Eddie Howe

[SAK]

Just now, The College Dropout said:

They aren’t playing 8 extra fixtures at an elite level.  
 

I didn’t think we did good enough in the summer. I said we could finish 8th without complaints.  Squad is bang average outside a small core. 

That’s what the extra budget he have over these should cover.

Agree the transfer window was poor. Thiaw the best signing for me, Woltemade has huge potential but nothing guaranteed. Elanga’s shown one good half against Barca and I don’t see anything more than an elite athlete with no real skill. Whoever signed off on that deal needs reprimanding as

it looks a waste of £55m.

 

[Heron]

2 minutes ago, Geordie Magpie said:

 

Not saying Eddie should be sacked as I don't think he should be our away form will be his downfall at one point

There are literally only 2 results on there that I find pretty unacceptable tbh.

 

A lot of teams lose away to Villa, Arsenal. Brighton and Bournemouth. It's the last two that have been particularly woeful.

 

I honestly think that is in some part down to the noise being created about this problem.

[Erikse]

7 minutes ago, Heron said:

There are literally only 2 results on there that I find pretty unacceptable tbh.

 

A lot of teams lose away to Villa, Arsenal. Brighton and Bournemouth. It's the last two that have been particularly woeful.

 

I honestly think that is in some part down to the noise being created about this problem.

 

Imo Villa and Leeds at the start of the season was also there for the taking. Villa was horrible in the first few games, and Leeds aren't great, but we made it easy for them. We can talk about how difficult away games are, but winning some tough away games every now and then should be an expectation.

 

 

Edited November 9, 2025 by Erikse

[Vinny Green Balls]

17 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

I said it last year but I think it's worth repeating because the same applies now even more so and we do have a tendency to not be able to see beyond our own noses.

 

One of the problems Howe has at the moment is that he still doesn't have the high level kudos to make people look elsewhere when things go downhill just yet. 

 

I said the above last year, pre-EFL Cup win, so it's improved a bit for him, but that aside his brilliant achievements are still quite intangeable and modest compared to others. 

 

Guardiola and Emery had that advantage in their poor spells, Rafa had it with us, Klopp had it in 22/23. They have the CVs to ward off fingers being widely pointed at them and the reasonable assumption is that the problems lie elsewhere - be it era transitioning, injuries, scouting, recruitment etc.

 

Any of the above in the same situation as Howe now (which we shouldn't forget, they have been, albeit a couple of them in much more first world problems terms where PSR doesnt exist) and they get every benefit of any doubt, rightly so.

 

Guardiola, last season in-particular had it and even now they're nowhere near the levels they've reached and are still in transition. Even in seasons they won, they still had things like a long-standing record of never winning when Rodri didn't play, or making selection and tactical decisions in big knockout games that were seen as him overthinking things

 

Likewise Klopp in his last 2 seasons when it was clear that team was coming to an end and they needed a refresh had it despite them playing rubbish.

 

I'm not saying Howe is Guardiola or Klopp, but we are a team in transition, not just because of the amount of player turnover, but because we've completely changed our attacking focal point. It's going to take time to get it right and I have every confidence that Howe will.

Also did you forget the 17-18 season? A fair few on here were calling for Rafa’s head in December and January.

[The College Dropout]

7 minutes ago, SAK said:

That’s what the extra budget he have over these should cover.

Agree the transfer window was poor. Thiaw the best signing for me, Woltemade has huge potential but nothing guaranteed. Elanga’s shown one good half against Barca and I don’t see anything more than an elite athlete with no real skill. Whoever signed off on that deal needs reprimanding as

it looks a waste of £55m.

 

It doesn’t. Especially not your way we’ve spent it. 

[Famous Nick]

Very worried now, especially that tactically many lesser sides/squads/managers are solving problems Howe cannot currently and finding him out. and the form of players also mediocre. Elanga as a signing was expected to give us a lift, but is he trying to get 0+0 in G+A?

Wissa nowhere to be seen.

Defending shambles,, conceding a lot, creating little.

 

we need an incredible turn of events in form, tactics, mentality so we can fight for CL places by April comes around.

 

going to WHU and Brentford and get nothing is a joke.

 

City home, Marseille away, Everton away on next three. I dont think there is one win in that 3 games.

 

we dont that that nice little extra 1 week rest between each game we had last season and helped us a lot. even if we do well in midweek CL game , our energy level are fucked by the weekend.

