Eddie Howe - Nominated for Manager of the Season

[Cf]

1 hour ago, STM said:

 

Honestly, I give up. 

 

He's only won 9 in a row. 

 

If we really want to kick on we should be looking for managers who routinely win 10 in a row. 

[Sima]

20 hours ago, Yorkie said:

Was there any Murphy equivalents in that Keegan team? Ie someone people either didn't like or begrudgingly liked or were otherwise desperate for us to improve on?

 

Peacock unquestionably.

 

Used to get pelters compared to his partners in defence.  He used to bail out Howey in particular on the regular but he still bore the brunt of the criticism. 

[mondonewc]

Something I don't think he gets anywhere near enough credit for, and funnily enough is actually used to crticise him when things aren't going so well, is his involvement in our recruitment. It seems to be the consensus that he's been massively involved in that side of things, and whilst I think it is important any one person doesn't have too much power, the results speak for themselves:

Hall - Class
Vlachodimos - PSR dodge
Osula - Too early to judge
Kelly - On a free, but again too early 
Tonali - Class
Barnes - Injuries have hampered him to build any real momentum, but he's still got 10 goals and 4 assists from 41 appearances (1,570 minutes, so a goal or assist every 112 minutes, Gordon is every 145 minutes) impossible really for anyone to say he's been a failure with any credibility 
Tino - He's a good right back playing every game, potential to be very good 
Isak - Unreal
Gordon - Very, very good
Botman - Class
Targett - Can put this one down as a negative, bad injuries as well though
Pope - Excellent value for money
Ashby - Was a 3m punt, fine to go wrong
Bruno - Class
Wood - Helped keep us up and got a chunk of the fee back, easily goes into "good signing" bracket
Willock - Injuries are a big issue with him, but think again it would be extremely hard to call him a failure, we paid 25m for him, think we at least recoup decent amount of that back if not make a profit if we sell him in the Summer 
Burn - Legend 
Trippier - Arguably best right back we've ever had

That's really unbelievable recruitment, please keep doing what you're doing Eddie! 
 

 

 

Edited January 17 by mondonewc

[Jinky]

40 minutes ago, mondonewc said:

Something I don't think he gets anywhere near enough credit for, and funnily enough is actually used to crticise him when things aren't going so well, is his involvement in our recruitment. It seems to be the consensus that he's been massively involved in that side of things, and whilst I think it is important any one person doesn't have too much power, the results speak for themselves:

Hall - Class
Vlachodimos - PSR dodge
Osula - Too early to judge
Kelly - On a free, but again too early 
Tonali - Class
Barnes - Injuries have hampered him to build any real momentum, but he's still got 10 goals and 4 assists from 41 appearances (1,570 minutes, so a goal or assist every 112 minutes, Gordon is every 145 minutes) impossible really for anyone to say he's been a failure with any credibility 
Tino - He's a good right back playing every game, potential to be very good 
Isak - Unreal
Gordon - Very, very good
Botman - Class
Targett - Can put this one down as a negative, bad injuries as well though
Pope - Excellent value for money
Ashby - Was a 3m punt, fine to go wrong
Bruno - Class
Wood - Helped keep us up and got a chunk of the fee back, easily goes into "good signing" bracket
Willock - Injuries are a big issue with him, but think again it would be extremely hard to call him a failure, we paid 25m for him, think we at least recoup decent amount of that back if not make a profit if we sell him in the Summer 
Burn - Legend 
Trippier - Arguably best right back we've ever had

That's really unbelievable recruitment, please keep doing what you're doing Eddie! 
 

