Eddie Howe

[LFEE]

Just now, Pilko said:

 

Perhaps we use the training time to practice defending better? A novel concept I'm sure.

That would be structure and shape. This was just one if not two individual errors. Bruno due to probably fatigue and not tracking the run fully and Hall being slow to closing/blocking the shot though in his defence he’d just been clattered moments earlier.

 

What’s would you’ve trained better?

[Pilko]

1 minute ago, bobbydazzla said:

You’ve completely missed the point.

 

All season long we’ve been able to a score goals, but we’ve conceded way too many goals and been unable to hold onto a lead / draw and are now miles ahead in the “points dropped from winning positions” table.

 

A 0–0 today would have demonstrated we’ve tightened up at the back. Some progress in sorting out our glaringly obvious problem. Not an ideal result, but a sign that we’ve fixed a massive weakness (defending).

 

A 1-1 via conceding at the death shows that absolutely nothing has changed. 

 

 

 

I'd like to think a manager who's overseen 1 clean sheet in 22 games might see some value in posting a shutout on the road. Totally agree that more points pissed away puts an even more negative slant on the draw.

[Holmesy]

2 minutes ago, Mills and Boon said:

We don't play long ball football, give ower.

 

Can you name me any side who doesn't run, press or cross the ball?

Are you pissed? Are you actually bothering to read these posts before you reply?

 

I didn’t say we play long ball football anywhere in my post. I said long ball football is still long ball football regardless of what formation you play - it was purely an example of where it doesn’t matter what formation is played when you only have one style of football in your locker. 

[Kid Icarus]

4 minutes ago, Theregulars said:

Are there any precedents for a manager coming back stronger after such a bad regression? Genuine question, don’t know enough about football. 

Plenty, but the best examples are two of the best managers. Guardiola and Klopp.

[Mills and Boon]

1 minute ago, Holmesy said:

Are you pissed? Are you actually bothering to read these posts before you reply?

 

I didn’t say we play long ball football anywhere in my post. I said long ball football is still long ball football regardless of what formation you play - it was purely an example of where it doesn’t matter what formation is played when you only have one style of football in your locker. 

 

Ah right. Maybe don't bring long ball football into the conversation if it doesn't involve your point at all?

 

So we shouldn't run, press or cross as much, that it?

[Pilko]

4 minutes ago, LFEE said:

That would be structure and shape. This was just one if not two individual errors. Bruno due to probably fatigue and not tracking the run fully and Hall being slow to closing/blocking the shot though in his defence he’d just been clattered moments earlier.

 

What’s would you’ve trained better?

 

That's what our manager is paid handsomely to figure out, not me. But we've been pissing away late goals since August regularly and he hasn't found an answer.

 

I don't understand what you're interrogating here. The manager has spoken at length dozens of times about lack of training time and too many games at once being one of his biggest issues, which I can understand and to an extent accept. He's now had a three week gap for internationals followed by a week between each game, and yet the same problems with our play exist and don't look like getting any better. I don't know why me questioning what he's doing with that time he's cried out for is such a controversial thing to do.

 

EDIT: And in the case of Forest and Palace, two sides who'd just played Thursday night themselves with plenty of players missing on the Sunday and we generated one point from six in those games, despite the time on the training pitch he cited as being a big factor.

 

 

Edited May 10 by Pilko

[Holmesy]

Just now, Mills and Boon said:

 

Ah right. Maybe don't bring long ball football into the conversation if it doesn't involve your point at all?

 

So we shouldn't run, press or cross as much, that it?

Sorry pal, I’ll keep things more simple for you in future.

 

If you try hammering a nail with your wrong hand and keep smashing your thumb, would you change to your other hand or keep doing the same thing that injured you?

 

And no, I’m not suggesting we should play football with hammers. 

[Weezertron]

Am I the only Howe inner that will admit that he needs to do something to reinvent himself? 

[SUPERTOON]

For people definitely wanting him in, are you happy for more of the same in terms of style of plat, or are you wanting him to change ?

[Shadow Puppets]

2 minutes ago, Weezertron said:

Am I the only Howe inner that will admit that he needs to do something to reinvent himself? 

No, I completely agree. And I think the player personel change this summer will spark that.

[Wolfcastle]

3 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

Sorry pal, I’ll keep things more simple for you in future.

 

If you try hammering a nail with your wrong hand and keep smashing your thumb, would you change to your other hand or keep doing the same thing that injured you?

 

And no, I’m not suggesting we should play football with hammers. 

We've got to do that next week

[Shadow Puppets]

3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

For people definitely wanting him in, are you happy for more of the same in terms of style of plat, or are you wanting him to change ?

We’ve played some of the best football I’ve ever seen us play under him, so if we can get back to those levels, absolutely.

 

But obviously having more than one string to your bow would be nice.

