Eddie Howe

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, AJ9 said:

wouldn’t be against this either

It would have a chance of working if the infrastructure had been put in place - the problem is that it isn’t. 

[Alberto2005]

I wouldn't sack him now, it's pointless. We need to improve before the end of the season though.

I don't think adding more pressure right now is going to help, I think he needs the fans support right now to see if he can turn it around.

If that happens and we continue to be shite till the end of the season then maybe then you take a step back and decide what's best.

[Izakaya]

Its the best case scenario for everyone really.

 

Eddie gets a much-needed break and has time to refresh his football philosophy.

 

The board have time to get their structure properly in order and overhaul the DoF/Scouting network.

 

The team goes through a true 'transitional' season.

 

We get to keep the most successful manager we've had in half a century and create a legacy instead of becoming just another hire and fire merry-go-round team.

 

it would certainly be a first in top level football as far as i'm aware, but for me this works better than sacking him and appointing fucking Tuchel or Maresca.

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, Izakaya said:

Its the best case scenario for everyone really.

 

Eddie gets a much-needed break and has time to refresh his football philosophy.

 

The board have time to get their structure properly in order and overhaul the DoF/Scouting network.

 

The team goes through a true 'transitional' season.

 

We get to keep the most successful manager we've had in half a century and create a legacy instead of becoming just another hire and fire merry-go-round team.

 

it would certainly be a first in top level football as far as i'm aware, but for me this works better than sacking him and appointing fucking Tuchel or Maresca.

If Eddie survives this season you better believe this is the transitional one. He won't be allowed another like this. 

[Holmesy]

1 hour ago, Izakaya said:

The sad thing is that if he is sacked or leaves, he will take a sabbatical and refresh his tactics and add a whole new element to his toolkit. He'll then get another PL job and absolutely smash it, and more than likely win another trophy if not the league itself, then we look like the daft cunts for letting him go. 

 

 

Problem is, I don’t think we get that version of Eddie if he does stay - the sabbatical gives him the opportunity to work on the issues and gaps in his management playbook. The last one took him a decent break to put together. 
 

If we allow him the time to do it in the job, firstly I can see him burning out and secondly, I can see things getting worse before they get better. 

 

 

[Zero]

44 minutes ago, Izakaya said:

Its the best case scenario for everyone really.

 

Eddie gets a much-needed break and has time to refresh his football philosophy.

 

The board have time to get their structure properly in order and overhaul the DoF/Scouting network.

 

The team goes through a true 'transitional' season.

 

We get to keep the most successful manager we've had in half a century and create a legacy instead of becoming just another hire and fire merry-go-round team.

 

it would certainly be a first in top level football as far as i'm aware, but for me this works better than sacking him and appointing fucking Tuchel or Maresca.

 

I like your idea but what if the caretaker manager/head coach does a better job, say bring us back to Top 6?

[TheBrownBottle]

40 minutes ago, Izakaya said:

Its the best case scenario for everyone really.

 

Eddie gets a much-needed break and has time to refresh his football philosophy.

 

The board have time to get their structure properly in order and overhaul the DoF/Scouting network.

 

The team goes through a true 'transitional' season.

 

We get to keep the most successful manager we've had in half a century and create a legacy instead of becoming just another hire and fire merry-go-round team.

 

it would certainly be a first in top level football as far as i'm aware, but for me this works better than sacking him and appointing fucking Tuchel or Maresca.

It’s not necessarily the best case scenario for Newcastle United, though - it might well be for Eddie Howe and his career.  
 

And if it happens (very unlikely of course), do the club charge ‘transitional’ prices for season tickets?  I trust they will, if they’ve decided they’re having a fallow year.

 

Most ‘elite’ managers and coaches do seem to move with the times without needing 12-24 month sabbaticals.  I’m all for Howe taking an extended holiday in the summer for his mental health, but putting the club on pause for a year so he can watch other how other clubs work (NB I can’t imagine they’d be as welcoming as they were on his last break) is an absolute no-go. 

