Shearergol Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Just now, Ikon said: I've been against the signing of Barnes in a way from the beginning. Said he's a good effective player but not the type we need or for that side either. As fans we're never gonna get the exact team we want to see. I make it pretty clear that I want to see a Rodri type in this side, but it's not gonna happen. I'm not gonna blame Howe for it - weirdly the proven Premier league manager thinks differently to a guy sat on his laptop. That doesn't make the transfer window a disaster* - the suspension and injuries are the disaster. * The Hall thing is a bit weird though, admittedly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Chances are, if we'd kept Maxi, we'd not have signed Barnes or Livramento. Howe pretty much alluded to this at the time. It gave us some wiggle room. Short-term this season it might have made us better, but what about when the time came to replace Trippier for instance. Would a player like Livramento have been available to us? I think Tino is the right signing to do though. Not Barnes. I see Barnes as a bit of waste of money compared to Tino who has massive potential as well as already being very good. Even if not replacing Trippier directly. I dont think Barnes is the right choice, neither is he a good "investment". Tino was worth the spend even if not starting straight away. Edited March 12 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Chris_R said: Fucking crazy that people are talking about moving Howe on. Give your heads a shake. Still 100% backing from me. 4th last year, and the escape the year before, were miracles. This year, 4th was always going to be much harder than last year just because of the extra games, and other teams strengthening around us. 7th would've always been an "OK" season this year. Throw in Tonali's ban and an injury crisis the likes of which we've never seen before and the season is a write-off. We just need to limp home and try again next year. If 7th was decent coming into this season, 11th isn't sacking level when you consider the above too. It's barely even disappointing. If anything, it's inevitable given what's happened. I'd be gutted if he left, and absolutely devastated if some dinosaur like Mourinho came in to replace him. It's absolutely crazy to even be discussing it, and doing it would reflect extremely badly on the owners. Personally I've had enough of supporting a circus. Edited March 12 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: So wrong. Fair enough - clearly you know something I don't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Ikon said: I think Tino is the right signing to do though. Not Barnes. I see Barnes as a bit of waste of money compared to Tino who has massive potential as well as already being very good. Even if not replacing Trippier directly. I dont think Barnes is the right choice, neither is he a good "investment". I'm not sure about Barnes TBH. One thing we needed was goals from wide areas and Barnes is all about that. I don't think there is another more natural goalscorer in the squad outside of Isak and Wilson. It's true that it's a shame he plays the same side as Gordon, but we do want good options and Gordon himself is very versatile. Ultimately if Barnes had stayed fit we probably wouldn't be having this conversation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said: I'm not sure about Barnes TBH. One thing we needed was goals from wide areas and Barnes is all about that. I don't think there is another more natural goalscorer in the squad outside of Isak and Wilson. It's true that it's a shame he plays the same side as Gordon, but we do want good options and Gordon himself is very versatile. Ultimately if Barnes had stayed fit we probably wouldn't be having this conversation. Injuries can't be an excuse though dude. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: Injuries can't be an excuse though dude. Well actually they are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) 7 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I'm not sure about Barnes TBH. One thing we needed was goals from wide areas and Barnes is all about that. I don't think there is another more natural goalscorer in the squad outside of Isak and Wilson. It's true that it's a shame he plays the same side as Gordon, but we do want good options and Gordon himself is very versatile. Ultimately if Barnes had stayed fit we probably wouldn't be having this conversation. Maybe between us no, but i've been against the Barnes signing to a degree from the beginning, for many reasons. Edited March 12 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 The only thing I'm genuinely annoyed about is how he's handled Gordon and a few others in the last month or so. The rest is kind of 'whatever, see you in August.' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 One huge reason we had the best defence in the league last season and not so much this season, was because we had Pope, we had a consistent eleven that didn't see many injuries, and was rarely meddled with, we also had natural leaders in the first eleven more often than this season, Trippier, Wilson, Joelinton, Burn, Pope. Right now we've got an inconsistent eleven, missing leaders, and players playing their first season and still learning the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanage Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 37 minutes ago, simonsays said: I have a feeling he will get the England job after the Euros - as much as I hope he will stay I think him taking over from Southgate could let the owners get the higher profile manager many think they want without the indignity of sacking Howe. Would explain a lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Not a chance be manages England any time in the best future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) Two things give me hope about Barnes, his stats and Leicester fans' reaction to him leaving (from what I read online). This is all a distraction anyway, it was Tonali who made our transfer window a disaster and that's down to him. I also have far more reservations about him being a success on the pitch than Barnes. Edited March 12 by macphisto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 7 minutes ago, Orphanage said: Would explain a lot What would it explain? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upthemags Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 10 minutes ago, mighty__mag said: One huge reason we had the best defence in the league last season and not so much this season, was because we had Pope, we had a consistent eleven that didn't see many injuries, and was rarely meddled with, we also had natural leaders in the first eleven more often than this season, Trippier, Wilson, Joelinton, Burn, Pope. Right now we've got an inconsistent eleven, missing leaders, and players playing their first season and still learning the game. Agree but would add: Our gameplan last season seemed different, as well. Felt as though we'd press the living daylight out of the opposing side for about 45 minutes, we'd inevitably catch them out and grab a goal or two, and then second half we'd sit much deeper and defend for our lives, block passing and shooting lanes, and hang on for dear life. We don't really do the high pressing bit anymore (we did for about 5-10 minutes last night, though), and I suspect a lot of that is just down to fitness/injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 We need to have a strong end to the season. If we’re still continuing to concede like we are doing and fail to improve our points per game ratio, I would be open-minded to a change in the summer. I really hate the idea of just writing off a season as well. Not sure if people just use it as a comfort blanket against expectations, but it’s the type of sentiment I want the club to move on from. A bottom-half finish would represent a very poor season in my view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 12 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Not a chance be manages England any time in the best future. Who do you think gets it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Just now, TRC said: Who do you think gets it? No idea, but if you put a gun to my head right now I'd say Stevie Cooper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 15 minutes ago, Interpolic said: What would it explain? Hall. Targett's injury. Why Ashworth is wanted by Man United. Why the atmosphere isn't always great. The Wood hattrick. Bruno's no-look pass. All of that stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) The owners have stated on multiple occasions that they are patient, long-term investors, we need to be patient too with this IMO. Howe is extremely good at developing players. Get the recruitment right and the academy working and he will produce the goods. Sometimes circumstances lead to shitty outcomes. This season is one of those cases IMO. Get what we can out of this season, reload and go again with full support. Edited March 12 by Dr Venkman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 11 minutes ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said: We need to have a strong end to the season. If we’re still continuing to concede like we are doing and fail to improve our points per game ratio, I would be open-minded to a change in the summer. I really hate the idea of just writing off a season as well. Not sure if people just use it as a comfort blanket against expectations, but it’s the type of sentiment I want the club to move on from. A bottom-half finish would represent a very poor season in my view. We should still finish in the top 10, but the reason I'm mostly writing it off is I think it's just the reality of the situation. We're still missing key players and most of our first XI is in desperate need of a summer break. It's the most obvious explanation for why we just look different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said: The owners have stated on multiple occasions that they are patient, long-term investors, we need to be patient too with this IMO. Howe is extremely good at developing players. Get the recruitment right and the academy working and he will produce the goods. Sometimes circumstances lead to shitty outcomes. This season is one of those cases IMO. Get what we can out of this season, reload and go again with full support. We'll learn a lot about the leadership if we finish 11th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 Just now, The College Dropout said: We'll learn a lot about the leadership if we finish 11th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: We'll learn a lot about the leadership if we finish 11th. Its incredibly difficult for us to finish 11th. If we do I'd imagine the Saudis step in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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