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Just now, Weezertron said:

It should really be as easy as 'Does their winger have good pace?' then don't start Burn. 

 

We all love Burn, but the fact is he's slow. 

In fairness other than against Bailey, Burn generally does well against fast players.

 

There's been plenty times people have said things like "Saka will rinse Burn" but it's never happened. Luton are playing with a front 3 and Ogbene as wingback though and he's isolated him 1v1 and absolutely roasted him all game, Howe should have taken him off after 10 minutes.

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Just now, Hanshithispantz said:

In fairness other than against Bailey, Burn generally does well against fast players.

 

There's been plenty times people have said things like "Saka will rinse Burn" but it's never happened. Luton are playing with a front 3 and Ogbene as wingback though and he's isolated him 1v1 and absolutely roasted him all game, Howe should have taken him off after 10 minutes.

 

The reason it often doesn't happen is that the pacey winger is doubled up on by Joelinton or Gordon. It's been rare historically that Burn has been allowed to be isolated 1v1.

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5 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

In fairness other than against Bailey, Burn generally does well against fast players.

 

There's been plenty times people have said things like "Saka will rinse Burn" but it's never happened. Luton are playing with a front 3 and Ogbene as wingback though and he's isolated him 1v1 and absolutely roasted him all game, Howe should have taken him off after 10 minutes.

Fair point but not sure why you'd risk a shit start to a game, given we have a fast talented fullback on the bench who has already proven himself.

 

Shit, I only just remembered that 'dont change the back four' rule. haha. Nevermind

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

In fairness other than against Bailey, Burn generally does well against fast players.

 

There's been plenty times people have said things like "Saka will rinse Burn" but it's never happened. Luton are playing with a front 3 and Ogbene as wingback though and he's isolated him 1v1 and absolutely roasted him all game, Howe should have taken him off after 10 minutes.

 

I kind of wonder why Livra lost his place though? He barely had a bad game. It seems like Livra is held to a way higher standard than Burn for some reason, because Burn can drop stinkers without losing his place while Livra has to be a world beater to keep it. Maybe it's tactical? I just feel like it doesn't really send the right message. Right now they are not really competing for the spot, because Burn will play nomatter what.

 

 

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People need to not get their knickers in a twist at the criticism he will rightly come in for after this game, even if we win it. Burn has been a problem for most of this season, culminating in a fucking shambles today. Eddie needs to get ruthless and stop picking his favourites. Burn is not good enough for the type is football we want to play

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2 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

I kind of wonder why Livra lost his place though? He barely had a bad game. It seems like Livra is held to a way higher standard than Burn for some reason, because Burn can drop stinkers without losing his place while Livra has to be a world beater to keep it. Maybe it's tactical? I just feel like it doesn't really send the right message.

 

 

 

Because he became ill? Because in his last start he had a bit of a 'mare? Because we've not been in a great moment and we need experienced calm heads?

 

Or is it because our manager is a knacker? Honestly the ridiculous flip-flopping of some on this forum makes me wonder if Lithium might be beneficial?

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14 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said:

Because he became ill? Because in his last start he had a bit of a 'mare? Because we've not been in a great moment and we need experienced calm heads?

 

Or is it because our manager is a knacker? Honestly the ridiculous flip-flopping of some on this forum makes me wonder if Lithium might be beneficial?

 

When was the last time Burn got dropped for having a bad game? Livramento has been way more consistent overall, so why is it then that Burn keeps the spot regardless of his overall performances compared to Livra?

 

 

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Will so many performances like this make the owners think twice? 

Just asking, not wanting Howe out. But imagine if Bruce produced something like this.. 

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After so much good work against Villa, resulting in an excellent performance and result, he had a bad day at the office today. Too much space in behind the midfield and persisted with Burn for far too long. 

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He made the right change, just too late. Same happened against Villa but we got away with it that time; we barely did here. Hopefully he addresses that very glaring issue. 

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Just now, Yorkie said:

He made the right change, just too late. Same happened against Villa but we got away with it that time; we barely did here. Hopefully he addresses that very glaring issue. 


He won’t. Love Eddie to bits but he doesn’t see things that need changing until it’s obvious to even the blind drunks.

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I think he has the Southgate mentality where he believes that giving players the comfort of knowing they'll always start, even if they have a run of bad form, gets the best out of them. Will not be surprised to see Burn back in the team again. Hopefully, this was Burn's worst performance of the season and the approach Howe takes pays off. I get what he is doing with it, and I think there is a lot of merit in it. Just frustrating as hell. 

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Poor really, whoever mentioned about Eddie Howe being reactive and not proactive was spot on.

The match was screaming that Dan Burn shouldn't have been involved.

 

Only thing I question of Eddie is his reluctantancy to change things, and his desire to always stick with certain players.

Dan Burn walked straight back into the side like he's Maldini after Tino had been arguably our best player in that injury period. I can understand Botman coming straight back in for Lascelles because Botman is so good, but the consistency to hold a torch to Burn and some others are where I question Eddie.

 

I still love him though, and hope he works it all out.

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Love him but not all of our stinkers this year were injury related. Needs to stop it with this fucking playing-favourites shit.

 

If this doesn't change him being gone in not too long is a matter of when not if by this point. I very badly want him to succeed as his football philosophy had us playing the best football in years.

 

 

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4 points from these games feels like a good return. But when 1 of them is the result of being played off the park for an hour at home to Luton and conceding 4 in the process. It sours it a bit. 
 

It’s a bit worrying that we had no control whatsoever against a team that ‘should’ be miles behind us based on players and budgets. Yet they were far more composed and clever with their play and their passing for the majority of the game. 
 

The fortress isn’t quite as strong this season. 

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