Tuchel’s trophy cabinet is something I’d be happy to see replicated on Tyneside btw - no idea where the complete lack of respect for the man’s achievements comes from. 

[TheBrownBottle]

47 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

If Eddie survives this season you better believe this is the transitional one. He won't be allowed another like this. 

Nor should he be

[Weezertron]

I’m not keen to see him become the manager of Man Utd, and us get some third rate shite manager cause like top players, a top manager won’t want to join us. 

[TRC]

1 hour ago, r0cafella said:

If Eddie survives this season you better believe this is the transitional one. He won't be allowed another like this. 

I just don’t see how next season is any better, we aren’t signing another striker unless we somehow get our money back for one of the ones we signed. We have no goals or creativity in midfield apart from a guy doing the job of 3 people.

 

We have 4 wingers all right footed, one is a confidence player who was surplus to requirements for years. One thinks he is way better than he is, one is a pace merchant, Harvey is cool though.

 

We need 2 fullbacks and a cb and a GK. We will lost most of the leadership in the team too.

 

To fund this we will need to sell Tino or Tonali who will also then need replacing.

 

Ross Wilson has huge pressure and I doubt he can deliver, which just leaves Howe up shit creek.

[r0cafella]

18 minutes ago, TRC said:

I just don’t see how next season is any better, we aren’t signing another striker unless we somehow get our money back for one of the ones we signed. We have no goals or creativity in midfield apart from a guy doing the job of 3 people.

 

We have 4 wingers all right footed, one is a confidence player who was surplus to requirements for years. One thinks he is way better than he is, one is a pace merchant, Harvey is cool though.

 

We need 2 fullbacks and a cb and a GK. We will lost most of the leadership in the team too.

 

To fund this we will need to sell Tino or Tonali who will also then need replacing.

 

Ross Wilson has huge pressure and I doubt he can deliver, which just leaves Howe up shit creek.

Is this an argument for giving him all the time in the world? Unfortunately for us and Eddie this is a squad which he's had his hands building. If it's somehow inadequate then he's part of the reason for that being the case. 

[TRC]

5 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Is this an argument for giving him all the time in the world? Unfortunately for us and Eddie this is a squad which he's had his hands building. If it's somehow inadequate then he's part of the reason for that being the case. 

No, I think we missed the boat on getting rid of him for optimal performance. We should have removed him after the mackems loss. I think if we move in the summer then that manager should be given more than a season as I think it’s a rough job to come into.

[Izakaya]

1 hour ago, Zero said:

 

I like your idea but what if the caretaker manager/head coach does a better job, say bring us back to Top 6?

 

Unfortunately the whole thing is fraught with mitigating circumstances, which is why it would never truly come to fruition.

 

Im of both opposing opinions that Eddies time at Newcastle (in this current point of his career) is probably over, but I also want to keep him because I know he can and will do much better. 

 

He is such a meticulous workaholic that its become detrimental to his health and his footballing philosophy, and he cant see the wood for the trees. 

 

I agree you cant just put an entire football club on hold for a season for one man.

[r0cafella]

59 minutes ago, TRC said:

No, I think we missed the boat on getting rid of him for optimal performance. We should have removed him after the mackems loss. I think if we move in the summer then that manager should be given more than a season as I think it’s a rough job to come into.

Your joking right? I'm far from convinced he can turn it around but sacking him after the loss at the mackems would have been totally unhinged. 

[Loki679]

I have faith he'll turn it around and I'll back him to the hilt to do it.  We couldn't ask for a better fit as manager for our club, the man is intelligent, dignified, calm and measured and works his bollocks off.  He's bought into the club and the area and he deserves our backing and loyalty to get through a tough period.

 

I have a feeling that the result at the weekend might have been enough of a shock to the system that we'll see some big changes going forward.  Sometimes it takes a hit like that to wake you up and bring the resolve to make wholesale structural changes to a plan that isn't working.  Let's see what he comes up with on Tuesday.