 

 

 

 

Fine...though Willock was pre- Howe

[ChrisMcQuillan]

41 minutes ago, mondonewc said:

Something I don't think he gets anywhere near enough credit for, and funnily enough is actually used to crticise him when things aren't going so well, is his involvement in our recruitment. It seems to be the consensus that he's been massively involved in that side of things, and whilst I think it is important any one person doesn't have too much power, the results speak for themselves:

Hall - Class
Vlachodimos - PSR dodge
Osula - Too early to judge
Kelly - On a free, but again too early 
Tonali - Class
Barnes - Injuries have hampered him to build any real momentum, but he's still got 10 goals and 4 assists from 41 appearances (1,570 minutes, so a goal or assist every 112 minutes, Gordon is every 145 minutes) impossible really for anyone to say he's been a failure with any credibility 
Tino - He's a good right back playing every game, potential to be very good 
Isak - Unreal
Gordon - Very, very good
Botman - Class
Targett - Can put this one down as a negative, bad injuries as well though
Pope - Excellent value for money
Ashby - Was a 3m punt, fine to go wrong
Bruno - Class
Wood - Helped keep us up and got a chunk of the fee back, easily goes into "good signing" bracket
Willock - Injuries are a big issue with him, but think again it would be extremely hard to call him a failure, we paid 25m for him, think we at least recoup decent amount of that back if not make a profit if we sell him in the Summer 
Burn - Legend 
Trippier - Arguably best right back we've ever had

That's really unbelievable recruitment, please keep doing what you're doing Eddie! 
 

 

 

 

In fairness, Willock wasn't a Howe signing either. 

[Yorkie]

Yep. When you think of how many clubs have pissed away similar amounts/relative to the era, our recruitment record (of signings actually made...) has been exceptional really. Very few clubs have a hit rate as good as that. 

[Ginola14]

I think Howe is the perfect manager for us at the moment for so many reasons and hope he's here for many more years

 

it's nice to see him getting a few more plaudits but if form dips much then loads will be questioning him again, I'm sure 

 

it's just the nature of football fans 

 

he could win us the league this year and there would still be people calling for his head next season if we were having a Spurs/MU type year near the relegation zone 

 

sure if Ranieri can win the league with Leicester of all teams and then be sacked the following year, I don't think anyone is safe for long 

 

 

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

25 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

Yep. When you think of how many clubs have pissed away similar amounts/relative to the era, our recruitment record (of signings actually made...) has been exceptional really. Very few clubs have a hit rate as good as that. 

Think a lot of credit has to go to the coaching staff in that regard. Unless we just feel that the signings were all amazing and going to make it any club on their own. 

[Zero]

7 minutes ago, Cf said:

 

He's only won 9 in a row. 

 

If we really want to kick on we should be looking for managers who routinely win 10 in a row. 

I expect him to break the consecutive win record as well. That doesn’t mean all his problems last season were gone. We will know next season.

[Kanj]

Every footballer is allowed to have a dip in form IMHO. I'm going to not rate the summer's signings. I'd class Targett and Ashby as the only ones are "misses" under Howe. Targett because he's been unable to play for multiple seasons due to injury, despite being KEY in our survival season whilst on loan and Ashby because he hasn't featured at all for us in his time outside of preseason. Karius is a "neither" as he basically has been free and deputized (argument he was poor in the final?). Minteh for the fee. Some would argue Barnes was not a hit if they think we should have used those funds for RW, but I'd argue he's a great squad player and has contributed when called upon with crucial goals. 

 

Trippier - Hit 

Wood - Hit 

Bruno - Hit 

Targett - Miss

Burn - Hit 

Botman - Hit

Pope - Hit

Isak - Hit

Loris - Neither

Gordon - Hit

Ashby - Miss

Minteh - Hit (PSR safety)

Tonali - Hit

Barnes - Hit

Tino - Hit

Hall - Hit

Kelly - TBD

Ruddy - TBD

Vlach - TBD

Osula - TBD

 

Fucking CLASS record in the transfer market. 

 

 

 

[OCOCOL]

21 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

Guarantee some will deny it, but Gillespie was pretty underappeciated until he was injured. 

A lot of people didn't like 'Back pass Batty' despite him being absolutely fucking class as well. 

