Eddie Howe

[Sir Joel Inton]

3 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

Some damning stats there which basically backs up how I seen it. They wanted to win the game more than we did.

 

We put in more tackles and fouls at home to Qarabag than we did the mackems. Make that make sense.

[TRon]

7 minutes ago, Sir Joel Inton said:

Mackems won that game by bringing down the quality deficit by wanting it more. They were in every tackle, winning 50/50s and battling for everything. We tried to outclass them, many have failed to do that against weaker teams, hence the “Stoke away” narrative. It was a poor game plan, poor team selection and some players (not all) had a poor level of effort.

 

”Don’t boo after losing back to back Derby matches because it will put off world class managers from joining us”. Fuck off.

 

We didn't try to outclass them. We weren't good enough to do that. Either the set up was wrong, or the players we have are just not that good. 

[Chicken Dancer]

Personally not one to boo but if there’s ever a time to, it’s when your local rivals - newly promoted ones at that - have just came and deservedly beat you on your own patch. 
 

As for Howe, he’s had more support than any NUFC manager that I can remember from the stands. We’re constantly singing his name. It was only a few games ago a huge banner of him was draped over the Leazes end. 
 

He rightly gets praised when we’re good and now is rightly taking shit when we’re crap. That’s football and isn’t exclusive to us. 
 

 

[Robster]

1 minute ago, Chicken Dancer said:

Personally not one to boo but if there’s ever a time to, it’s when your local rivals - newly promoted ones at that - have just came and deservedly beat you on your own patch. 
 

As for Howe, he’s had more support than any NUFC manager that I can remember from the stands. We’re constantly singing his name. It was only a few games ago a huge banner of him was draped over the Leazes end. 
 

He rightly gets praised when we’re good and now is rightly taking shit when we’re crap. That’s football and isn’t exclusive to us. 
 

 

I'm arrogant though. I want to believe that Newcastle fans are better than the rest of them.

[Chicken Dancer]

Just now, Robster said:

I'm arrogant though. I want to believe that Newcastle fans are better than the rest of them.

That’s football in this country. It may be pantomime and as I say, I can’t remember if I’ve ever booed at the football, but it’s the way fans show displeasure in this country and always will be. 
 

I’ve no problem in people letting the team/staff they’re pissed off and if that’s via booing then fair play. I left as soon as the second hit the back of the net so didn’t have a chance to tell them to fuck off. 

[Drewboy74]

4 minutes ago, Chicken Dancer said:

Personally not one to boo but if there’s ever a time to, it’s when your local rivals - newly promoted ones at that - have just came and deservedly beat you on your own patch. 
 

As for Howe, he’s had more support than any NUFC manager that I can remember from the stands. We’re constantly singing his name. It was only a few games ago a huge banner of him was draped over the Leazes end. 
 

He rightly gets praised when we’re good and now is rightly taking shit when we’re crap. That’s football and isn’t exclusive to us. 
 

 

Personally I think it's the exact time not too boo. Just gives them something else to score points over. The players knew how shit they were as did Howe. Unnecessary, all of it.

[Chicken Dancer]

Just now, Drewboy74 said:

Personally I think it's the exact time not too boo. Just gives them something else to score points over. The players knew how shit they were as did Howe. Unnecessary, all of it.

Maybe it is. But it’s always been the way people show displeasure at football grounds up and down the country, it’s not going to change anytime soon. 

[Slim]

Think that's enough internet for one day

 

 

 

[HaydnNUFC]

Never booed but don’t blame those who did. Personally left as soon as their winner hit the net from headloss. Only the 2nd time I’ve ever left a game before FT since going to games as far as I can remember. Was personally disgusted at the performance then and still am. 

 

 

Edited March 24 by HaydnNUFC

[Andy]

Booing is quite comical really if you consider that grown adults, many of whom are probably in decent and responsible jobs, are literally making and holding this stupid noise with their mouths to represent a pure form of discontent. Imagine doing it in a meeting with your MD at work or something. 

[1881]

The thing I just can’t get my head around is why people are talking about this season as if it has been some sort of disaster. The League hasn’t finished yet, 5th Round FAC, SF of League Cup and through to the k-o stages of the Champions League.
 

How many seasons do you think we’ve had since World War 2 which have been better? Can’t be bothered to check. but there will not be that many.

[Chicken Dancer]

Just now, HaydnNUFC said:

Never booed but don’t blame those who did. Personally left as soon as their winner hit the net. Only the 2nd time I’ve ever left a game before FT since going to games as far as I can remember. Was personally disgusted at the performance then and still am. 

