Eddie Howe

[The College Dropout]

You lot are barmy.

 

Liam Rosenior is doing well enough - he must be excellent at coaching a side in European competition.

 

OR

 

Chelsea have a quality squad which allows him to rotate better.

 

Yesterday was clear as day - this squad lacks quality to play as many games as we have in the competitions we are in. Eddie doesn't have the squad. It's not good enough.

[healthyaddiction]

Just now, The College Dropout said:

You lot are barmy.

 

Liam Rosenior is doing well enough - he must be excellent at coaching a side in European competition.

 

OR

 

Chelsea have a quality squad which allows him to rotate better.

 

Yesterday was clear as day - this squad lacks quality to play as many games as we have in the competitions we are in. Eddie doesn't have the squad. It's not good enough.

Or... new manager bounce.

[RS]

Football fans know fuck all do they?  Knocked out of a semi final by the richest club in the world. Won our first trophy in decades. Regular European competition.  Managerial stability for the first time since Robson (same people wanting Eddie out probably wanted Robson out)

This is the best ran most successful Newcastle has been in my 50 years of attending games (entertainers diatribe included). 

[wyn davies]

Said months ago Eddie aint the guy to carry us forward, chickens comming home to roost. Should of went prior to the last international break, would of allowed the new manager to evaluate and see the requirements for the January window,now we are up shit creek without a paddle.

Only came back in as I could no longer put up with all the bull that Eddies the man when he aint, will now dissapear.

[The College Dropout]

2 hours ago, Earp said:

I don’t think people thought that the transfers were underwhelming at the time. Despite losing out on our number 1 targets fans were genuinely pleased with the transfer business at the time. Unfortunately it hasn’t worked out as hoped, but hindsight is a wonderful thing. 

You can look at the thread and each players early pages on their thread. Most were meh on most signings.

 

I didn't think - yeh this is a squad that can play in the CL, go deep in domestic cups and challenge for top 5 again. We finished 5th with the second best striker in the league and what will be at least 10 high-level games less. I didn't thinik Jacob Ramsey, Thiaw, Woltemade & Wissa would be enough to close that gap at all. I thought we could finish 8th with no complaints.

[Wilson]

2 minutes ago, wyn davies said:

will now dissapear.

 

Can I get a hallelujah. 

[Earp]

9 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

You can look at the thread and each players early pages on their thread. Most were meh on most signings.

 

I didn't think - yeh this is a squad that can play in the CL, go deep in domestic cups and challenge for top 5 again. We finished 5th with the second best striker in the league and what will be at least 10 high-level games less. I didn't thinik Jacob Ramsey, Thiaw, Woltemade & Wissa would be enough to close that gap at all. I thought we could finish 8th with no complaints.

I think many people did. 

[Choppy Chop Chop]

11 minutes ago, wyn davies said:

Said months ago Eddie aint the guy to carry us forward, chickens comming home to roost. Should of went prior to the last international break, would of allowed the new manager to evaluate and see the requirements for the January window,now we are up shit creek without a paddle.

Only came back in as I could no longer put up with all the bull that Eddies the man when he aint, will now dissapear.

Thank fcuk 

[Interpolic]

14 minutes ago, wyn davies said:

Said months ago Eddie aint the guy to carry us forward, chickens comming home to roost. 

 

Doing yourself a disservice there, you said it over a year ago then we won a cup and qualified for the CL (again). 

 

 

Edited February 5 by Interpolic

[Froggy]

42 minutes ago, Kimbo said:

How are we on course for Europe if we’re 11th?

 

You're 3 points off the European spots.  

 

EDIT: Unless you're being sarcastic? 

 

 

Edited February 5 by Froggy

[The College Dropout]

18 minutes ago, healthyaddiction said:

Or... new manager bounce.

Statistically not a real thing from what i recall.

 

And until his last couple weeks - Enzo was doing well too. Is he also a top coach?

 

[jonny1403]

14 minutes ago, wyn davies said:

Said months ago Eddie aint the guy to carry us forward, chickens comming home to roost. Should of went prior to the last international break, would of allowed the new manager to evaluate and see the requirements for the January window,now we are up shit creek without a paddle.

Only came back in as I could no longer put up with all the bull that Eddies the man when he aint, will now dissapear.

 

What do you mean the requirements for the January window? We were never going to sign anyone 

[Bellis80]

20 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

You lot are barmy.

 

Liam Rosenior is doing well enough - he must be excellent at coaching a side in European competition.

 

OR

 

Chelsea have a quality squad which allows him to rotate better.

 

Yesterday was clear as day - this squad lacks quality to play as many games as we have in the competitions we are in. Eddie doesn't have the squad. It's not good enough.

I’d agree but there have been times when the squad has had enough options to rotate and he hasn’t done it previously so it’s probably a bit of both.

[Kimbo]

5 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

You're 3 points off the European spots.  

 

EDIT: Unless you're being sarcastic? 

 

 

 

That’s literally off course, just not by much.

[The College Dropout]

3 minutes ago, Bellis80 said:

I’d agree but there have been times when the squad has had enough options to rotate and he hasn’t done it previously so it’s probably a bit of both.

