Theregulars Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 43 minutes ago, Tonalis Bookie said: I think youve summed it up. if you achieve a trophy or one of the best things available i.e promotion, you were successful. Keegan had a successful season when we were promoted so yes he was a success. if we just look at his seasons where we failed to win the league then no he wasnt successful, he failed I don't see whats difficult here? if you win, you are, if you lose, you arent It’s not difficult, it just felt appropriate to take the opportunity to try and show you why it’s a ludicrous approach to take and once which neuters much of the joy inherent in the game. I will trade 2nd / 3rd in the league over winning the league below every single time offered Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 1 minute ago, Theregulars said: It’s not difficult, it just felt appropriate to take the opportunity to try and show you why it’s a ludicrous approach to take and once which neuters much of the joy inherent in the game. I will trade 2nd / 3rd in the league over winning the league below every single time offered As would i, but i will never see finishing second as success. Nobody plays a game to finish second, thats just first loser Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 2 hours ago, Tonalis Bookie said: If he didn't win anything, he failed. Any manager who doesnt achieve what the aim of football is should be deemed to have failed, no matter the level Everyone but Howe has "failed at this club" then. Keegan and SBR won fuck all. legends to me. as is Rafa. But Roeder was also a club captain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 I've binned my copy of Cool Runnings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said: I'm hearing reports that success in competitive sports is relative, subjective and contextual. Next week, rocket science. Exactly. Imagine your critical thinking skills failing you to this degree. Keegan turned a team that nearly got relegated into one of the top sides in the country within a few years, but if he'd finished 2nd in 92/93 his time would need to be judged a failure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 20, 2025 Share Posted November 20, 2025 2 minutes ago, Interpolic said: Exactly. Imagine your critical thinking skills failing you to this degree. Keegan turned a team that nearly got relegated into one of the top sides in the country within a few years, but if he'd finished 2nd in 92/93 his time would need to be judged a failure. Would be interesting to know if there are any Bournemouth fans who consider the man who took them from Minus 17 in League Two to 9th in the Premier League in 7 seasons like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 So every England manager who has won a qualifier has been a success? As they achieved the maximum that they could in the qualifier? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 Does this success/failure thing apply to other parts of life, as well? Like your job? Unless you make it to the top of company you’re a failure? Or if you’re self-employed and you don’t have the most successful business in that field in the area. Then you’ve failed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 7 hours ago, Lush Vlad said: Does this success/failure thing apply to other parts of life, as well? Like your job? Unless you make it to the top of company you’re a failure? Or if you’re self-employed and you don’t have the most successful business in that field in the area. Then you’ve failed? Yes, youve had some achievements, but you never fully succeeded Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 17 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: Would be interesting to know if there are any Bournemouth fans who consider the man who took them from Minus 17 in League Two to 9th in the Premier League in 7 seasons like. I said Keegan had a success and was successful as he achieved what he needed to early on. His work in the premier league was a failure though. We didnt win anything. If youre content not finishing first then thats probably why we have been where we have for so long. Just like with our stadium, people love to cling to mediocrity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 What a thoroughly depressing, myopic view on life you must go through life just thinking you and almost everyone else you know are failures then? You should be kinder to yourself and others, man To each their own and all that. Just seems incredibly baffling to me to think like that. Basically no context or viewing success as something that is relative. Must mean about less than 0.1% of the world’s population are successes then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 Is Tonalis Bookie just a troll that has remained undercover until now? Doubling and tripling down on this stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 Just now, Lush Vlad said: What a thoroughly depressing, myopic view on life you must go through life just thinking you and almost everyone else you know are failures then? You should be kinder to yourself and others, man To each their own and all that. Just seems incredibly baffling to me to think like that. Basically no context or viewing success as something that is relative. Must mean about less than 0.1% of the world’s population are successes then? Yep you are 100% right in your assessment, cant deny that. I achieved a masters from the best private law school in the country. I didnt finish top of the class so i dont consider that to be a success, its a minor achievement amongst a failure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 Jesus Christ. Go and talk to someone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 1 minute ago, Tonalis Bookie said: Yep you are 100% right in your assessment, cant deny that. I achieved a masters from the best private law school in the country. I didnt finish top of the class so i dont consider that to be a success, its a minor achievement amongst a failure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 13 minutes ago, Tonalis Bookie said: I said Keegan had a success and was successful as he achieved what he needed to early on. His work in the premier league was a failure though. We didnt win anything. If youre content not finishing first then thats probably why we have been where we have for so long. Just like with our stadium, people love to cling to mediocrity Yeah, that'll be why. I think really, more accurately it's something more like If you make posts like this, that's probably why everyone thinks you're a silly goose that shouldn't be taken seriously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 11 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Is Tonalis Bookie just a troll that has remained undercover until now? Doubling and tripling down on this stuff. Choice of username should've made it obvious really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 12 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Is Tonalis Bookie just a troll that has remained undercover until now? Doubling and tripling down on this stuff. Haha no Ive been on since 2007 except for a few months when i had to delete my account due to the failed FIFA intermediary rules. I think I'm now just becoming miserable as i get older Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 Just now, LiquidAK said: Choice of username should've made it obvious really I dunno. Quite a daft, amusing name I thought. But chuck in some of these mad posts and it’s all a bit: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 2 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: I dunno. Quite a daft, amusing name I thought. But chuck in some of these mad posts and it’s all a bit: Nono, no trolling. I think I've put it before but before Dave left we were putting in place to have this place as the first forum to officially break a premier league transfer. We were close on 2 of them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 1 hour ago, Tonalis Bookie said: Yep you are 100% right in your assessment, cant deny that. I achieved a masters from the best private law school in the country. I didnt finish top of the class so i dont consider that to be a success, its a minor achievement amongst a failure. I hope you're a troll overall. Otherwise you must be an event horizon for the joy of people around you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 Humour me what’s the best private law school in the country? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 2 hours ago, Tonalis Bookie said: Yes, youve had some achievements, but you never fully succeeded Well by your own standards you’ve definitely failed as a rational poster on here then 🤦🏻 FML Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted November 21, 2025 Share Posted November 21, 2025 1 hour ago, Tonalis Bookie said: Nono, no trolling. I think I've put it before but before Dave left we were putting in place to have this place as the first forum to officially break a premier league transfer. We were close on 2 of them WWYPU Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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