Eddie Howe

[Ketsbaia]

Good evening

[dcmk]

Just now, Heron said:

Woltemade and Thiaw and Ramsey are all technical players and not runners.

Neither was Ekiteke, Sesko, Cunha, Szoboslai, Pedro, Olise who he has all tried to sign.  

 

It's such a lazy narrative at this point.

 

Any top team is full of athletes. It's literally the modern game now. But you need the quality as well.

[Menace]

14 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

On that point and just on the mention of Klopp earlier. Probably a point worth making that if Liverpool had been without a CEO and DoF in summer 2017 and Klopp was asked to step up, he'd have signed Bowen, not Salah.

 

This isn't true - he wanted to sign Julian Brandt not Bowen

 

The story is the guy who signed Salah even risked his career in convincing Klopp to sign him. So even then, Klopp still had aot more control than it was made out.

 

 

Edited April 25 by Menace

[Mountain]

14 minutes ago, dcmk said:

Tried to.

 

They didn't sign.

 

Elanga was first choice.

[The Prophet]

8 minutes ago, Heron said:

Woltemade and Thiaw and Ramsey are all technical players and not runners.

 

As were Trippier, Botman, Hall, Bruno and Isak.

 

He loves his wide men to graft for sure, but the whole "technical players" thing has become a bit of a forum myth.

 

 

Edited April 25 by The Prophet

[bobbydazzla]

12 minutes ago, dcmk said:

 

 

If people stay patient we can find out for ourselves.

 

But a bad appointment can set us back how many seasons? 

If people stay patient things might not improve.

How far forward could a good appointment propel us ? 
 

We might bring in the next Alonso who takes us on an unbeaten season and we win the league and in May next year I’m sitting with a glass of champagne in a jacuzzi filled to the brim with my own jizz.

 

Makes you think. 

 

 

Edited April 25 by bobbydazzla

[dcmk]

Just now, Mountain said:

 

Elanga was first choice.

I don't necessarily agree with that but for argument sake, sure, the others were far from first choice.

 

With either Trafford/Mamardashvili and Ekitike, we have much better season imo. 

 

[Kid Icarus]

4 minutes ago, Menace said:

 

This isn't true - he wanted to sign Julian Brandt not Bowen

 

The story is the guy who signed Salah even risked his career in convincing Klopp to sign him. So even then, Klopp still had aot more control than it was made out.

 

 

 

Yes, sorry, mixing up links and years, but tbh an even better example I wish I'd used.

[Kid Icarus]

4 minutes ago, Mountain said:

 

Elanga was first choice.

Absolutely wasn't like. He wasn't even first choice in that summer let alone in the time Howe has been here.

[Mountain]

The narrative that you have to panic buy players who cost 50 million isn't sticking anymore.

 

Just buy some players, plan ahead, shop around.

 

A shit team did exactly that and beat us home and away this season.

[dcmk]

1 minute ago, bobbydazzla said:

If people stay patient things might not improve.

How far forward could a good appointment propel us ? 
 

We might bring in the next Alonso who takes us on an unbeaten season and we win the league and in May next year I’m sitting with a glass of champagne in a jacuzzi filled to the brim with my own jizz.

If Chelsea had stayed patient with anyone of their successful managers in recent years such as Tuchel, they wouldn't be as shit as they are now.

 

Same with Spurs and Poch.

 

Those teams have spent years under performing due to appointments which hasn't worked out.

 

Not many hit the ground running.

 

 

 

[dcmk]

1 minute ago, Mountain said:

The narrative that you have to panic buy players who cost 50 million isn't sticking anymore.

 

Just buy some players, plan ahead, shop around.

 

A shit team did exactly that and beat us home and away this season.

The summer has been explained to death. 

 

If you think our backroom team was stable, and we had a normal pre-season than salut.

[toon25]

2 minutes ago, dcmk said:

If Chelsea had stayed patient with anyone of their successful managers in recent years such as Tuchel, they wouldn't be as shit as they are now.

 

Same with Spurs and Poch.

 

Those teams have spent years under performing due to appointments which hasn't worked out.

 

Not many hit the ground running.

 

 

 

 

Tuchel went for non-footballing reasons, mind. 

[Weezertron]

People need to learn to be ok with different opinions on Howe. 

[Mountain]

3 minutes ago, dcmk said:

I don't necessarily agree with that but for argument sake, sure, the others were far from first choice.

 

With either Trafford/Mamardashvili and Ekitike, we have much better season imo. 

 

 

Eddie Howe persistently pursued the Elanga signing.

 

We bid 45 million last Summer and Eddie upped it to 55 million to secure the signing.

