Weezertron Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 It should really be as easy as 'Does their winger have good pace?' then don't start Burn. We all love Burn, but the fact is he's slow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I totally agree Howe has got this wrong this Burn. I'm just not having a world were the forum knackers feel empowered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Just now, Weezertron said: It should really be as easy as 'Does their winger have good pace?' then don't start Burn. We all love Burn, but the fact is he's slow. In fairness other than against Bailey, Burn generally does well against fast players. There's been plenty times people have said things like "Saka will rinse Burn" but it's never happened. Luton are playing with a front 3 and Ogbene as wingback though and he's isolated him 1v1 and absolutely roasted him all game, Howe should have taken him off after 10 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Just now, Hanshithispantz said: In fairness other than against Bailey, Burn generally does well against fast players. There's been plenty times people have said things like "Saka will rinse Burn" but it's never happened. Luton are playing with a front 3 and Ogbene as wingback though and he's isolated him 1v1 and absolutely roasted him all game, Howe should have taken him off after 10 minutes. The reason it often doesn't happen is that the pacey winger is doubled up on by Joelinton or Gordon. It's been rare historically that Burn has been allowed to be isolated 1v1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I'm desperate for Howe to stay with us, but fuck me, persisting with certain players when they're getting massacred on the pitch is troubling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: In fairness other than against Bailey, Burn generally does well against fast players. There's been plenty times people have said things like "Saka will rinse Burn" but it's never happened. Luton are playing with a front 3 and Ogbene as wingback though and he's isolated him 1v1 and absolutely roasted him all game, Howe should have taken him off after 10 minutes. Fair point but not sure why you'd risk a shit start to a game, given we have a fast talented fullback on the bench who has already proven himself. Shit, I only just remembered that 'dont change the back four' rule. haha. Nevermind Edited February 3 by Weezertron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: In fairness other than against Bailey, Burn generally does well against fast players. There's been plenty times people have said things like "Saka will rinse Burn" but it's never happened. Luton are playing with a front 3 and Ogbene as wingback though and he's isolated him 1v1 and absolutely roasted him all game, Howe should have taken him off after 10 minutes. I kind of wonder why Livra lost his place though? He barely had a bad game. It seems like Livra is held to a way higher standard than Burn for some reason, because Burn can drop stinkers without losing his place while Livra has to be a world beater to keep it. Maybe it's tactical? I just feel like it doesn't really send the right message. Right now they are not really competing for the spot, because Burn will play nomatter what. Edited February 3 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 People need to not get their knickers in a twist at the criticism he will rightly come in for after this game, even if we win it. Burn has been a problem for most of this season, culminating in a fucking shambles today. Eddie needs to get ruthless and stop picking his favourites. Burn is not good enough for the type is football we want to play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 2 minutes ago, Erikse said: I kind of wonder why Livra lost his place though? He barely had a bad game. It seems like Livra is held to a way higher standard than Burn for some reason, because Burn can drop stinkers without losing his place while Livra has to be a world beater to keep it. Maybe it's tactical? I just feel like it doesn't really send the right message. Because he became ill? Because in his last start he had a bit of a 'mare? Because we've not been in a great moment and we need experienced calm heads? Or is it because our manager is a knacker? Honestly the ridiculous flip-flopping of some on this forum makes me wonder if Lithium might be beneficial? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: Because he became ill? Because in his last start he had a bit of a 'mare? Because we've not been in a great moment and we need experienced calm heads? Or is it because our manager is a knacker? Honestly the ridiculous flip-flopping of some on this forum makes me wonder if Lithium might be beneficial? When was the last time Burn got dropped for having a bad game? Livramento has been way more consistent overall, so why is it then that Burn keeps the spot regardless of his overall performances compared to Livra? Edited February 3 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Deserved all the praise after Villa. Really poor today. Got to take a lot of the blame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Will so many performances like this make the owners think twice? Just asking, not wanting Howe out. But imagine if Bruce produced something like this.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 After so much good work against Villa, resulting in an excellent performance and result, he had a bad day at the office today. Too much space in behind the midfield and persisted with Burn for far too long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 He made the right change, just too late. Same happened against Villa but we got away with it that time; we barely did here. Hopefully he addresses that very glaring issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
catlover24 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Expect the usual “I’ve rewatched the game five times” next week and then still putting Burn in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetsbaiaIsBald Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 He set up Burn up to fail today. I love Burn, but play him when it fucking makes sense. This is the first time I've been proper annoyed with Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Just now, Yorkie said: He made the right change, just too late. Same happened against Villa but we got away with it that time; we barely did here. Hopefully he addresses that very glaring issue. He won’t. Love Eddie to bits but he doesn’t see things that need changing until it’s obvious to even the blind drunks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Burn isn't good against pace most the time, even worse in 2nd halves Wish Howe was more pro-active, the dangers were so clear to be seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I think he has the Southgate mentality where he believes that giving players the comfort of knowing they'll always start, even if they have a run of bad form, gets the best out of them. Will not be surprised to see Burn back in the team again. Hopefully, this was Burn's worst performance of the season and the approach Howe takes pays off. I get what he is doing with it, and I think there is a lot of merit in it. Just frustrating as hell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Injuries have obviously impacted his team selections throughout the season, but it is concerning how he’s been failing to learn lessons from previous performances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) Right I’m going to say it.Eddie howe outstanding coach not so good manager? Edited February 3 by Myleftboot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BShearer Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 1 point total from 6 vs mighty Luton Town. Tonali alone cost more than whole Luton squad cost probably. these are not issues we can only fix with more transfers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Poor really, whoever mentioned about Eddie Howe being reactive and not proactive was spot on. The match was screaming that Dan Burn shouldn't have been involved. Only thing I question of Eddie is his reluctantancy to change things, and his desire to always stick with certain players. Dan Burn walked straight back into the side like he's Maldini after Tino had been arguably our best player in that injury period. I can understand Botman coming straight back in for Lascelles because Botman is so good, but the consistency to hold a torch to Burn and some others are where I question Eddie. I still love him though, and hope he works it all out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 (edited) Love him but not all of our stinkers this year were injury related. Needs to stop it with this fucking playing-favourites shit. If this doesn't change him being gone in not too long is a matter of when not if by this point. I very badly want him to succeed as his football philosophy had us playing the best football in years. Edited February 3 by Amir_9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 4 points from these games feels like a good return. But when 1 of them is the result of being played off the park for an hour at home to Luton and conceding 4 in the process. It sours it a bit. It’s a bit worrying that we had no control whatsoever against a team that ‘should’ be miles behind us based on players and budgets. Yet they were far more composed and clever with their play and their passing for the majority of the game. The fortress isn’t quite as strong this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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