Jackie Broon Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 minute ago, midds said: Genuinely feels like the middle of the end at this point. Teams are always a reflection of the manager and this team looks stale, tired and mistake-ridden. He's done an unbelievable job since he was appointed but I think this repair job is beyond him unfortunately - the volume and manner of the results and performances he's getting out of his squad are pretty pathetic. The whole identity of the squad has changed completely, the system has stopped working and, at this stage, Howe appears unable or unwilling to change things enough. He's had an awful lot of things go against him that are beyond his control but after a 3 week break to rest, recharge, organise and train the team for this match and to serve up the performance they did is utterly shit. It was de ja vu and yet another dismal second half, not helped by passive management and poor reactive subs having watched his team cede control almost deliberately. He's not learning and he's not changing and it's not getting fixed this time imo. I think it's a matter of time now I wish there were an 'I regrettably agree with' rather than a 'like' button. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Just now, Dr.Spaceman said: We can hope to be a side that can win games against Crystal Palace and Sunderland though, right? Well aye, of course. It's the blind expecting to that gets on my tits Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dcmk Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 2 minutes ago, OpenC said: We've been a bang average laughing stock of a club for fucking decades. The best we ever got labelled was 'sleeping giant', based on pretty much nowt except a passionate fanbase and being everybody's second favourite team years, decades ago. I don't know what some of you lads and lasses have been watching all this time that makes you feel we can and should expect continuous year on year improvement, in a 'sporting' environment that goes out of its way to nullify in every way it can the one advantage we have, rich ownership. I agree the 433 is infuriating. I agree the subs are Bobby Robson level predictable. I don't agree with sacking your manager due to one disappointing domestic campaign after he's saved us from relegation then routinely outperformed expectations in the league and gone deep into cup competitions pretty much every year. Also agree that he's carrying the can pretty much single handedly for the ownership's complete lack of interest last summer and He Got Exactly The Players That He Wanted, which is patently not the case, is just the accepted narrative now. We've changed, like. Got our club back and lost our sense of perspective all at the same time. This. It's pure entitlement. Wanting everything yesterday and unable to emotionally handle the ups and downs of supporting a football team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC91 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 5 minutes ago, dcmk said: Shows how much of a poor domestic campaign it has been. Like the one we had before we turned it around in the summer and got a cup and CL spot. I get it people want new shiny things every now and then. Shows how fickle and forgetful people can be. I think the big difference is that season we missed out on Europe in 7th as Man utd won the fa cup and also didn't spend anything, this season we have spent £250m and sit in 14th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Just now, OpenC said: Well aye, of course. It's the blind expecting to that gets on my tits Why, we qualified for the Champions League, we should expect to beat newly promoted clubs and those perennial mid table wankers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Playing Osula over Woltemade and Wissa opens up the question of did Eddie tell the club we couldn’t perform at the same level if we sold Isak with the options available. Tim foil hat on and all that but he may have said keep him and he will act like a professional once the window closes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 minute ago, dcmk said: Ok, so you had no point and nothing actually to discuss. Thought so. Yes I had a point. You asked if it got bumped wich it does regularly. How many posts there are is a different matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 I’m not particularly impressed with what order the goals go in, just how the tally up at FT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Just now, Ronson333 said: If he sorts the goalkeeper position out, defence and gets a striker in, we are walking it with no Europe comps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Just now, OpenC said: We've been a bang average laughing stock of a club for fucking decades. The best we ever got labelled was 'sleeping giant', based on pretty much nowt except a passionate fanbase and being everybody's second favourite team years, decades ago. I don't know what some of you lads and lasses have been watching all this time that makes you feel we can and should expect continuous year on year improvement, in a 'sporting' environment that goes out of its way to nullify in every way it can the one advantage we have, rich ownership. I agree the 433 is infuriating. I agree the subs are Bobby Robson level predictable. I don't agree with sacking your manager due to one disappointing domestic campaign after he's saved us from relegation then routinely outperformed expectations in the league and gone deep into cup competitions pretty much every year. Also agree that he's carrying the can pretty much single handedly for the ownership's complete lack of interest last summer and He Got Exactly The Players That He Wanted, which is patently not the case, is just the accepted narrative now. We've changed, like. Got our club back and lost our sense of perspective all at the same time. What we've done historically is totally irrelevant in 2026. We had a reset in 2021. We've spent over £700m on new players since then. This isn't the Newcastle United of the 1980s that I grew up with in a crumbling wreck of a ground where you got soaked unless you could afford to pay for a seat, having to sell any asset who was worth a few quid. We're up with the big spenders now. We should be better than a 14th placed club bit we are there and we deserve to be there. People need to move away from that little old Newcastle mindset and think bigger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 (edited) 5 minutes ago, dcmk said: This. It's pure entitlement. Wanting everything yesterday and unable to emotionally handle the ups and downs of supporting a football team. Do you actually know what entitlement means ? You seem to use it so much but don’t seem to fully understand the definition of the word and what it means to act in an “entitled” way. Edited April 12 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Just now, dcmk said: If he sorts the goalkeeper position out, defence and gets a striker in, we are walking it with no Europe comps. Quite a lot to sort tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Just now, nufc123 said: Yes I had a point. You asked if it got bumped wich it does regularly. How many posts there are is a different matter. Which is less than a tenth. Like I originally said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Quite a lot to sort tbf. His first signing will be Ramsdale - I'm convinced Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 minute ago, bobbydazzla said: Do you actually know what entitlement means ? You seem to use it so much but don’t seem to fully understand the definition. I’m hearing Brick Top Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOTONEW Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 We've been bought by rich and powerful owners. We've been told we'll be at the top. They've spent accordingly. We've been charged accordingly. But some of you say we're "entitled" to expect improvement and to beat newly promoted sides. Or at least show passion when playing our local rivals. Entitlement would be expecting to win the league. Not expecting to see out a game after we take the lead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Just now, Menace said: His first signing will be Ramsdale - I'm convinced Don’t Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanLooneyToon Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 1 minute ago, dcmk said: Which is less than a tenth. Like I originally said. So your saying that the opinions on Eddie are only valid if the thread about PIF has the same amount of traffic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Just now, GOTONEW said: Entitlement would be expecting to win the league. Not expecting to see out a game after we take the lead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 2 minutes ago, Menace said: His first signing will be Ramsdale - I'm convinced Imagine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 4 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Why, we qualified for the Champions League, we should expect to beat newly promoted clubs and those perennial mid table wankers. Well, because that's how football works. The other teams that routinely qualify for the Champions League aren't subject to the same anticompetitive restrictions that we are. Everybody is in the Premier League because they're pretty good at football. I don't expect to beat anybody, least of all the fucking mackems Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Just now, bobbydazzla said: Do you actually know what entitlement means ? You seem to use it so much but don’t seem to fully understand the definition. Based on the reaction today we were just expected to stroll up today at Selhurst Park and get the three points. Would have been the same at 1-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 3 minutes ago, Menace said: His first signing will be Ramsdale - I'm convinced Will try for Trafford again, and fail again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 2 minutes ago, AmericanLooneyToon said: So your saying that the opinions on Eddie are only valid if the thread about PIF has the same amount of traffic? No. Someone was arguing that the same amount of criticism is levelled at PIF as it does Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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