 

Yes I agree that if we'd signed a better keeper things would have been better.

 

 

[Whitley mag]

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

Absolutely wasn't like. He wasn't even first choice in that summer let alone in the time Howe has been here.

There were plenty of links to Elanga, they started in the summer Anderson went and was rumoured we first tried to broker deal then.

 

[bobbydazzla]

9 minutes ago, dcmk said:

If Chelsea had stayed patient with anyone of their successful managers in recent years such as Tuchel, they wouldn't be as shit as they are now.

 

Same with Spurs and Poch.

 

Those teams have spent years under performing due to appointments which hasn't worked out.

 

Not many hit the ground running.

 

 

 

So you’re just ignoring any appointment that turned out for the best and the successor was an improvement on the person they replaced ?

 

Carrick is doing much better at Man Utd than Amorim did.
 

Carrick was sacked by Boro after achieving the sum total of fuck all. Amorim was a league winner with Sporting in 23/24 and one of the hottest prospects in management.

 

The future’s not ours to see.

 

 

 

Edited April 25 by bobbydazzla

[Roland]

Why are so many people so hung up on Eddie Howe? Did well after a really big spend, now doing really badly after a bigger spend. The football is repetitive and turgid. Why is Eddie so special? I only ask because all i can see is a dull, uninspiring, uninteresting bloke. Why do so many “fans” stick with him so blindly?

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

26 minutes ago, Thumbheed said:

The 'I've got a winners mentality' types are the biggest melts in football. 

 

There's certainly a question mark on Howe's future on current form, but that should be answered next season.

 

He's has earned the right to have a bad season.

For me he hasn’t. I detest his brand of football and football philosophy 

[Mountain]

9 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Absolutely wasn't like. He wasn't even first choice in that summer let alone in the time Howe has been here.

 

 

Direct quote from Eddie Howe - "I'm delighted to welcome Anthony to Newcastle United. He has been a key target for us so I'm delighted to secure him."

 

Source - https://www.newcastleunited.com/en/news/anthony-elanga-signs-for-newcastle-united

[Kid Icarus]

2 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

There were plenty of links to Elanga, they started in the summer Anderson went and was rumoured we first tried to broker deal then.

 

Plenty of links absolutely, no denying that whatsoever. Never our number one target though.

[Kid Icarus]

Just now, Mountain said:

 

 

Direct quote from Eddie Howe - "I'm delighted to welcome Anthony to Newcastle United. He has been a key target for us so I'm delighted to secure him."

 

Source - https://www.newcastleunited.com/en/news/anthony-elanga-signs-for-newcastle-united

Key ≠ number one target

 

[Collage]

1 minute ago, Roland said:

Why are so many people so hung up on Eddie Howe? Did well after a really big spend, now doing really badly after a bigger spend. The football is repetitive and turgid. Why is Eddie so special? I only ask because all i can see is a dull, uninspiring, uninteresting bloke. Why do so many “fans” stick with him so blindly?

 

You’re an obvious wum/troll/mackem

[Mountain]

3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Key ≠ number one target

 

 

If you want to play semantics then yes I concede defeat.

 

 

 

 

Edited April 25 by Mountain

[TheEntertainer]

3 minutes ago, dcmk said:

If Chelsea had stayed patient with anyone of their successful managers in recent years such as Tuchel, they wouldn't be as shit as they are now.

 

Same with Spurs and Poch.

 

Those teams have spent years under performing due to appointments which hasn't worked out.

 

Not many hit the ground running.

 

 

 

The Poch sacking was fair at the time for Spurs, they'd finished 2nd and got to a Champions League final and were 14th the next season, obviously they've got even worse since then, but I don't think the Poch sacking was unreasonable and they've just made a series of increasingly poor appointments after that, which is always the risk when you twist obviously. The Poch sacking at Chelsea was clearly mental mind but other than him they've had a series of poor managers in recent years after Tuchel.

 

You can make the same argument the other way, what about Man Utd they stuck with Ten Hag for ages when he was clearly not good enough, then Amorim for too long despite him clearly being awful and now they're flying high under Carrick. Change is always a risk, but if the current encumbant is massively underperforming, chances are you get better. Maybe you don't and if you fuck up the appointment obviously you don't but we aren't actually completely safe from relegation with all the shitters winning this weekend. That's an absolutely horrific season for Newcastle since the buyout so this season has been a collosal underperformance. 

 

We even have the example of Eddie at Bournemouth, they stuck with him for too long because of what he'd done for them previously and he took them down. It's a risk either way, but in my opinion given this season, twisting is the lower risk.