Most disgusted I’ve been at a performance in some time and the reason I’ve flipped on my Howe stance. 
 

Worse than the 0-3 against this lot for me. Knowing how poor they’ve been away from home all season and watching what we served up second half had me seething. Probably take a long time for me to get over it but eternally grateful we don’t play for fucking ages. 

[1881]

I always thought that the (seemingly disappeared) slow handclap was more threatening- perhaps we should re-introduce that to the game to let the players know that we are a tad disappointed with their efforts

[HaydnNUFC]

7 minutes ago, Andy said:

Booing is quite comical really if you consider that grown adults, many of whom are probably in decent and responsible jobs, are literally making and holding this stupid noise with their mouths to represent a pure form of discontent. Imagine doing it in a meeting with your MD at work or something. 

 

When you think about it, of course it is. But booing has always been the universal show of 'that was shite' from fans in British football. Same logic can be applied with shouting at a player or a referee that he's a cunt because of who he plays for or a decision being given. Or the Spanish waving white handkerchiefs about.

 

Football is an inherently emotional game which is what makes it so great and so horrid. Expecting fans after watching Sunday's performance, in the context of the game given who it was against and their general record away from home this season, to not be emotional is as daft as it is sanctimonious imo.

 

 

Edited March 24 by HaydnNUFC

[Heron]

EHBAWA.

[Kilcline]

31 minutes ago, Sir Joel Inton said:

 

Joelinton the only Newcastle player to get booked for losing his head after the scored the winner.

 

NUFC - 8 fouls

mackems - 19 fouls

 

NUFC - 69% of tackles won

mackems - 82% of tackles won (and more attempted)

8 fouls is fucking pathetic like. We're soft as shite these days when teams play us that way.

 

Their 19 fouls is the highest against us this season in 90 mins, even Bournemouth only got to 21 in the cup with ET and they're proper shithouses. Another team we shrink against, we only made 7(!) fouls in 120 minutes that day 

[nufcjmc]

Just now, 1881 said:

The thing I just can’t get my head around is why people are talking about this season as if it has been some sort of disaster. The League hasn’t finished yet, 5th Round FAC, SF of League Cup and through to the k-o stages of the Champions League.
 

How many seasons do you think we’ve had since World War 2 which have been better? Can’t be bothered to check. but there will not be that many.

I get that sentiment that also a sense of entitlement may well have set in but it just comes back to the optics as a whole we have been a poor watch we haven't really steam rolled any teams like we did a few years ago, we have "sacrificed" the league campaign but its not led to any tangible rewards in terms of a trophy.

 

Think I mentioned this previously in another post but the season which promised so much (we had won a trophy/could finally spend again and were back in the champions league) has all fallen a little flat in the end. 

 

We need a near perfect 7 games to stand a chance of Europe and based on keeping a hold of our better players and attracting more its a fairly important part of the clubs ambitions, 2 seasons ago we finished on 60 points in 7th. I am just not sure we can match that this season and even if we did and someone asked me to sum up the season as a whole a mixed bag is what I would probably describe it we have either been poor going forward/ poor in defence/ poor on the road or poor at home and I haven't really been able to go into any game confident. 

 

From the Ashley years yeah I would have laughed at you if you said this is what we could expect and people would be unhappy but the ceiling has been raised unfortunately or fortunately depending on your view. The club has said previously that success will not be linear and there will be bumps in the road but this has felt like a reality check sort of season in terms of how far we have come in the fight to maintain and or improve our position season on season. 

[Slim]

I think the people clapping should be more embarrassed tbh. 

[Menace]

19 minutes ago, Slim said:

Think that's enough internet for one day

 

 

 

 

6 likes. This is your account isn't it?

[1881]

16 minutes ago, nufcjmc said:

I get that sentiment that also a sense of entitlement may well have set in but it just comes back to the optics as a whole we have been a poor watch we haven't really steam rolled any teams like we did a few years ago, we have "sacrificed" the league campaign but its not led to any tangible rewards in terms of a trophy.

 

Think I mentioned this previously in another post but the season which promised so much (we had won a trophy/could finally spend again and were back in the champions league) has all fallen a little flat in the end. 

 

Unfortunately we are caught in a PSR/SCR/coefficient trap which is designed to ensure that this is exactly what happens once a team gets some success.
 

This is how the media/broadcasters and the clubs with the largest worldwide fan bases want it to work and why they will do their best to ensure the best players are at the “biggest” clubs who then dominate all the competitions. It’s all about money.