 

[Keggy_Keagal]

4 years . 1 saving from a certain relegation. 2 Champions League Qualifications. 2 Cup Finals. One Trophy. Howay The Lads. Howay Eddie Howe.  

[Heron]

16 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

Imo Villa and Leeds at the start of the season was also there for the taking. Villa was horrible in the first few games, and Leeds aren't great, but we made it easy for them. We can talk about how difficult away games are, but winning some tough away games every now and then should be an expectation.

 

 

 

A desirable rather than an expectation. Beating the likes of Villa away is good for any side in the division. The only ones expecting that should be those hunting down the title, even then it's not a foregone conclusion.

 

We didn't have a striker at Leeds, but yeah, I'd agree that was pretty piss poor.

[TheBrownBottle]

I completely agree with those pointing out that having our fullbacks out fundamentally changes the way the side operates.

 

I question how that shields Howe from culpability - presumably he knows this too, and surely he noticed that Hall was already out when the season started, and that starting the season with one FB who can operate as you need might leave you short - and it might be worth considering when you’re out spending almost a quarter of a billion quid in the transfer market?

 

This is his squad I’m looking at - the Ashley / Bruce era is a fair way into the past.  Howe needs to find solutions from the squad he built.   I think he will, but failure is on him, just as success is. 

[duo]

The issue is Eddie doesn't have the players available for the system he wants to play but atm we seem to have lost all our identity - gone is the quick press, gone is the quick counters.  The team look disjointed and out of ideas.  He needs to find a way to adapt a system with the players we have available.

[HawK]

Livra + Hall for £60m  ~

 

Elanga for £55m ~

 

It was good to pile on our first rat at the time but Ashworth oversaw some very good business for us.

[The Prophet]

We're way too easy to play against at the moment, particularly when we have the lead.

 

Even players like Burn and Bruno are so passive, it has to be a mentality issue.

[TheBrownBottle]

2 minutes ago, duo said:

The issue is Eddie doesn't have the players available for the system he wants to play but atm we seem to have lost all our identity - gone is the quick press, gone is the quick counters.  The team look disjointed and out of ideas.  He needs to find a way to adapt a system with the players we have available.

We’re short two full backs and a centre forward.  The squad hasn’t been decimated by injuries and tough fixture pile-ups.  He still isn’t rotating. 

[The Prophet]

1 minute ago, HawK said:

Livra + Hall for £60m  ~

 

Elanga for £55m ~

 

It was good to pile on our first rat at the time but Ashworth oversaw some very good business for us.

 

Aye, but Hall took twelve months to bed in. During that time plenty discussed sending him back to Chelsea.

[LaurentRobert]

The same people banging the Eddie Howe out drum after the Brentford away game last season have perked up today. Imagine if we listened to them last season and sacked him then? It would have been a disaster!

 

Everyone take a deep breath. We're 6th in the Champions League, have a striker who scored 19 goals from open play last season returning soon , and Englands two best full backs also returning which should help with the balance of the team.

 

Yes, Eddie Howe has had a shocker today, but his track record with us has been incredible. He deserves the rest of the season to try and sort this mess out. Keep the faith

 

 

Edited November 9, 2025 by LaurentRobert

[Erikse]

15 minutes ago, Heron said:

A desirable rather than an expectation. Beating the likes of Villa away is good for any side in the division. The only ones expecting that should be those hunting down the title, even then it's not a foregone conclusion.

 

We didn't have a striker at Leeds, but yeah, I'd agree that was pretty piss poor.

 

As good as our last season was, our away record was on par with or worse than Palace, Brounemouth, Fulham, Forest and Brighton. This season we are currently 15th in the away table from 6 games when half the league has played 5, and the strongest team that we have faced so far is Villa (who was far from their best). Only 3 other teams has 0 away wins. I don't know about you, but I expect us to have a better away record than most of the regular mid table teams, given our spending power compared to them. Even mid table teams gets some wins in these "tough" away from home games. No reason to dress it up.

 

 

Edited November 9, 2025 by Erikse

[KaKa]

Until we are in position to start at least one of Hall or Tino, and ideally both, the team apparently cannot progress the ball forward.

 

I'm not sure Howe realised how poor we'd be with both Trippier and Burn at full back. The real worry would be if he still doesn't see the issue, and doesn't look to improve the options there in January.

 

Brentford weren't even really pressing, or playing with any real intensity and the use of the ball from Burn and Trippier was just awful, and invited so much pressure.

 

As long as those two are starting at full back, I don't see anything changing at all. 

