place of Gordon, Elanga etc but further forward.

 

I'd rather we played them both up front though with wolf slightly behind, and buy another striker of reasonable quality add strength in depth and keeps displacency away. Big Willie is not that player. 

 

We may be shite in the league at the moment but we're only 6 behind Scumpool. Unfortunately it's Man City next so that's pretty much 3 points lost but after that we must improve, and we'll see what happens when Wissa starts getting minutes and hopefully is fully fit for the Christmas/New Year fixture madness. 

 

Also,not losing to Sunderland is a must. A convincing Mackems win could really start fans questioning Eddie Howe. 

 

I've always said I can handle losing, but not losing in the way we are to bog standard teams we should be pumping. There is a worrying lack of fight and urgency that needs to change, and change really fucking soon.

 

90 million for Elanga and Murphy though, it's looking like money burned. At least Harvey looks a bit more confident when he gets a chance, let's hope it continues and rubs off on the others. 

None of this 3 games a week pish excuse though. That's what success brings, so fucking deal with it. 

 

Also, get Neave and Park on the bench and give them minutes. If they're shite I'll hold my hands up,but at least give them a chance. 

[nufc123]

5 minutes ago, Numbers said:

Listening to the interview, he still doesn't think leaving Burn on was the wrong decision, he seemed a bit abrasive in his answer.

Thats very poor if true.

[Joe1984]

Just now, MagPar said:

You cant blame big wolfy, he's been great. It's not his fault if he isn't getting any service and any flicks/lay offs he make are wasted by other players. 

 

Wissa will make a difference, either play him upfront as a 9 with wolf behind or as a big man/wee man combo, or play Wissa in place of Gordon, Elanga etc but further forward.

 

I'd rather we played them both up front though with wolf slightly behind, and buy another striker of reasonable quality add strength in depth and keeps displacency away. Big Willie is not that player. 

 

We may be shite in the league at the moment but we're only 6 behind Scumpool. Unfortunately it's Man City next so that's pretty much 3 points lost but after that we must improve, and we'll see what happens when Wissa starts getting minutes and hopefully is fully fit for the Christmas/New Year fixture madness. 

 

Also,not losing to Sunderland is a must. A convincing Mackems win could really start fans questioning Eddie Howe. 

 

I've always said I can handle losing, but not losing in the way we are to bog standard teams we should be pumping. There is a worrying lack of fight and urgency that needs to change, and change really fucking soon.

 

90 million for Elanga and Murphy though, it's looking like money burned. At least Harvey looks a bit more confident when he gets a chance, let's hope it continues and rubs off on the others. 

None of this 3 games a week pish excuse though. That's what success brings, so fucking deal with it. 

 

Also, get Neave and Park on the bench and give them minutes. If they're shite I'll hold my hands up,but at least give them a chance. 

£90 million for Elanga and Murphy?

 

Murphy's been good at times though. 

 

Or did you mean Ramsey?

[SUPERTOON]

Our first few games after the break don’t look great on paper. Could get worse before it gets better.

[Menace]

4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

 

 

Not a lot wrong with what he said to be honest, the players are clearly lacking confidence.

[Nucasol]

1 minute ago, nufc123 said:

Thats very poor if true.

Haven’t seen it in any quotes, would be interesting to see as that’s the one thing he needs to own.

[Vinny Green Balls]

Just now, Menace said:

 

Not a lot wrong with what he said to be honest, the players are clearly lacking confidence.

One thing that is so good about him is that he never shirks responsibility. Fucking Bruce would have thrown everyone under the bus, and self victimized like a spokeman for the IDF. 

[looneytoon]

 

 

[Weezertron]

His reasoning for keeping him on was needing burns height for defending set plays.

 

I don’t agree with height over footballing ability, myself. 
 

We’ve had load of injuries so I get it, but as they come back it’s time to put round pegs in round holes, regardless of opposition. 

[MagPar]

3 minutes ago, Joe1984 said:

£90 million for Elanga and Murphy?

 

Murphy's been good at times though. 

 

Or did you mean Ramsey?

You are correct, I meant Ramsey. See what these performances do to my brain.

[SUPERTOON]

3 minutes ago, Nucasol said:

Haven’t seen it in any quotes, would be interesting to see as that’s the one thing he needs to own.

He said he kept him on for his height having lost Joelinton. In hindsight he may have done things differently.

[Nucasol]

1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

He said he kept him on for his height having lost Joelinton. In hindsight he may have done things differently.

It’s a beautiful thing and 20:20, but today you hardly needed to be a pre-cognitive to see what was going to happen.

[nufc123]

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

He said he kept him on for his height having lost Joelinton. In hindsight he may have done things differently.

Thats all good having him on because of height, but there was a lot more trouble going on than height being the main issue.

[gbandit]

I do think Howe’s fetish for physical attributes is an issue. Wingers = speed, midfielders = endurance, defenders = height. He loves all of those attributes and will try to work players in with those traits if possible but he sometimes prioritises those traits above footballing ability on the pitch and we can see the impact of that. Awful ball retention, awful transitions and facing waves of attacks from the opposition  

[madras]

32 minutes ago, Displayname said:

Are we certain? Has Hall ever started when both Botman and Burn was fit and available?

I dont think so but Hall has got better and better to the point when.....