 

I get the fury over the match on Sunday and I was raging myself, but I really think that Howe has done a fantastic job of making us “disruptors” and changing manager would be a mistake.

 

And I believe a number of the players let him down badly on the day and I am not sure that he should be blamed for that. 

 

 

Edited March 24 by 1881

[Sir Joel Inton]

32 minutes ago, Andy said:

Booing is quite comical really if you consider that grown adults, many of whom are probably in decent and responsible jobs, are literally making and holding this stupid noise with their mouths to represent a pure form of discontent. Imagine doing it in a meeting with your MD at work or something. 

 

Genuinely reckon my life would be loads better if this was socially acceptable.

[macphisto]

5 minutes ago, 1881 said:

Unfortunately we are caught in a PSR/SCR/coefficient trap which is designed to ensure that this is exactly what happens once a team gets some success.
 

This is how the media/broadcasters and the clubs with the largest worldwide fan bases want it to work and why they will do their best to ensure the best players are at the “biggest” clubs who then dominate all the competitions. It’s all about money.

 

I get the fury over the match on Sunday and I was raging myself, but I really think that Howe has done a fantastic job of making us “disruptors” and changing manager would be a mistake.

 

And I believe a number of the players let him down badly on the day and I am not sure that he should be blamed for that. 

100% right. It would be a massive mistake. There's only one reason we have done well over the last few seasons and that's Howe with little support from above. He's the one who's raised our  expectations and deserves our full support. Yes, the last window didn't go well but a lot of that was beyond his control and if you looked at all of our signings over his time here then on the whole they've been fantastic; The hit rate is excellent. 

 

Going through so many windows without a signing is also starting to catch up this season.

 

Time to look at his position is next season if he's been backed in the summer and we're not doing well. It's the least he deserves.

[nufcjmc]

4 minutes ago, 1881 said:

Unfortunately we are caught in a PSR/SCR/coefficient trap which is designed to ensure that this is exactly what happens once a team gets some success.
 

This is how the media/broadcasters and the clubs with the largest worldwide fan bases want it to work and why they will do their best to ensure the best players are at the “biggest” clubs who then dominate all the competitions. It’s all about money.

 

I get the fury over the match on Sunday and I was raging myself, but I really think that Howe has done a fantastic job of making us “disruptors” and changing manager would be a mistake.

 

And I believe a number of the players let him down badly on the day and I am not sure that he should be blamed for that. 

 

 

 

Your definitely not wrong we need to almost be perfect in every regard to stand a chance of breaking the monopoly which again adds to the frustration of it all going into this season. We "needed" champions league at the end of the season to keep players and the rat fucks off anyway and what followed in the summer at board level and recruitment followed by a poor pre-season didnt really lay any foundations of it being a great season to come. 

 

The players have at times let their manager down the shit the bed stuff when we go in front is not coming from Howe but he is also not been able to stop it which yes in an individual game shit happens the issue is that this was and is not an isolated performance. This season has seen us do well for parts of a game or a half and play well in periods but not consistently the game at the weekend was just the final straw for some. Especially after the away game when the players said stuff like "putting it right" in the return fixture at home. 

 

Ultimately you are where you are in the league on merit, come the end of the season if its 7th or 8th in a few years it could be seen as just a blip however we could end up back in 12th or 13th which feels a "put back in our place" sort of bruising season. 

 

 

[DC Magpie]

42 minutes ago, Andy said:

Booing is quite comical really if you consider that grown adults, many of whom are probably in decent and responsible jobs, are literally making and holding this stupid noise with their mouths to represent a pure form of discontent. Imagine doing it in a meeting with your MD at work or something. 

 

And on that note, you reminded me of a series of Mastercard commercials from a few years back.

 

And I think it's all just a misperception that fans were booing the team Sunday. They were saying "Mooooo-vers". 

 

 

[Mattoon]

50 minutes ago, 1881 said:

The thing I just can’t get my head around is why people are talking about this season as if it has been some sort of disaster. The League hasn’t finished yet, 5th Round FAC, SF of League Cup and through to the k-o stages of the Champions League.
 

How many seasons do you think we’ve had since World War 2 which have been better? Can’t be bothered to check. but there will not be that many.

 

Recency bias, we didn't win any of those, we don't have any matches left in any of them so people are focusing solely on the league table and it has come 2nd to the cup runs we were on. I don't think we can judge the season fully until it is finished as I think a 3 week break and a full weeks rest between games will see us a different animal in the run in and depending on results elsewhere could see us finish in a respectable position yet. However, as you have said, when you step back and look at the season as a whole it has been a pretty successful one, albeit tumultuous and arduous.