Eddie Howe

[The College Dropout]

6 minutes ago, 54 said:

Other than Livramento, what was he meant to do like?

Aye start Livra. He’s been our best player recently. Would’ve liked to have seen Hall in midfield. Wouldn’t have had Joe at 9.  Gordon’s shown flashes there at times. 
 

But the worst thing is the performance was awful. 
 

The Tonali suspension and our lack of options in forward areas is really hurting us.  This season always had the potential for mounting injuries and not being able to play in our preferred style.  And here it is. 
 

 

Need bodies back refreshed after the IB

 

 

Edited November 11, 2023 by The College Dropout

[Myleftboot]

1 minute ago, gbandit said:

Feel sorry for Eddie. He had no choices really with his lineup, minimal at best. Worse than that though, the players who did get fielded were either broken from too many minutes or from not being match fit

Thing is though he still had lascelles,Joelinton,Longstaff,trippier,pope,shar,Gordon,Willock,Almiron. That’s still a good team and these blokes are athletes who should able to play twice a week. 

[Bally21]

We had limited choices in terms of selection, not sure what else Eddie could have done in terms of starting 11 bar livramento, players looked knackered, Bournemouth pressed us to death which was spot on tactically bearing in mind our fatigue, missing players, etc.

[The College Dropout]

1 minute ago, Myleftboot said:

Thing is though he still had lascelles,Joelinton,Longstaff,trippier,pope,shar,Gordon,Willock,Almiron. That’s still a good team and these blokes are athletes who should able to play twice a week. 

Our style is so hard running though. If we can’t out run the other team - what do we have? Considering the injuries.  

 

 

Edited November 11, 2023 by The College Dropout

[thomas]

Just now, HaydnNUFC said:

He had/has no options so critique of the team selection in hilarious.

 

A lot of people throughout the season have been perplexed at his relative lack of rotation. Obviously no way of knowing what kind of injury list we'd be looking at if more had been given time, etc .. but I think we're reaping some small bit of what he sowed now.

[gbandit]

Just now, Myleftboot said:

Thing is though he still had lascelles,Joelinton,Longstaff,trippier,pope,shar,Gordon,Willock,Almiron. That’s still a good team and these blokes are athletes who should able to play twice a week. 

Howay man, that’s just nonsense. Joelinton and Willock have had injuries and probably aren’t absolutely match fit, certainly not for multiple games a week at highest intensity. Almiron runs himself into the ground every game and we saw that he can’t sustain that today without an injury. Trippier is clearly absolutely shattered, both physically and mentally. He has played the most minutes while also going away on international duty. Gordon has done the most sprints out of anyone in the league I’m sure. This idea that athletes can be robots is utter shite 

[Geogaddi]

Would appear not many have learned after that Brighton game .

[The College Dropout]

With the personnel we have available it was always going to be a tough day.  We needed a sharp counter attack and a compact team and we had neither. 
 

 

Eventually we need to be able to dominate the ball but we are a long way from that.  

[Myleftboot]

1 minute ago, gbandit said:

Howay man, that’s just nonsense. Joelinton and Willock have had injuries and probably aren’t absolutely match fit, certainly not for multiple games a week at highest intensity. Almiron runs himself into the ground every game and we saw that he can’t sustain that today without an injury. Trippier is clearly absolutely shattered, both physically and mentally. He has played the most minutes while also going away on international duty. Gordon has done the most sprints out of anyone in the league I’m sure. This idea that athletes can be robots is utter shite 

They are payed athletes man howay,fitness shouldn’t come into it.

[MrRaspberryJam]

4 minutes ago, Myleftboot said:

Thing is though he still had lascelles,Joelinton,Longstaff,trippier,pope,shar,Gordon,Willock,Almiron. That’s still a good team and these blokes are athletes who should able to play twice a week. 

For fucks sake man takes like these are the absolute pits. 

[MrRaspberryJam]

Just now, Myleftboot said:

They are payed athletes man howay,fitness shouldn’t come into it.

Why shouldn’t it?

[HaydnNUFC]

1 minute ago, thomas said:

A lot of people throughout the season have been perplexed at his relative lack of rotation. Obviously no way of knowing what kind of injury list we'd be looking at if more had been given time, etc .. but I think we're reaping some small bit of what he sowed now.

