Eddie Howe

[Erikse]

1 minute ago, JEToon said:

 

He's not getting 30 minutes each game, his average for the season has been closer to 50 minutes a game, factoring in his return from a long time off and late start to the season and lack of a true preseason it's not a great shock his minutes are slightly down relative to others, he doesn't simply sit on the bench 

 

In a league where sides throw all subs on the park most games, yes, players will in this day and age be down from averaging 90 minutes a game 

 

My use of "currently" was meant to mean right now. I guess next weekend will be quite telling. He might make changes after a performance like that.

[JEToon]

Just now, Erikse said:

 

My use of "currently" was meant to mean right now. I guess next weekend will be quite telling. He might make changes after a performance like that.

 

We aren't playing right now.  I expect he will make changes yes, football is a squad game, managers rarely simply run the same 11 into the ground for 90 minutes each week. 

[TRon]

37 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

Agree we were very unlucky last season. Injuries, the penalty farce in Paris, plus what you've mentioned.

 

However this season hasn't been a bad luck story, it's just been bang average, results and performances.

 

There were plenty of legitimate reasons for last seasons downturn but there isn't for what's happened so far this season.

 

I also think that losing his 2 biggest allies in Amanda and Mehrdad might be telling.

 

Looking at the team yesterday and the subs, I was thinking to myself, that is one hell of a strong bench. Not many teams could boast Tonali, Barnes, Wilson and Almiron on theirs, that's for sure. You could write it off as a bad day, but we've had far too many already this season.

 

There's still time to turn it around with everyone beating everyone, but we can't afford to be losing to too many shit teams second half of the season. The teams that qualify for Europe will be the ones who can figure out a consistent and effective style of play.

[Erikse]

5 minutes ago, JEToon said:

 

We aren't playing right now.  I expect he will make changes yes, football is a squad game, managers rarely simply run the same 11 into the ground for 90 minutes each week. 

 

True, but Howe isn't known to rotate all that much either. He often prefers to stick with the same team. A bad performance could ofcourse change it.

[Yorkie]

1 hour ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

Do you think the money we spent then had zero impact on PSR that we whinge about all the time? Do you think the two players whom cost the most money yet the manager does not regularly pick to be in his starting XI 18 months on have been good buys? Do you think those signings have improved the team from 2022-23?

 

We've been over this before like you say so I won't labour the point, but in summary my view is that the 23/24 summer window was a good one, which was completely undermined by not supplementing it in 24/25. The jury's out on Tonali but the rest were all good signings. 

 

PSR is a cunt, btw. It shouldn't exist. It's not a minor inconvenience which we whinge about, as if our problems are of our own making. It's inherently keeping us at arms length. 

[KaKa]

3 hours ago, joeyt said:

 

Bruno played at the base of midfield in the 4th place season despite Shelvey being here for the first half of that

 

When Shelvey was in the first team with Bruno he played at the base with Bruno higher up.

[HaydnNUFC]

5 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

We've been over this before like you say so I won't labour the point, but in summary my view is that the 23/24 summer window was a good one, which was completely undermined by not supplementing it in 24/25. The jury's out on Tonali but the rest were all good signings. 

 

PSR is a cunt, btw. It shouldn't exist. It's not a minor inconvenience which we whinge about, as if our problems are of our own making. It's inherently keeping us at arms length. 

 

We knew about the rules from the outset and haven't managed it well though, imo. We've been poor sellers since the takeover and that the recruitment strategy was criticised by the current DOF in public should speak enough volumes, not excusing the shambles of a summer window we've just had.

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by HaydnNUFC

[timeEd32]

40 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

We've been over this before like you say so I won't labour the point, but in summary my view is that the 23/24 summer window was a good one, which was completely undermined by not supplementing it in 24/25. The jury's out on Tonali but the rest were all good signings. 

 

PSR is a cunt, btw. It shouldn't exist. It's not a minor inconvenience which we whinge about, as if our problems are of our own making. It's inherently keeping us at arms length. 

 

The two are inextricably linked though. We sold two players, bought a useless keeper above his market value, and no one else because of how much we spent and the lack of sales the previous summer/January.

[Erikse]

5 minutes ago, timeEd32 said:

 

The two are inextricably linked though. We sold two players, bought a useless keeper above his market value, and no one else because of how much we spent and the lack of sales the previous summer/January.

 

And apparfently we will still have problems in january, seemingly having to sell if we buy.

 

 

Edited 47 minutes ago by Erikse

[Wolfcastle]

Tonali and Barnes were fine additions to the building of a club going to the top - supplemented with more of the same over following seasons changing the whole squad to top rank.

For a club that basically cant go beyond 7th with all things being equal they weren't good signings, bit on the luxurious side rather than the smarter business of earlier

[Keggy_Keagal]

35 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

And apparfently we will still have problems in january, seemingly having to sell if we buy.

 

 

 

How can we be this up against it? This would be the third window with very little movements regards to incoming players. We were chasing a 60-70 million centre half in July . 

[Erikse]

6 minutes ago, Keggy_Keagal said:

How can we be this up against it? This would be the third window with very little movements regards to incoming players. We were chasing a 60-70 million centre half in July . 

 

I don't really know myself, but look at the last discussion in the NUFC specific FFP/PSR discussion thread. It's apparently about amortization from old transfers and wages being about even with our income, and that we would be relying on selling if we got Guehi in the summer. Also there were some talk of us actually bidding less for Guehi than what was reported. Didn't someone inside the club state that? Don't remember tbh. Not sure how much of this is true.

 

 

Edited 4 minutes ago by Erikse

[Barnes23]

6 hours ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

You'd probably be looking at foreign managers that are out of work. Potter would be a sideways step at best. If and when we replace Howe it has to be an upgrade/elite but I couldn't give you any names that are that without a load of research into it.

 

I think most people would be hard pushed to provide a name that is both credible and exciting and that kind of tells a story tbh. I don't think there is anyone obvious out there at all, and so parting ways with Howe would represent an even bigger risk than in other circumstances.