High Five o Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Just as well you're not our manager then. I think everyone is very happy I am not. Great comeback 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Joel Inton Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, Vinny Green Balls said: because our results have often been dog shit. I can understand the visible frustration Possibly. It was there when we were winning too. 2 years ago you’d never see someone flailing their arms at a misplaced pass but I’ve seen it a lot this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 1 minute ago, Sir Joel Inton said: Possibly. It was there when we were winning too. 2 years ago you’d never see someone flailing their arms at a misplaced pass but I’ve seen it a lot this season. thikn we've often seen it from Gordon. And Isak did it all the time Edited February 4 by Vinny Green Balls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 5 minutes ago, huss9 said: Plenty of tickets on general sale. Every cloud.... Not really. Who's parting with 70 quid to watch this lot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 3 minutes ago, High Five o said: I think everyone is very happy I am not. Great comeback 👍 It wasnt meant as a "comeback", squabbling is childish. I just think what you've said isnt a good idea, and I think this 2nd half proves it. And he made 3 more changes at HT so he is using the squad. Edited February 4 by Super Duper Branko Strupar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 I said it earlier in the season, but it does feel like it's slowly coming to an end. It happens with (almost) all managers. It's just the way it is. There's still time to turn it around ofc. Again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 The thing is about long term management is that inevitably, the football suffers. You constantly have to find new and erotic ways of spicing things up on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 9 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: It wasnt meant as a "comeback", squabbling is childish. I just think what you've said isnt a good idea, and I think this 2nd half proves it. And he made 3 more changes at HT so he is using the squad. Sorry, I might took it wrong way. So no worries. I understand your reasoning, I just think it’s to shortsighted and we need to rest when we can. If we lose 3-0 or 3-2 does not really matter, if you ask me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, High Five o said: Sorry, I might took it wrong way. So no worries. I understand your reasoning, I just think it’s to shortsighted and we need to rest when we can. If we lose 3-0 or 3-2 does not really matter, if you ask me. think it matters going into the next game with a bit of confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, The Butcher said: I said it earlier in the season, but it does feel like it's slowly coming to an end. It happens with (almost) all managers. It's just the way it is. There's still time to turn it around ofc. Again. Every team has ups and downs. Even teams being managed by elite managers. Howe has transformed us in a short space of time, almost too quickly. His success is working against him now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, dcmk said: Every team has ups and downs. Even teams being managed by elite managers. Howe has transformed us in a short space of time, almost too quickly. His success is working against him now. I agree We got the recruitment mostly right for so long, but this summer really killed us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 12 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: The thing is about long term management is that inevitably, the football suffers. You constantly have to find new and erotic ways of spicing things up on the pitch. Which is what Pep has done so well and why he’s probably the best there has ever been. Unfortunately there’s only one of him. i feel like we got Eddie at exactly the right time - he’d spent time out of the game studying and learning from some of the best around. But he’s clearly not very good at learning on the job, and what used to be highly effective no longer is. Feels like he needs another spell out of the game to learn some new tricks. Edited February 4 by Holmesy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 51 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: The other squad that's out there was already the best one around before spending over 500m on it this year alone. That wasn't the point, it's hardly "forced on him" most of them are players he wanted and signed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, Vinny Green Balls said: think it matters going into the next game with a bit of confidence. I really doubt professional athletes gains a world of confidence having lost 5-1 in a knockout fixture against a side barely out off 2 gear in the second half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, dcmk said: Every team has ups and downs. Even teams being managed by elite managers. Howe has transformed us in a short space of time, almost too quickly. His success is working against him now. And 200 million worth of transfers not quite working out. Yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 13 minutes ago, The Butcher said: I said it earlier in the season, but it does feel like it's slowly coming to an end. It happens with (almost) all managers. It's just the way it is. There's still time to turn it around ofc. Again. I feel similar. I love Eddie. I love everything he’s done for the club. But I think maybe we’re starting to find his ceiling. It’s possible he’s simply just a very gifted fixer upper, absolutely brilliant at polishing a turd over the short and mid term. Like he did here and at Bournemouth. And the demands of long term multi-competition management of an ambitious top flight club are just a step too far for a self confessed meticulous control freak workaholic. Can’t be arsed to search for it but am sure the Bournemouth fan who gets on here said it was his reluctance to adapt and his need to control everything that meant he hit a ceiling which was ultimately his downfall. He fixed some of his failings by having some time out of the game, but it feels like they’re coming back to haunt him again. Edited February 4 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 After finally getting a bit of stability what the club should really do is piss it all down the drain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, dcmk said: Every team has ups and downs. Even teams being managed by elite managers. Howe has transformed us in a short space of time, almost too quickly. His success is working against him now. Not a pop at you kidda but this whole "elite manager" schtick is bollox. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, Tiotes Witch Doctor said: That wasn't the point, it's hardly "forced on him" most of them are players he wanted and signed. Being effectively our stand in DoF and with no CEO was forced on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, bobbydazzla said: I feel similar. I love Eddie. I love everything he’s done for the club. But I think maybe we’re starting to find his ceiling. It’s possible he’s simply just a very gifted fixer upper, absolutely brilliant at polishing a turd over the short and mid term. Like he did here and at Bournemouth. And the demands of long term multi-competition management of an ambitious top flight club are just a step too far for a self confessed meticulous control freak. or this is a blip in his otherwise upward trajctory. We aren't even through with this season. Just not enough data points to say he's found his ceiling...especially after giving us our best season in recent memory. And 23/24 wasn't nearly as bad as people say. 60 points would likely get us comfortably into Europe this season. We've got 14 games to get 27 points, and Howe usually has finished the final third relatively strong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Here we go....brace yourself Howe loyalists... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: I feel similar. I love Eddie. I love everything he’s done for the club. But I think maybe we’re starting to find his ceiling. It’s possible he’s simply just a very gifted fixer upper, absolutely brilliant at polishing a turd over the short and mid term. Like he did here and at Bournemouth. And the demands of long term multi-competition management of an ambitious top flight club are just a step too far for a self confessed meticulous control freak. Our wage budget hinders a team like us to compete, in multiple competitions, with teams who have literally 3/4x more revenue than us. It's not an even playing field. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Being effectively our stand in DoF and with no CEO was forced on him. Yawn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, Vinny Green Balls said: or this is a blip in his otherwise upward trajctory. We aren't even through with this season. Just not enough data points to say he's found his ceiling...especially after giving us our best season in recent memory. And 23/24 wasn't nearly as bad as people say. 60 points would likely get us comfortably into Europe this season. We've got 14 games to get 27 points, and Howe usually has finished the final third relatively strong. True, but seeing as we've got to go to Chelsea, Arsenal and Man City that may well end up as 27 points from 11 games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, Tiotes Witch Doctor said: Yawn. Is it not true? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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