 

I know what you mean. Obviously you can't predict injuries or gambling addictions but the summer was not good at all. We seriously lack depth at CB and across the front and we're having a 33 year old Trippier play 3 games a week whilst we have a more than competent deputy for him.

[Andy84]

Aye don’t know what’s worse the defeat or the absolute shite that will be spouted. Actually I do know 

[Myleftboot]

Just now, MrRaspberryJam said:

Why shouldn’t it?

That’s their job mate.

[midds]

Nothing worse than managers and fans hiding behind injuries as an excuse to explain and excuse bad performances and results. Yes, they're part of the context and reason but they're not the be all and end all. We played poorly tonight and Bournemouth were better, took their chances and deservedly won and I hope and expect to hear Howe come out and say so. We're a PL team with a PL squad and the team he picked tonight didn't do enough and it happens. We rarely lose to bottom half teams but we did tonight - Howe and all of us need to take it on the chin and own it.  

[MrRaspberryJam]

Just now, Myleftboot said:

That’s their job mate.

What is?

[Myleftboot]

Just now, MrRaspberryJam said:

What is?

Fitness for one. I don’t get this ‘they are tired’ shite. Thats what they get paid to do.

[Matt1892]

3 minutes ago, midds said:

Nothing worse than managers and fans hiding behind injuries as an excuse to explain and excuse bad performances and results. Yes, they're part of the context and reason but they're not the be all and end all. We played poorly tonight and Bournemouth were better, took their chances and deservedly won and I hope and expect to hear Howe come out and say so. We're a PL team with a PL squad and the team he picked tonight didn't do enough and it happens. We rarely lose to bottom half teams but we did tonight - Howe and all of us need to take it on the chin and own it.  

Tactically we were really poor, we set up like we were playing Man City away not Bournemouth.

[Bossman]

2 minutes ago, Myleftboot said:

Fitness for one. I don’t get this ‘they are tired’ shite. Thats what they get paid to do.

Clearly thick or a WUM

[Rafalove]

1 minute ago, Myleftboot said:

Fitness for one. I don’t get this ‘they are tired’ shite. Thats what they get paid to do.

 

 

They’re not robots.

[MrRaspberryJam]

3 minutes ago, Myleftboot said:

Fitness for one. I don’t get this ‘they are tired’ shite. Thats what they get paid to do.

So you don’t believe athletes should get tired?

 

We’ve played 9 times since start of October in comparison to Bournemouths six. 
 

We’ve had to play Paris and Dortmund twice. 
 

How do you ensure our players are kept as fresh as Bournemouths despite playing those extra games?

 

 

Edited November 11, 2023 by MrRaspberryJam

[HaydnNUFC]

We haven't looked close to winning a game without Bruno, this season or last. Against some dross sides as well. 

[KaKa]

Livramento played the whole 90 mid week I believe.

 

He has had a big injurynin his young career and is still working his way back to regular football.

 

Don't fault the manager for being careful with him.

[BShearer]

rotation is something he didnt need to do too much previously. never managed in Europe before did he, on top of domestic league?

expect same at Brighton, they jumped into European football from not being there ever probably, and even tho they have lot easier EL games than us in CL, they will feel it badly come Dec and January.

Howe needs to learn rottion is crucial in a schedule like this, was very surprised 1-1.5 month ago when the starter was almost the same every game in PL, in CL.

he would probably start Burn, Botman, Schar, Tripper backline in every single game if he could. will not work long term if we are in Europe too.

 

its not just the extra 6 group games its lack of time to work on next game, lack of time for relax, more injuries with more games etc. it all adds up. our CL games are brutal, all high tempo top teams with vast experience in CL all can easily reach QF's. not most of the opponents of our PL rivals like Red Star, Young Boys, Copenhagen, Lens, PSV etc. these would be ripped apart by our CL opponents.

 

on top of that  brutal unlucky Carabao draw.

 

with his playing style we need a much bigger squad, obviously FFP restricted us while our two main transfers ended up being out quite early.

 

dont underestimate a new signing coming and hitting it straightaway look at Doku, Maddison, Rice all adding lot of value. For us it was Tonali what a crash it became with his ban, and Barnes got a longer injury before he even could have started to perform.

 

 

[Mikky]

Think next season we will definitely be in better shape - can see us signing 3 players and bringing Minteh back