[The College Dropout]

59 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said:

 

I think that's fanciful if this form continues tbh. We can't be in a relegation battle.

Dont think we will. 

[Lotus]

Don’t often think ‘Eddie’s gotta take the blame for this one’ blah blah. But in this case, could tell Burn was going to struggle and could immediately see JL was going to have a tough game too. 
Leaving Burn out there was a very very poor decision. 
 

Eddie’s is not fond of rotation. I think we can all admit this now. 
 

I honestly think this has been bad enough that the Saudi arses might start twitching a bit.

[Newcastle Fan]

As good as he is, it shows whenever we reach Europe that he doesn't have enough experience dealing with a lot of matches in a row.

 

The first season we went back to the Champions League we lost the plot when the games started coming fast and there are signs of this already this season, i don't think we've done as bad and sometimes we have to remind ourselves that  poor league form aside, we are still fighting in all fronts but he needs to up his game during the international break and work out how he'll navigate the extremely busy period coming up.

 

 

 

[geordiesteve710]

12 minutes ago, Weezertron said:

His reasoning for keeping him on was needing burns height for defending set plays.

 

I don’t agree with height over footballing ability, myself. 
 

We’ve had load of injuries so I get it, but as they come back it’s time to put round pegs in round holes, regardless of opposition. 

 

I posted in the match thread that this was likely the reasoning. Wanting him on the pitch for his height and aerial ability is fair enough, but in that case he should have switched something around so that Burn was at centreback not left back. There were options to do so (albeit none of them ideal) but it was a priority to sort out.

 

There was an obvious problem there which was going to cause us grief and Eddie should have dealt with it proactively.

[Yorkie]

10 minutes ago, Andy said:

I don't think Eddie should be under pressure internally yet, but he undoubtedly will be externally from large chunks of our fanbase if the form continues, especially with the mackems doing so well at the moment too. 

 

He got it wrong today and has quite a few times this season. And yes, there are huge concerns over our identity and capability to create chances, but it's a little too early for full-blown panic. 

 

Priority for me however should be a review by the club into the summer's recruitment. It wasn't good enough, we all knew it wasn't at the time, and if Eddie led that then there definitely needs be discussion about just how much control he has in that department. There's a reason why other clubs have moved away from the notion of their head coach also being their head scout. It's incredibly difficult to see what we saw in Elanga and Ramsey, and for me the jury is out on all of our signings apart from Thiaw at the moment - even Woltemade is a bit of a question mark since we have no idea how to get him involved in games. 

 

This feels like his toughest moment at the club. 

 

Pinning our current troubles on the summer recruitment is just a lazy critique imo. In fact it's almost a cliche at this point because we've heard it all before. 

 

It's too early to make a judgement, it's as simple as that. There's also mitigation, particularly in the case of the strikers, because of the Isak saga, the fact Wissa got injured, and the fact that we essentially resorted to Woltemade after PSR dictated our top targets (and our own fucking player) were destined for someone else. 

 

The whole unit is dysfunctional. That doesn't just come down to who we placed on our summer shortlist.

[The College Dropout]

13 minutes ago, gbandit said:

I do think Howe’s fetish for physical attributes is an issue. Wingers = speed, midfielders = endurance, defenders = height. He loves all of those attributes and will try to work players in with those traits if possible but he sometimes prioritises those traits above footballing ability on the pitch and we can see the impact of that. Awful ball retention, awful transitions and facing waves of attacks from the opposition  

Agreed. I like those attributes too for those positions but you need a balance of ability somewhere even with a tilt. 
 

Im convinced Hall wasn’t Eddie’s first choice btw. We were linked to Anthonee Robinson, about 6’2 quick and go up and down all game. I think that’s Howe’s Preferred choice. And he was ok with Hall who was more an Ashworth pick. 

[geordiesteve710]

In my book, he carries the can for today.

 

But any talk of sacking him is misguided. At half-tike tiday we were en route to winning 5 of the last 6 in all competitions which isn't a bad run (and yes I know the away form is wank and football has been a bit lethargic and toothless this season but it's a results business.) Also feel like he gets a bit of leeway due to the Isak situation and Wissa injury.

 

Not to say that there aren't things to he resolved or that we shouldn't be doing better, but perspective is needed.

[Tsunami]

13 minutes ago, Weezertron said:

His reasoning for keeping him on was needing burns height for defending set plays.

 

I don’t agree with height over footballing ability, myself. 
 

We’ve had load of injuries so I get it, but as they come back it’s time to put round pegs in round holes, regardless of opposition. 

I said in a much earlier post that I thought that’s why he’d been kept on and, if he’s confirmed that, it’s a really poor decision. No defending a decision that the opposition manager will no doubt be trying to take advantage of in every attacking situation when they’re in transition.

 

It comes across as stubborn and naive. 

[Vinny Green Balls]

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

Agreed. I like those attributes too for those positions but you need a balance of ability somewhere even with a tilt. 
 

Im convinced Hall wasn’t Eddie’s first choice btw. We were linked to Anthonee Robinson, about 6’2 quick and go up and down all game. I think that’s Howe’s Preferred choice. And he was ok with Hall who was more an Ashworth pick. 

he's not 6'2". He's barely 6'

[Maggies]

How much more hindsight does Howe need that Burn is a liability defensively at left back. Three years of hindsight not enough?