TheBrownBottle Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, The Butcher said: Said it before, but I think a few new ideas on the training ground could save him. Sack Jones or JT or whatever and bring in someone new. Yep, this is where I am - he needs to refresh his coaching staff, or he might find he’s out of the door with them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 The question any board should be asking is “is there anyone in the world we could attract who could do a better job for the football club going forward in the short, medium and long term”. Unless things improve pretty drastically pretty quickly, it is hard to be sure there isn’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 We all suspected deep down that Howe would only have the ability and pedigree to take us to a certain point, overall he's been incredible for us, and we all love him and respect him dearly for what he's done. I think the time has come to start thinking about a succession plan here at least from those above, players are regressing left and right, we all of a sudden have a really soft underbelly, there's a lack of fight and desire, the players never look like they quite fancy it when it becomes physical, this has been going on since the end of last season, it's not a knee jerk reaction, we've been getting progressively worse, we never come from behind and get anything, at all, ever. Then you top it off with that derby performance, which might honestly be the softest derby performance I've seen in my lifetime, on top of a total lack of ideas from top to bottom. When one or two players are underpeforming it can be put down to form or bad luck, but when it's an entire team, the manager is the problem and he's not solving it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 £90m wasted on two duds, one of which is the worst player NUFC have ever bought, considering the outlay. Questionable team selections and terrible in game management. Now an insipid derby performance. He's had the longest honeymoon period but it's finally over after today. He will have lost a section of the fanbase now and he can have no complaints. We need a serious rebuild and it's very doubtful if he should be the man to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 7 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Sparing a thought for @Dokkowho might actually have keeled over Didn't he say he's finished with football as a whole if they win today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 PIF have already pulled the women's manager. The five year plan is set at getting top level European football every season. I would not be surprised if he's gone very soon as this can't continue, and he doesn't seem to have a clue at resolving any of the issues this season. Get beat off Chelsea and there is a strong chance he could be away. This can't continue and that cowardly set up today will have been the final straw for many. It's just not acceptable. That set up, game plan, game management was unacceptable. As I said earlier absolute coward Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Poll open again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 2 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said: How much credit does he still have in the bank amongst the fans? I think he's losing a lot, we don't look at it and nearly halfway through the season. Not like we are just shit against the best sides either, we haven't looked convincing in many games and have lost something and isn't just the striker it's whatever style we are trying to play, just not working and he's not changing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, Gawalls said: Didn't he say he's finished with football as a whole if they win today? I'm not sure but I hope he doesnt. Going out on a Sunderland loss would be as pathetic as that performance today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Won't defend him today. He is leading a team this season which just isn't very good. There's mitigation and I'll always believe that - regardless of who we signed - the Isak thing was the rug being pulled for so many reasons. But ultimately he's still accountable and we just aren't getting better. I can't believe how bad that performance was today. Adore him, he's a legend, but starting to wonder. Very well written and right on the money for me. I'll add. I'm not sure whether Eddie has the ability to manage well in a season with UCL. I think if we had 1 game a week and training time we'd look far more cohesive, but we don't have that luxury. Edited December 14, 2025 by Casey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 (edited) Eddie is still the goat for me but please fucking make changes quicker for christ sake. That was so bloody obvious it wasn't working. Edited December 14, 2025 by El Prontonise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, r0cafella said: I'm not sure but I hope he doesnt. Going out on a Sunderland loss would be as pathetic as that performance today. Somebody did, can't remember who Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Nowt like an overreaction lads. I have an alternative… we beat Fulham and Chelsea at home this week and all of sudden everything is back on track. We know it’s a transition season… do we really need to throw shit around after every negative performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, Elric said: Poll open again I’ve voted no, again. But this can’t carry on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 I just don’t get why we started the way like we begged for a draw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Ney chance we're getting CL on this form. Eddie needs to go back to basics as we're not good enough to play a possession based game - we can barely string two passes together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Cherry Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, Shadow Puppets said: Nowt like an overreaction lads. I have an alternative… we beat Fulham and Chelsea at home this week and all of sudden everything is back on track. We know it’s a transition season… do we really need to throw shit around after every negative performance. Problem is, most performances are negative these days. It's not good enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 2 minutes ago, Wandy said: £90m wasted on two duds, one of which is the worst player NUFC have ever bought, considering the outlay. Questionable team selections and terrible in game management. Now an insipid derby performance. He's had the longest honeymoon period but it's finally over after today. He will have lost a section of the fanbase now and he can have no complaints. We need a serious rebuild and it's very doubtful if he should be the man to do it. Elanga is fucking terrible and tbf I thought he would be decent, worst right winger we have had. Gordon looks like he's lost something as well. We have some good players though and can't seem to evolve as a team, right now we are going backwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 I want to make it very clear by the way - it's not the result today, it's the nature of the performance. If that was any other manager in our history, there'd be knives out in a big way. Yes, Eddie won the cup and has been brilliant for us and therefore is rightly awarded a level of understanding way ahead of those other managers. But that shit today cuts right though it IMO, especially with the other away day shit shows we've endured this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, El Prontonise said: Eddie is still the goat for me but please fucking make changes quicker for Christ sake. That was so bloody obvious it wasn't working. It was the 55th min today, plenty of time to get moving. The biggest issue for me is the lack of heart and desire from some of them today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, Shadow Puppets said: Nowt like an overreaction lads. get fucked please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 (edited) 1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said: I’ve voted no, again. But this can’t carry on. ^ see my pic on the last page *now like 5 pages ago holy shit Edited December 14, 2025 by Elric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 3 minutes ago, Tiotes Witch Doctor said: We all suspected deep down that Howe would only have the ability and pedigree to take us to a certain point, overall he's been incredible for us, and we all love him and respect him dearly for what he's done. I think the time has come to start thinking about a succession plan here at least from those above, players are regressing left and right, we all of a sudden have a really soft underbelly, there's a lack of fight and desire, the players never look like they quite fancy it when it becomes physical, this has been going on since the end of last season, it's not a knee jerk reaction, we've been getting progressively worse, we never come from behind and get anything, at all, ever. Then you top it off with that derby performance, which might honestly be the softest derby performance I've seen in my lifetime, on top of a total lack of ideas from top to bottom. When one or two players are underpeforming it can be put down to form or bad luck, but when it's an entire team, the manager is the problem and he's not solving it. Even IF we wanted to replace him ( I'm not saying we should) We've hired a no mark from forest to do it. I have very little faith at present tbh. I think we lack competency throughout the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, Pilko said: get fucked please. No. You’re all actually mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, Shadow Puppets said: Nowt like an overreaction lads. I have an alternative… we beat Fulham and Chelsea at home this week and all of sudden everything is back on track. We know it’s a transition season… do we really need to throw shit around after every negative performance. I’ve been saying for yonks that if the insipid away performances carry on through to SAFC, folks will turn- and quickly. Can’t say I blame them after that performance. Far too early to sack him for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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