 

 

Edited May 10 by Shadow Puppets

[Holmesy]

Just now, Wolfcastle said:

We've got to do that next week

🥁 😀

[Mills and Boon]

1 minute ago, Holmesy said:

Sorry pal, I’ll keep things more simple for you in future.

 

If you try hammering a nail with your wrong hand and keep smashing your thumb, would you change to your other hand or keep doing the same thing that injured you?

 

And no, I’m not suggesting we should play football with hammers. 

 

Ah. I think I get the problem. You don't know what you're talking about.

 

That's why you're bringing long ball football and hammers into it.

 

That's why you think we should play Woltemade in his proper position, despite him playing there more times this season than anywhere else and failing.

 

That's why you think formation doesn't matter but also it's a problem that Howe is wedded to 4-4-2 at Bournemouth and 4-3-3 here.

 

That's why you don't think Howe will change from a 4-3-3 to fit a number 10 in the side despite him doing exactly that today.

 

I get it now. Cheers

[vexred]

10 minutes ago, LFEE said:

That would be structure and shape. This was just one if not two individual errors. Bruno due to probably fatigue and not tracking the run fully and Hall being slow to closing/blocking the shot though in his defence he’d just been clattered moments earlier.

 

What’s would you’ve trained better?

 

Anyone watching could see Bruno needed to be subbed 10-15 mins prior. He was moving in slow motion. That's on Howe. Hall being at RB is also on Howe. Utterly preventable. 

[Kid Icarus]

4 minutes ago, Weezertron said:

Am I the only Howe inner that will admit that he needs to do something to reinvent himself? 

Admit implies people think it but won't say it doesn't it?  I think plenty think it like, personally I think we need changes everywhere, but I don't think we need to be ripping up everything and starting again like a lot of people seem to.

[bobbydazzla]

8 minutes ago, LFEE said:

That would be structure and shape. This was just one if not two individual errors. Bruno due to probably fatigue and not tracking the run fully and Hall being slow to closing/blocking the shot though in his defence he’d just been clattered moments earlier.

 

What’s would you’ve trained better?

If Bruno is running on fumes and Hall has been clattered and can’t run, then sub them. That’s on Howe if he leaves them on and that leads to a goal.
 

And to answer your point, I’d have trained them to hold onto 3 points like those points are the CTF Pink Stone diamond, for starters. 
 

Instead of pissing away more points by conceding late for the umpteenth time this season.

[Kimbo]

2 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

No, I completely agree. And I think the player personel change this summer will spark that.

It sounds like he doesn’t want to bring in too many players this summer though. 6 was too many last summer for him so I’m guessing he’ll want a max of 4.

[Holmesy]

Just now, Mills and Boon said:

 

Ah. I think I get the problem. You don't know what you're talking about.

 

That's why you're bringing long ball football and hammers into it.

 

That's why you think we should play Woltemade in his proper position, despite him playing there more times this season than anywhere else and failing.

 

That's why you think formation doesn't matter but also it's a problem that Howe is wedded to 4-4-2 at Bournemouth and 4-3-3 here.

 

That's why you don't think Howe will change from a 4-3-3 to fit a number 10 in the side despite him doing exactly that today.

 

I get it now. Cheers

Nailed it.

 

 

[Weezertron]

Just now, Shadow Puppets said:

No, I completely agree. And I think the player personel change this summer will spark that.

I hope so. I fear he’ll just lean towards bringing in players that’ll play his plan A system again. It’s the easy out. 
 

we’ll see 

[Begbie]

So much drama 🍿

 

 

Edited May 10 by Begbie

[Hovagod]

Asking what he could do in training to prevent individual goals is pretty disingenuous really. The point is an obvious one: Training should be improving all round performances in a way that it is not. 

[bobbydazzla]

17 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Biggest concern is the attack, it’s really bad at the moment and we are about to sell our best attacker.

Biggest concern is the defence. We can’t keep a clean sheet and concede fuckloads of goals, especially late on.

 

 

Edited May 10 by bobbydazzla

[Weezertron]

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

Admit implies people think it but won't say it doesn't it?  I think plenty think it like, personally I think we need changes everywhere, but I don't think we need to be ripping up everything and starting again like a lot of people seem to.

I’ve been reluctant to say it, but I’ve thought for a while that there is a lot of similarities between the staunch Howe in lot and MAGA. So yeah, a reluctance to admit that Howe must improve. 
 

 

[Zero]

2 minutes ago, Weezertron said:

I hope so. I fear he’ll just lean towards bringing in players that’ll play his plan A system again. It’s the easy out. 
 

we’ll see 

that’s what he did today and that’s why I am fuckin furious. He got it right the first 60 mins. I really thought he finally made a tiny breakthrough step and abandoned that fucking 433.

 

And he went back to it.