[TheBrownBottle]

Just now, loki679 said:

I have faith he'll turn it around and I'll back him to the hilt to do it.  We couldn't ask for a better fit as manager for our club, the man is intelligent, dignified, calm and measured and works his bollocks off.  He's bought into the club and the area and he deserves our backing and loyalty to get through a tough period.

 

I have a feeling that the result at the weekend might have been enough of a shock to the system that we'll see some big changes going forward.  Sometimes it takes a hit like that to wake you up and bring the resolve to make wholesale structural changes to a plan that isn't working.  Let's see what he comes up with on Tuesday.

Current form keeps up and I dread to think what the reaction will be if we don’t beat the Mackems at home.  It could be genuinely nasty at that point.  He has to get the results in before then - and that’ll take a change of approach.  My fear is that he doesn’t know what to do at this point - his press conference post-match suggests he’s out of ideas.  

[Izakaya]

7 minutes ago, loki679 said:

 

I have a feeling that the result at the weekend might have been enough of a shock to the system that we'll see some big changes going forward.  

 

This is what im hoping too.

 

The boos at HT and FT, Edwards question about him walking, his demeanour at the press conference all feel like we are at a sliding doors moment - all that without us knowing what his conversations have been like at PIF/CEO level.

 

Shit or bust.

[Poon Raccoon]

1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Current form keeps up and I dread to think what the reaction will be if we don’t beat the Mackems at home.  It could be genuinely nasty at that point.  He has to get the results in before then - and that’ll take a change of approach.  My fear is that he doesn’t know what to do at this point - his press conference post-match suggests he’s out of ideas.  

The Mackems game is the catalyst.

 

If our form stays poor and we lose that at home,  i fear for him.

[Nine]

1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Current form keeps up and I dread to think what the reaction will be if we don’t beat the Mackems at home.  It could be genuinely nasty at that point.  He has to get the results in before then - and that’ll take a change of approach.  My fear is that he doesn’t know what to do at this point - his press conference post-match suggests he’s out of ideas.  

What do you mean? He’s changed formation away from the 4/3/3 quite a bit lately. Away at PSG being the best performance using 3 at the back. 

 

 

Edited February 9 by Nine

[TheBrownBottle]

15 minutes ago, Nine said:

What do you mean? He’s changed formation away from the 4/3/3 quite a bit lately. Away at PSG being the best performance using 3 at the back. 

 

 

 

I’m going off his own words at the press conference 

[cubaricho]

5 hours ago, Holmesy said:

I can see things getting worse before they get better. 

They are very much about to I just hope everyone keeps their panties dry during that time. 

[Zero]

I would be honest, a double derby loss to Sunderland, in this season where we should be top 6 and they should be relegation fighters, would be historic. Yea we want Eddie to stay and we will try to play down the importance if the above really happened, but I can imagine what the stadium response be like after the final whistle

 

The players have to win this for Howe. They own him this one.

[Yorkie]

3 hours ago, loki679 said:

I have a feeling that the result at the weekend might have been enough of a shock to the system that we'll see some big changes going forward.  Sometimes it takes a hit like that to wake you up and bring the resolve to make wholesale structural changes to a plan that isn't working.  Let's see what he comes up with on Tuesday.

 

 this fucking schedule. 

 

Wholesale structural changes needed. Thank God we've got approximately five minutes to implement them before the next game.

 

I agree with everything you're saying but it just feels impossible atm. 

[bobbydazzla]

9 hours ago, dcmk said:

The XG table suggests we have been unlucky so far this year..  7 points off where we should be and sitting in 6th.

Everything’s ok then. We can relax.

 

Fucksakes.

 

The xG table can get to fuck.

 

No offence. 
 

 

[RS]

Him pushing to win more silverware has cost us in the league unfortunately and the uninformed and the unwise in our fan base can’t see it or won’t accept it (suggesting a sabbatical for fucks sake!). 

There’s nobody that could do a better job with this squad.