Gallowgate Toon Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 PSG have done alright since sacking Neymar & others off. Enrique's blueprint is a good shout for us. Lots of similarities with what Howe wants from his teams, but they have the fairly massive benefit of being able to play a third XI in the league while still winning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 PSG also put a massive priority on technical ability. Quite the difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mills and Boon Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 minute ago, Gallowgate Toon said: PSG have done alright since sacking Neymar & others off. Enrique's blueprint is a good shout for us. Lots of similarities with what Howe wants from his teams, but they have the fairly massive benefit of being able to play a third XI in the league while still winning. Yeah I almost mentioned them. Even when it was only Mbappe, the fact he was working for himself and not the team held them back despite him being a world class talent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mills and Boon Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 Doesn't matter what PSG do though, they still can't beat Eddie's grafters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Sunday at 19:05 Share Posted Sunday at 19:05 Record breakers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted Sunday at 19:21 Share Posted Sunday at 19:21 15 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Record breakers. That's the real quiz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted Sunday at 22:17 Share Posted Sunday at 22:17 3 hours ago, The Prophet said: Record breakers. Those bloody hot balls and dodgy draws have not been kind to us for years... Wouldn't be surprised if we had some kind of record do this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted Monday at 06:35 Share Posted Monday at 06:35 On 28/05/2026 at 18:29, Gallowgate Toon said: PSG have done alright since sacking Neymar & others off. Enrique's blueprint is a good shout for us. Lots of similarities with what Howe wants from his teams, but they have the fairly massive benefit of being able to play a third XI in the league while still winning. Are you sure? Enrique would never play Burn over Hall at LB. Mendes and Hakimi are probably the most attacking full backs in the world. And he emphasise a huge lot re ball passing and retention. Players like Ugarte are dumbed because they cannot meet his technical requirement. Enrique requires technical players to run and sacrifice for the team, but the players are allowed to do a lot of creative stuff. Howe simple wants athletes and strictly follow his order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Tuesday at 09:42 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:42 The Howe discourse on social media is a absolutely wild. Reading NO, I think there's an appreciation last season's league campaign was disappointing. Most of the debate comes from whether we should stick or twist on the managerial front, and there is merit to both arguments. Having had the misfortune of being briefly on Twitter, Blue Sky and Reddit in recent days... Eddie and Andy Howe are poison. We can't get a front of short sponsor because they're frightened of "Howe out" commentary. Our best players want to leave because of Eddie Howe. No playes want to join because of Eddie Howe. Eddie Howe has ruined the entire project. Don't get me wrong, I know it's an asylum out there, but fucking hell man, go outside and touch grass. Praise Vishnu I'm off social media these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted Tuesday at 09:43 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:43 Just now, The Prophet said: The Howe discourse on social media is a absolutely wild. Reading NO, I think there's an appreciation last season's league campaign was disappointing. Most of the debate comes from whether we should stick or twist on the managerial front, and there is merit to both arguments. Having had the misfortune of being briefly on Twitter, Blue Sky and Reddit in recent days... Eddie and Andy Howe are poison. We can't get a front of short sponsor because they're frightened of "Howe out" commentary. Our best players want to leave because of Eddie Howe. No playes want to join because of Eddie Howe. Eddie Howe has ruined the entire project. Don't get me wrong, I know it's an asylum out there, but fucking hell man, go outside and touch grass. Praise Vishnu I'm off social media these days. Avoid social media like the plague, here is the only place worth discussing things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Tuesday at 09:49 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:49 4 minutes ago, The Prophet said: The Howe discourse on social media is a absolutely wild. Reading NO, I think there's an appreciation last season's league campaign was disappointing. Most of the debate comes from whether we should stick or twist on the managerial front, and there is merit to both arguments. Having had the misfortune of being briefly on Twitter, Blue Sky and Reddit in recent days... Eddie and Andy Howe are poison. We can't get a front of short sponsor because they're frightened of "Howe out" commentary. Our best players want to leave because of Eddie Howe. No playes want to join because of Eddie Howe. Eddie Howe has ruined the entire project. Don't get me wrong, I know it's an asylum out there, but fucking hell man, go outside and touch grass. Praise Vishnu I'm off social media these days. Oof. I don’t think any of that is true, they’re some fucking bizarre takes. I still think that the end of the road should’ve been reached at the end of the season, but it hasn’t, so the hope has to be we recruit well and Howe and his team get back to playing well. It feels like a line in the sand moment to me - there’s zero point in starting the season not being behind the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milburn Posted Tuesday at 09:52 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:52 9 minutes ago, The Prophet said: The Howe discourse on social media is a absolutely