Eddie Howe

[Pablo123]

1 hour ago, Bimpy474 said:

 

Absolutely, however that's modern football.  And, as I've said before some of our fans are turning into the entitled shite that follow the scummy six. They expect success, despite the fact we have rules intended to stop us challenging. Now, the downfall is, and i say this as a massive Eddie fan. The team and he, have given the entitled idiots, and a lot of fair minded, and big Eddie fans a lot to be worried about, and to criticise.

 

He does deserve next season, any other point of view is mental imo. If he doesn't evolve and the team continues as it has at times this season, then he will be gone. 

 

The thing i tell myself, Oh, 5 to 10 years ago.   If you said, you'll make the semi-final of the League Cup, qualify for the last 16 of the Champions League, make the 5th round of the FA Cup, and with a good run make a decent fist of finishing in the top 10. And, if you told me that was a poor season and the manager should be sacked, i would have kicked you in the bollocks and told you to stop being a toss rocket.

 

Times have a changed somewhat.

 

 

 

It's crackers, mate.

[OverThere]

5 minutes ago, Robster said:

Yep. It's like nothing has improved at all

 

 

 

Happy clapper. We went a year with no CEO at the helm (one who forced out Staveley) leaving a power vacuum including a revolving door of DOF and Howe trying to do everything. It's still amateurish.

[Deuce]

Reckon there’s not anything Hopkinson could’ve said that would’ve pleased everyone tbh.
 

Comments seem fairly anodyne to me, but I see how they’d be read otherwise.

[Robster]

4 minutes ago, OverThere said:

Happy clapper. We went a year with no CEO at the helm (one who forced out Staveley) leaving a power vacuum including a revolving door of DOF and Howe trying to do everything. It's still amateurish.

 

I'm not in anyway denying that things could and should be run better but we are so far ahead and improved from where we were 5 years ago, I'm choosing not to get my knickers in a twist about it and am choosing to carry on enjoying the ride that we all yearned for.
If we are making mistakes in the search to be better, I'm happy to clap for that.

[Lotus]

 I’m not particularly attached to EH. I think he’s done a fantastic job and a result the expectations are higher. 
 

I just want the best person available to take us forward so we’re competing up the sharp end more often. 
 

Getting a more effective manager/coach than Howe would be no mean feat. If they’re wavering re: his future I hope they have a very clear idea of what they’re doing as replacing him would have far more potential to go wrong than right.

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

23 minutes ago, DC Magpie said:

 

Honest question from a somewhat new NUFC supporter and "soccer" dilettante. Has Eddie run the same 4-3-3 his entire time here? Was it the same at Bournemouth? It seems a scrappy formation intended to counter teams who are technically superior and more talented. Is that the case? And if it is, could his devotion to the 4-3-3 be a hindrance to us signing some of the better technical players? 

 

Well, I guess that's more than one question, but they're all honest, so please don't rip my head off. 

1) No. we have played with a back five not infrequently this season. We played with a two at times with Wilson and Isak. I would say that 4-3-3 has been the default but other formations have been used. 
 

2) at Bournemouth he played a 4-4-2 4-4-1-1.

 

3)It didn’t stop us from signing Bruno, Isak or Lewis Hall who are amongst the best technical players to have represented the club in recent memory. 

 

 

Edited March 31 by Shays Given Tim Flowers

[Cronky]

It’s hard to know what to make of David Hopkinson's comments. Overall, it’s unlikely to boost team morale if there’s uncertainty about Eddie’s future.

 

When Paul Mitchell was DOF, it came across that Eddie is a manager that wants a major say over incoming and outgoing transfers. He may have registered this viewpoint with Ross Wilson, with the underlying message that he may walk if the projected squad overhaul doesn’t go as he’d like. It may be Eddie’s commitment that is unclear, rather than the owners’.

 

I do think the squad needs an overhaul. While I don’t think Eddie has taken our club as far as he can, I do think that the current team has peaked. According to the gossip columns, other clubs are willing to pay big fees for some of our players. Cashing in on their current value can be sensible if the price is right.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Problem is the squad has peaked because of the bad players rather than the good ones. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

27 minutes ago, Lotus said:

 I’m not particularly attached to EH. I think he’s done a fantastic job and a result the expectations are higher. 
 

I just want the best person available to take us forward so we’re competing up the sharp end more often. 
 

Getting a more effective manager/coach than Howe would be no mean feat. If they’re wavering re: his future I hope they have a very clear idea of what they’re doing as replacing him would have far more potential to go wrong than right.

If you’re not attached to EH I really don’t understand where you’ve been for the last few years. Inexplicable viewpoint

[Holmesy]

32 minutes ago, DC Magpie said:

 

Honest question from a somewhat new NUFC supporter and "soccer" dilettante. Has Eddie run the same 4-3-3 his entire time here? Was it the same at Bournemouth? It seems a scrappy formation intended to counter teams who are technically superior and more talented. Is that the case? And if it is, could his devotion to the 4-3-3 be a hindrance to us signing some of the better technical players? 

 

Well, I guess that's more than one question, but they're all honest, so please don't rip my head off. 

