Shadow Puppets Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, et tu brute said: Of course it is, based on the five year plan they announced also. They recently got rid of the women's manager for under performing, so I really think people are kidding themselves if they think they will allow this season's shit show to continue for much longer It’s not really a shit-show though, is it? A win or two in the league puts us back into the mix for top 6, we’re very likely to qualify for the CL playoffs, and we’re a game away from another cup semi final. It’s nowhere near a “shitshow”. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, Ketsbaia said: Beginning of the end (hopefully). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Not blaming any individual player but the midfield just isn’t working either as a defensive shield or a platform to generate chances. Not sure if it’s fatigue, tactical or what but the ‘best midfield 3 in the PL’ was always a stretch but now it’s a joke. Howe needs to get to grips with this issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 3 minutes ago, nemtizz said: Why can't we criticise him without it devolving into this If you want him to sacked surely you've someone in mind who you want to replace him? The man was dealt a shit hand in the Summer, no DOF, no CEO, Isak running our pre-season. Eddie was the only one holding things together. And we're still feeling the effects of the Summer - we've ended up buying a striker who didn't fit out style of play. And without a pre-season Eddie is trying to find a tactic to get the best out of him. He's not found the answer to that puzzle yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, Ketsbaia said: Beginning of the end (hopefully). Worst post of the year, and that’s saying something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said: All of those listed are in no way better that Eddie though, are they? You’re just listing well known managers. Despite the fact they’ve won leagues and continental cups? Eddie’s been a terrific manager but the idea that he alone can manage this club is silly bordering on delusional. Edited December 14, 2025 by Deuce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 8 minutes ago, nemtizz said: Why can't we criticise him without it evolving into this Exactly, I want him to stay, but things are clearly not good enough at the moment. He did amazing to get us that cup win, but sadly I see few signs of him being the man to take us to that next level (competing in Europe and the Prem every season). I’d give him the backing in the Jan window and then assess things at the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, El Prontonise said: Btw the 2 things can be true, you love Eddie Howe but are concerned about this season and pissed off at today. It isn’t just today though. It’s all the capitulating. The loss of everything that made us a good side. That wasn’t all resting on Isak. Managers just sometimes run out of steam, and their ideas no longer work or the players aren’t buying into it, which I suspect is also the case here. We have players who would bleed for this club but we also have some who just seem like they are waiting for an offer elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 I love Eddie Howe and all he’s given us but it does feel like the end of the road Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 He’s smarter than I am, but listening to his post match interview you want to give him a proper shake to wake him up. I know it’s his style to be measured and strategic in what he says to the press, but you just want a bit of emotion out of him. it’s infuriating in this moment 😅 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, Pilko said: It's not meant to be ultra-derogatory but he seems immune to poor performances and trusted as a key player despite delivering fuck all outside of Europe in a calendar year. Barnes not starting today was a disgraceful call IMO. I get that, but it's lazy homophobia. Don't think you'd say it from a place of hate but there are a million better ways to say that Gordon gets too much grace from the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 (edited) He's created the greatest moments of my life supporting this club but can we please ignore the couple plebs that want him gone and focus on criticising him instead? Edited December 14, 2025 by nemtizz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, Deuce said: Despite the fact they’ve won leagues and continental cups? Eddie’s been a terrific manager but the idea he that he alone can manage this club is silly bordering on delusional. Yeap, no manager is ever bigger than the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 I've abstained from voting in the poll as I'm just not sure what is best for the club at the moment. He's turned it around quite a few times before but it feels worse this time and to an extent like he's lost the players, or at least that they aren't running through brick walls for him like they used to. In seasons gone, I could never imagine a derby game under Howe looking so flat. Where has the team gone that used to go away to the likes of Arsenal and get right up in their faces? Why are we so passive and negative? When you look at the players available to us today, we should be controlling the game. Or at least trying to - granted it doesn't always work like that in a derby, but we genuinely didn't even try to push up the pitch as a unit. We attacked in twos and threes at best. Where has that fear come from? This is the closest I've felt myself to turning against him, and I can see why other people have. This is the one where we really couldn't fail to turn up, but it's arguably the worst of a bad bunch of away performances this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, Deuce said: Despite the fact they’ve won leagues and continental