wild. Reading NO, I think there's an appreciation last season's league campaign was disappointing. Most of the debate comes from whether we should stick or twist on the managerial front, and there is merit to both arguments. Having had the misfortune of being briefly on Twitter, Blue Sky and Reddit in recent days... Eddie and Andy Howe are poison. We can't get a front of short sponsor because they're frightened of "Howe out" commentary. Our best players want to leave because of Eddie Howe. No playes want to join because of Eddie Howe. Eddie Howe has ruined the entire project. Don't get me wrong, I know it's an asylum out there, but fucking hell man, go outside and touch grass. Praise Vishnu I'm off social media these days. Every debate ends up attracting a few extremists. But I also think some people are going too far in the other direction and dismissing any criticism as madness. You don't need to believe Howe has ruined the project, driven all the players away or scared off sponsors to conclude that a 12th-place finish after spending over £800m is nowhere near good enough. There is a perfectly rational middle ground between "Howe is destroying the club" and "nothing to see here, give him another season". Part of the concern is that he increasingly looks like a manager who has been figured out by almost every opponent he comes up against, and nearly every match seems to leave us with more questions than answers. A lot of us sit squarely in that middle ground. Personally, though, I can't bring myself to look forward to next season because I simply can't see Howe turning this around. In fact, I'd be willing to bet a significant amount of money that he'll be gone before Christmas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted Tuesday at 10:00 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:00 16 minutes ago, The Prophet said: The Howe discourse on social media is a absolutely wild. Reading NO, I think there's an appreciation last season's league campaign was disappointing. Most of the debate comes from whether we should stick or twist on the managerial front, and there is merit to both arguments. Having had the misfortune of being briefly on Twitter, Blue Sky and Reddit in recent days... Eddie and Andy Howe are poison. We can't get a front of short sponsor because they're frightened of "Howe out" commentary. Our best players want to leave because of Eddie Howe. No playes want to join because of Eddie Howe. Eddie Howe has ruined the entire project. Don't get me wrong, I know it's an asylum out there, but fucking hell man, go outside and touch grass. Praise Vishnu I'm off social media these days. Usually closely followed by the predictable, always from the same sources, "but not good enough for Newcastle eh lads?" appended whenever a manager that has been vaguely linked to us gets a job at a bigger club. Mourinho and Iraola being the two current flavours of the month on that front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted Tuesday at 10:00 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:00 16 minutes ago, The Prophet said: The Howe discourse on social media is a absolutely wild. Reading NO, I think there's an appreciation last season's league campaign was disappointing. Most of the debate comes from whether we should stick or twist on the managerial front, and there is merit to both arguments. Having had the misfortune of being briefly on Twitter, Blue Sky and Reddit in recent days... Eddie and Andy Howe are poison. We can't get a front of short sponsor because they're frightened of "Howe out" commentary. Our best players want to leave because of Eddie Howe. No playes want to join because of Eddie Howe. Eddie Howe has ruined the entire project. Don't get me wrong, I know it's an asylum out there, but fucking hell man, go outside and touch grass. Praise Vishnu I'm off social media these days. Definitely don't go on Twitter or Facebook... they're essentially holding pens for the mentally dispossessed. I find discussion on Bluesky to be quite reasonable and civil, but that may just be the NUFC fans I follow. And Reddit has always been a bit of a niche market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alreetworked Posted Tuesday at 10:02 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:02 3 minutes ago, Milburn said: You don't need to believe Howe has ruined the project, driven all the players away or scared off sponsors to conclude that a 12th-place finish after spending over £800m is nowhere near good enough. R16 in the Champions League while also getting to the Semi Final in the League cup, and R16 of the FA cup. I'm pretty sure there was a point in the season where only Barcelona had played the same amount of games as us in Europe. The idea that any of the none big 6 clubs that finished above us would have done that well while playing so many games against actual good quality opposition is laughable. Other than Bradford city in the league cup every other team we played in the domestic trophies was a premier league side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted Tuesday at 10:07 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:07 They are way over the top, that’s for sure. But I also think if we lose the first few games next season, these “over the top” bullshit will suddenly become the majority voice. Thats how critical this summer is. We are a sinking ship and this is the last chance to fix it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alreetworked Posted Tuesday at 10:10 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:10 16 minutes ago, Milburn said: You don't need to believe Howe has ruined the project, driven all the players away or scared off sponsors to conclude that a 12th-place finish after spending over £800m is nowhere near good enough. He's also overperformed on our position relative to expenditure every previous season which seems to be ignored too. Horrible rat fanbase we have where everyone seems to think things will just be better every season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Tuesday at 10:20 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:20 18 minutes