 

It's going to be interesting because these are two guys Howe thinks highly of, but they just can't get the job done in those positions.

 

Howe is going to have to get them out of the team or change the formation to better accommodate Burn at least.

[Whitley mag]

14 minutes ago, Vinny Green Balls said:

Also did you forget the 17-18 season? A fair few on here were calling for Rafa’s head in December and January.

Think Martin Hardy wrote an article in the Times that his job was in danger at the time.

 

All managers are capable of shit spells and the best will find a way out the other side.

 

I think this is the first real test for Howe at Newcastle, summer business that he overseen is rightly being questioned and for the first time the team

doesn’t seem to have any direction under him.

 

At the very least he needs to steady the ship between now and Xmas. Some tricky fixtures coming up and the pressure will continue to mount if we don’t pick up results quickly.

 

Could go either way for me, he either goes on a run boosted by Wissa’s imminent return, or are we going to see the Howe at Bournemouth who ran out of steam. How much did the illness take out of him earlier in the year, easy to forget he was hospitalised.

 

I do think the fans need to back him to the hilt in next few matches though, we’ve had a great 4 years and it’s time for the fans to stand up and be counted now when things aren’t going so well.

 

 

[Ronaldo]

You can’t help but feel for him even if a lot of this is down to his stubbornness and limitations.

 

With the next 2 fixtures it’s likely to get a lot more toxic, too.

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, LaurentRobert said:

The same people banging the Eddie Howe out drum after the Brentford away game last season have perked up today. Imagine if we listened to them last season and sacked him then? It woulf have been a disaster!

 

Everyone take a deep breath. We're 6th in the Champions League, have a striker who scored 19 goals from open play last season returning soon and Englands two best full backs also returning which should help with the balance of team.

 

Yes, Eddie Howe has had a shocker today, but his track record with us has been incredible. He deserves the rest of the season to try and sort this mess out. Keep the faith

Other than a troll or two there are literally no one who has said they want him out. Everyone are massively concerned though, and if you’re not I’d either question your sight or your care for the club. 

[HawK]

10 minutes ago, LaurentRobert said:

The same people banging the Eddie Howe out drum after the Brentford away game last season have perked up today. Imagine if we listened to them last season and sacked him then? It woulf have been a disaster!

 

Everyone take a deep breath. We're 6th in the Champions League, have a striker who scored 19 goals from open play last season returning soon and Englands two best full backs also returning which should help with the balance of team.

 

Yes, Eddie Howe has had a shocker today, but his track record with us has been incredible. He deserves the rest of the season to try and sort this mess out. Keep the faith

 

Don't think anyone has said he needs sacking 

[duo]

10 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

We’re short two full backs and a centre forward.  The squad hasn’t been decimated by injuries and tough fixture pile-ups.  He still isn’t rotating. 

They are keys areas in the team though - especially in the CF role.  Midfield isn't firing either - Joelinton isn't the enforcer he once was. Teams just seem to pass straight through us. Throw in Gordon being out of form and Elanga not yet hitting the ground running - Eddie has issues throughout.

[Gallowgate Toon]

We had a lot of these issues in streaks with Isak. He was class in games where we committed to counter as well as playing against the bottom 3 dross, but we were often totally lacking in cohesion when we were against competent mid-block teams. 

[HawK]

12 minutes ago, LaurentRobert said:

The same people banging the Eddie Howe out drum after the Brentford away game last season have perked up today. Imagine if we listened to them last season and sacked him then? It woulf have been a disaster!

 

Everyone take a deep breath. We're 6th in the Champions League, have a striker who scored 19 goals from open play last season returning soon and Englands two best full backs also returning which should help with the balance of team.

 

Yes, Eddie Howe has had a shocker today, but his track record with us has been incredible. He deserves the rest of the season to try and sort this mess out. Keep the faith

 

Sorry I can't stand these types of strawman posts, creating hyperbolic fiction to condemn down to generate likes. At least make a point, we're discussing where Howe can improve and accountability.

[TheBrownBottle]

2 minutes ago, duo said:

They are keys areas in the team though - especially in the CF role.  Midfield isn't firing either - Joelinton isn't the enforcer he once was. Teams just seem to pass straight through us. Throw in Gordon being out of form and Elanga not yet hitting the ground running - Eddie has issues throughout.

Agreed - the midfield hasn’t been close to good enough.  Joelinton just isn’t a particularly good midfielder - but even more importantly I think our other two are not difficult to play against at the moment.