cups? Eddie’s been a terrific manager but the idea he that he alone can manage this club is silly bordering on delusional. They’ve won leagues and continental cups with considerably bigger / better squads. There’s zero evidence that any of them would be an improvement for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, duo said: Emery ain't leaving Villa and Poche is overrated imo. The only real upgrade for me would be someone like Luis Enrique but zero chance of that happening. Poche got spurs to a CL final and semi final and four consecutive premiere league top four finishes - they hadn't got two seasons leading up to him taking the job. At Chelsea even though they sacked him he took a club in turmoil the season before that finished 12th up to finish sixth and got them two cup finals and a semi final. At Southampton he took a team that was finishing in bottom half to 8th, getting them there highest points finish and premiere League finish I think whilst getting a reputation for bringing on their talent, working with players like Luke Shaw to bring them through. Overrated is subjective but I think he could take us on to the next level, totally understand why others don't think this though as he's won very little and his Chelsea time was only half good. Emery - you never know if you don't ask, villa are doing well but their skint and he may see us as a bigger project, last time we approached him we'd proven nothing and were rock bottom, you just never know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keggy_Keagal Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 This is starting to smell like when people were thinking Sir Bobby wasn't up to it and then we got Souness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 4 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I thought neither team really played any football. Wouldn’t say we controlled it but they didn’t either. It was very poor attacking from both sides. And we can’t keep possession as we know. Oh we certainly have that pattern of the defenders playing it out wide, winger checking his run, passing it either to the middle (and we get pressed forcing it back to the defenders) or we just pass straight back and try the other wing for the same result. We could literally do that all 90 mins and draw every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Nowt like losing a derby and then logging on to see we should appoint Klopp, Real Madrid or England's manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewboy74 Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 (edited) 9 minutes ago, 1892er said: Not sure I agree but Le Bris seemed to motivate his players more that's for sure. The second we had the ball, they were on us. I genuinely believe the difference was effort. I can't believe how little we pressed or tried. Lacklustre from the first minute. It was the lack of press again for me. Poor all round and fucking devastating to listen to the shite patter that's in front of me! Edited December 14, 2025 by Drewboy74 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 2 minutes ago, Andy said: I've abstained from voting in the poll as I'm just not sure what is best for the club at the moment. He's turned it around quite a few times before but it feels worse this time and to an extent like he's lost the players, or at least that they aren't running through brick walls for him like they used to. In seasons gone, I could never imagine a derby game under Howe looking so flat. Where has the team gone that used to go away to the likes of Arsenal and get right up in their faces? Why are we so passive and negative? When you look at the players available to us today, we should be controlling the game. Or at least trying to - granted it doesn't always work like that in a derby, but we genuinely didn't even try to push up the pitch as a unit. We attacked in twos and threes at best. Where has that fear come from? This is the closest I've felt myself to turning against him, and I can see why other people have. This is the one where we really couldn't fail to turn up, but it's arguably the worst of a bad bunch of away performances this season. Exactly where I'm at, the poll needs a not sure option Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 Just now, gdm said: I love Eddie Howe and all he’s given us but it does feel like the end of the road Our performances Aug to Dec as I said after the Leverkusen game have been well below standard Recruitment has been an issue - so many players underperforming - tactics are non existent - pressing/passing/set pieces not good We are in a rut and in need of some form of boost but I don’t see where it’s coming from Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 3 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said: It’s not really a shit-show though, is it? A win or two in the league puts us back into the mix for top 6, we’re very likely to qualify for the CL playoffs, and we’re a game away from another cup semi final. It’s nowhere near a “shitshow”. You’re becoming propaganda at this point. We’ve thus far been incredibly poor in the league with a few wins over utter shit at home (and City) padding it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, Andy said: He's turned it around quite a few times I truly hope he does so again, but at a certain point you have to ask why we’re constantly having to turn things around. Why can’t we come out the gates in the lead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted December 14, 2025 Share Posted December 14, 2025 1 minute ago, Keggy_Keagal said: This is starting to smell like when people were thinking Sir Bobby wasn't up to it and then we got Souness. Can we please not resort to labelling people that have an opinion as idiots FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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