ago, Alreetworked said: R16 in the Champions League while also getting to the Semi Final in the League cup, and R16 of the FA cup. I'm pretty sure there was a point in the season where only Barcelona had played the same amount of games as us in Europe. The idea that any of the none big 6 clubs that finished above us would have done that well while playing so many games against actual good quality opposition is laughable. Other than Bradford city in the league cup every other team we played in the domestic trophies was a premier league side. We played some absolute shite in Europe, mind. I don’t think we were drowning in games vs good quality opposition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted Tuesday at 10:39 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:39 31 minutes ago, Zero said: We are a sinking ship and this is the last chance to fix it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted Tuesday at 10:42 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:42 58 minutes ago, The Prophet said: The Howe discourse on social media is a absolutely wild. Reading NO, I think there's an appreciation last season's league campaign was disappointing. Most of the debate comes from whether we should stick or twist on the managerial front, and there is merit to both arguments. Having had the misfortune of being briefly on Twitter, Blue Sky and Reddit in recent days... Eddie and Andy Howe are poison. We can't get a front of short sponsor because they're frightened of "Howe out" commentary. Our best players want to leave because of Eddie Howe. No playes want to join because of Eddie Howe. Eddie Howe has ruined the entire project. Don't get me wrong, I know it's an asylum out there, but fucking hell man, go outside and touch grass. Praise Vishnu I'm off social media these days. Opinions are like arseholes, everybodies got one, some just stink more than others and make a louder noise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted Tuesday at 11:02 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:02 1 hour ago, Milburn said: Every debate ends up attracting a few extremists. But I also think some people are going too far in the other direction and dismissing any criticism as madness. You don't need to believe Howe has ruined the project, driven all the players away or scared off sponsors to conclude that a 12th-place finish after spending over £800m is nowhere near good enough. There is a perfectly rational middle ground between "Howe is destroying the club" and "nothing to see here, give him another season". Part of the concern is that he increasingly looks like a manager who has been figured out by almost every opponent he comes up against, and nearly every match seems to leave us with more questions than answers. A lot of us sit squarely in that middle ground. Personally, though, I can't bring myself to look forward to next season because I simply can't see Howe turning this around. In fact, I'd be willing to bet a significant amount of money that he'll be gone before Christmas. That's me. At present I can only see next season being more of the same as what we've watched last season which doesn't really fill me with many reasons to be excited. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted Tuesday at 11:03 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:03 1 hour ago, Alreetworked said: R16 in the Champions League while also getting to the Semi Final in the League cup, and R16 of the FA cup. I'm pretty sure there was a point in the season where only Barcelona had played the same amount of games as us in Europe. The idea that any of the none big 6 clubs that finished above us would have done that well while playing so many games against actual good quality opposition is laughable. Other than Bradford city in the league cup every other team we played in the domestic trophies was a premier league side. We were pretty poor from August though. We won 1 of our first games (an undeserved 1-0 at home to Wolves). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alreetworked Posted Tuesday at 11:05 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:05 (edited) 44 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: We played some absolute shite in Europe, mind. I don’t think we were drowning in games vs good quality opposition. Barcelona x3 Benfica Athletic Club Marseille Leverkusen PSV PSG All those are good / top sides Qarabag & Union SG are the only ones you could call absolute shit, but they aren't, we just completely outclassed them. They're decent sides in weaker leagues that were potential banana skins. Qarabag beat Frankfurt, Copenhagen, Benfica and drew with Chelsea. Union beat PSV, Galatasaray and Atalanta. Edited Tuesday at 11:05 by Alreetworked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Tuesday at 11:07 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:07 1 minute ago, Alreetworked said: Barcelona x3 Benfica Athletic Club Marseille Leverkusen PSV PSG All those are good / top sides Qarabag & Union SG are the only ones you could call absolute shit, but they aren't, we just completely outclassed them. They're decent sides in weaker leagues that were potential banana skins. Qarabag beat Frankfurt, Copenhagen, Benfica and drew with Chelsea. Union beat PSV, Galatasaray and Atalanta. I’d argue several of those are grand old clubs with mediocre sides who’d have a good chance of being relegated in the PL. Spurs finished 4th in the CL table Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted Tuesday at 11:07 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:07 4 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said: That's me. At present I can only see next season being more of the same as what we've watched last season which doesn't really fill me with many reasons to be excited. Why would you feel excited? All we've done so far is sell one of our best players for at best, a par fee. Once we actually start making some signings which show some promise, I think that's the time to get excited. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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