You need good options. We have 3 fullbacks in the squad. The drop off from our best 3 midfielders is crazy.

 

He's rotating the centrebacks, wingers and strikers who are closer in ability. Most of which are not playing well anyway.

[TRon]

33 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

 

Yesterday was clear as day - this squad lacks quality to play as many games as we have in the competitions we are in. Eddie doesn't have the squad. It's not good enough.

 

 

That's because of the players he signed this summer though. 

 

 

Edited February 5 by TRon

[Froggy]

Just now, TRon said:

That's because of the players he signed this summer though. 

 

Garnacho.

[Interpolic]

15 minutes ago, Kimbo said:

That’s literally off course, just not by much.

 

We see teams overturn bigger deficits up and down the league pretty much every single season. 

[Adam P]

40 minutes ago, wyn davies said:

Said months ago Eddie aint the guy to carry us forward, chickens comming home to roost. Should of went prior to the last international break, would of allowed the new manager to evaluate and see the requirements for the January window,now we are up shit creek without a paddle.

Only came back in as I could no longer put up with all the bull that Eddies the man when he aint, will now dissapear.

 

Welcome to the mentality of the East Stand. I just see this sort of take as purely emotional. There is no perspective whatsoever here. The idea that we would sign someone in January is just madness. We spent 125m net in the summer, if Eddie says 'we have to sign a player to come in a do a job immediately' then Wilson's and Hopkinson's eyebrows would be arching to the back of their foreheads. 'Do a job with the ones we got you in the summer' would have been my reply too. 

[The College Dropout]

23 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

 

That's because of the players he signed this summer though. 

 

 

 

Arteta, Chelsea manager, Pep, Slot, Spurs manager, Brighton Manager, Brentford manager, Emery - none of these managers and coaches have the responsibility of picking their signings as Howe did. There’s a good reason for that. 

[TRon]

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

Arteta, Chelsea manager, Pep, Slot, Spurs manager, Brighton Manager, Brentford manager, Emery - none of these managers and coaches have the responsibility of picking their signings as Howe did. There’s a good reason for that. 

 

I agree, but that's my point. It was widely reported that Howe won the battle of wills with Mitchell who was the DOF, and when he left, it was Howe's team that picked the transfer targets. I'm not convinced that Ross Wilson would have got the DOF role without Howe approval either. Hopefully he's great at his job though, and we can start rebuilding this summer. 

[Yorkie]

20 minutes ago, Interpolic said:

36 minutes ago, Kimbo said:

That’s literally off course, just not by much.

 

We see teams overturn bigger deficits up and down the league pretty much every single season. 

 

If we're within like four or five points of 7th on May 1st then it really is all to play for. Our last four games, with a fit squad and no other competitions, are winnable.

[The College Dropout]

1 minute ago, TRon said:

 

I agree, but that's my point. It was widely reported that Howe won the battle of wills with Mitchell who was the DOF, and when he left, it was Howe's team that picked the transfer targets. I'm not convinced that Ross Wilson would have got the DOF role without Howe approval either. Hopefully he's great at his job though, and we can start rebuilding this summer. 

In hindsight - that was an awful decision. Even if his team is influential - the club need a neutral-ish figure to make sensible decisions. It became apparent early, that it was a shitshow.

 

I still don't think we have the people in power to convince top players to join. I'm a tired voice on this but it sounds like Staveley was great at selling the project. Managed to sign several players with high reputations that might have waited it out. We are now getting beat to transfers by Paris FC.

 

I thought Mitchell made some valid comments but he went about things tgeh wrong way. He pissed off Eddie. He pissed off Isak. Reports he pissed off a lot of people. It was an awful appointment. To go from the Staveley era to that in one go is crazy and maybe an indication of PIF's thinking? Maybe PIF thought she was too close to the players. Takes some balls to tell your best player to do one for a year on a contract they 100% deserve - maybe he was empowered above? Also - probably just a prick.

 

But yeh - Mr. Wilson let's see.

[bobbydazzla]

16 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Arteta, Chelsea manager, Pep, Slot, Spurs manager, Brighton Manager, Brentford manager, Emery - none of these managers and coaches have the responsibility of picking their signings as Howe did. There’s a good reason for that. 

 

How do you know with such certainty that Eddie Howe has the responsibility of picking the signings ? And that other managers have much less responsibility ?

Are you on the inside at NUFC, observing the recruitment process ? And on the inside at other clubs observing their recruitment processes ?

 

You do know that a lot of what is written about signings and targets and links and offers and approaches and rebuffs is either totally fabricated, or it's put out there by agents and selling clubs with an agenda don't you ?

 

The only people who know how our recruitment process works are the people involved in the process. And unless I'm massively mistaken, you're not one of them. You're just a punter on an online forum.

 

 

 

Edited February 5 by bobbydazzla

[The College Dropout]

Mitchell was here for a year. And I think we made 1 significant contract renewal in that time - Gordon right?

 

No to Isak, Botman, improved terms for Tonali, Livra - nada. Awful guy but maybe an indication of what's to come.