He's played the odd 5 at the back but it's pretty much been 4-3-3 since he got here. And i think this one of the underpinnings of the discontent and concern - Eddie hasn't done loads of different things well on the pitch, he's done one thing well, very well, until this season - one formation, one gameplan, one way of playing. And the issue (that concerns many of us) is that when the thing that worked before doesn't work, he doesn't seem to have much of an answer.

We haven't see him try new things things to stop us being so leaky defensively, we haven't seen him try different formations, drop us deeper, play it around a bit etc. He seems to believe so steadfastly in his approach that he won't break from it even when it isn't working, highlighted by the recent "no plan B" comment in the press conference.

For those of us who have concerns, we are concerned that he can't or won't change. I guess those that have total faith either believe the same stuff will start working again (mayb e with different players) or Eddie will find a new way to get us winning? But he was similar at Bournemouth - stubbornly sticking to his plan A despite diminishing returns, which eventually led to Bournemouth's relegation.
 

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

We’ve seen him try plenty of different ideas though, and I still believe the intention of this season was to develop the style. Sadly none of the signings have worked out so he has leant on the press because he trusts it. 
 

I feel it’s pretty unfair to categorise him as massively inflexible. 

[Holmesy]

14 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

We’ve seen him try plenty of different ideas though, and I still believe the intention of this season was to develop the style. Sadly none of the signings have worked out so he has leant on the press because he trusts it. 
 

I feel it’s pretty unfair to categorise him as massively inflexible. 

What though? What have you seen?
Genuine question, not being a dick

[Drewboy74]

29 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

We’ve seen him try plenty of different ideas though, and I still believe the intention of this season was to develop the style. Sadly none of the signings have worked out so he has leant on the press because he trusts it. 
 

I feel it’s pretty unfair to categorise him as massively inflexible. 

Bang on. Same stupid questions are being asked over and over again. What other managers are using different formations/tactics to the point where they can do any better than what Howe can do right now? Armchair football managers man.

[Holmesy]

Just now, Drewboy74 said:

Bang on. Same stupid questions are being asked over and over again. What other managers are using different formations/tactics to the point where they can do any better than what Howe can do right now? Armchair football managers man.

Same stupid questions are being asked over and over because no one ever provides any actual answers. All we get is the same Hodors with the same "Eddie is our King" responses.
If you want people to stop talking about it (on a Newcastle United discussion forum by the way) provide an adequate response rather than blanket statements with no actual substance.

[Lotus]

57 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

If you’re not attached to EH I really don’t understand where you’ve been for the last few years. Inexplicable viewpoint

 

It's the club I want to see do well. I'm not invested in any manager's career. 

 

Obvs, whoever is the current manager, I hope they're doing very well because then the club is. I'm not GhoeberXing after any coach or manager though.

 

Last one I 'loved' was SBR. Can't get into that again.

[astraguy]

Gordon upfront for England, who came up with that idea?

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I do have some things just haven’t had a chance to post them.
 

We’ve definitely seen different patterns of play being tried at various points in the season. Fullbacks coming inside into CM, wingers running into the inside channel, different configurations of the midfield. Even Woltemade off Gordon. Not complete reinvention but attempts at change. Ramsdale over Pope. 
 

Like I said earlier, I believe the intention was to play with more possession. But since our form was so poor we’ve almost had to lean back on what we knew. 

 

 

Edited March 31 by AyeDubbleYoo

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Just now, astraguy said:

Gordon upfront for England, who came up with that idea?

Think it was England

[astraguy]

4 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Think it was England

I meant more in the sense Thomas has seen what he can do from playing it for us? I don't think Gordon's done this before for England?

[AyeDubbleYoo]

2 minutes ago, astraguy said:

I meant more in the sense Thomas has seen what he can do from playing it for us? I don't think Gordon's done this before for England?

He was a false 9 in the U21s. Not for Tuchel though. 

[astraguy]

Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said:

He was a false 9 in the U21s. Not for Tuchel though. 

fair enough, But i'm sure what he's done for us is where he is getting the reward

[AyeDubbleYoo]

1 minute ago, astraguy said:

fair enough, But i'm sure what he's done for us is where he is getting the reward

Yeah sure, I just meant he’s known in the England setup for being able to play centrally. 

[Bimpy474]

Not sure if this has been posted, but it's very explanation of where we are.

 

 

[Drewboy74]

23 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

Same stupid questions are being asked over and over because no one ever provides any actual answers. All we get is the same Hodors with the same "Eddie is our King" responses.
If you want people to stop talking about it (on a Newcastle United discussion forum by the way) provide an adequate response rather than blanket statements with no actual substance.

 I'm well aware that this is a forum for discussion. Rather patronising post by the way. I've posted multiple times and reasons as to why I think Howe is irreplaceable at this time. What I haven't done is call people Hodors or Fanboys or whatever childish name  because they have an opposing view to what I have. 

[Kid Icarus]

Reading those quotes again I'm pretty confident he'll be gone at the end of the season like. Whether it's Howe's own choice or not who knows, but I really hope I'm just being needlessly cynical because I'll be absolutely gutted.