 

Batty was a very good player, but imho he disrupted the flow or the team and tactics more than Asprilla by taking Clarky out of the side - this I think contributed more than Tino (who actually won us games we wouldn't have - Boro away) to us "blowing" the title, albeit combined with Man U's astounding post xmas form and Schmeichel's performance v us.

[mondonewc]

1 hour ago, ChrisMcQuillan said:

In fairness, Willock wasn't a Howe signing either. 

Good point  

[Holmesy]

I was highly critical of him and I genuinely didn't see him turning our poor form around without new signings, but i'm happy to eat humble pie.

They key complaint was that he needed to change something and he has - Tonali has been an absolute revelation. Having a genuine #6 filling that gaping midfield hole that made us so easy to play through has been transformational. As has Murphy's form. 

 

Full credit to him. I'm back in the Eddie in camp

[mondonewc]

34 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said:

Think a lot of credit has to go to the coaching staff in that regard. Unless we just feel that the signings were all amazing and going to make it any club on their own. 

For sure that's true, Eddie generally does get a lot of credit for the coaching side of things though, pretty much everyone is in agreement he's a very good coach. I just don't think I've seen much mentioned about his skills on the recruitment side, which like I say he seems to be heavily part of, and we're absolutely crushing it in the department. 

[Kanj]

Reviewing signings should be circular, but it seems like every player he signed has contributed in some shape or form, was crucial / critical at one time because Eddie and the staff picked (1) good professionals and (2) coached them well and (3) the system and tactics used helped further enhance abilities or limit the player’s weaknesses from being exposed. 
 

Ie: Targett for the loan spell and Wood for the few crucial goals in the survival season. 

[Joelinton7]

Doesn’t sound like much is gonna’ change in the summer re incomings listening to what he said. But then after that he said it should be very different. 

[LiquidAK]

5 hours ago, NEEJ said:

I think he means flag it, son. 

I'm sure @Heron and the others in Wor Flags who do such stellar work don't need input from the likes of me, but for the love of god please don't start putting this AI-generated noncery on any flags

[timeEd32]

2 hours ago, Cf said:

 

He's only won 9 in a row. 

 

If we really want to kick on we should be looking for managers who routinely win 10 in a row. 

But 10 is a mathematical impossibility so

 

[NEEJ]

14 minutes ago, LiquidAK said:

I'm sure @Heron and the others in Wor Flags who do such stellar work don't need input from the likes of me, but for the love of god please don't start putting this AI-generated noncery on any flags

Oh, I'm in full agreement. They're shocking. 

[Big River]

3 minutes ago, NEEJ said:

Oh, I'm in full agreement. They're shocking. 

 

[duo]

1 hour ago, Kanj said:

Every footballer is allowed to have a dip in form IMHO. I'm going to not rate the summer's signings. I'd class Targett and Ashby as the only ones are "misses" under Howe. Targett because he's been unable to play for multiple seasons due to injury, despite being KEY in our survival season whilst on loan and Ashby because he hasn't featured at all for us in his time outside of preseason. Karius is a "neither" as he basically has been free and deputized (argument he was poor in the final?). Minteh for the fee. Some would argue Barnes was not a hit if they think we should have used those funds for RW, but I'd argue he's a great squad player and has contributed when called upon with crucial goals. 

 

Trippier - Hit 

Wood - Hit 

Bruno - Hit 

Targett - Miss

Burn - Hit 

Botman - Hit

Pope - Hit

Isak - Hit

Loris - Neither

Gordon - Hit

Ashby - Miss

Minteh - Hit (PSR safety)

Tonali - Hit

Barnes - Hit

Tino - Hit

Hall - Hit

Kelly - TBD

Ruddy - TBD

Vlach - TBD

Osula - TBD

 

Fucking CLASS record in the transfer market. 

 

 

 

Targett tbf was class when he first joined and helped keep us up so I would class that as a hit. I still think he's a decent player just not on par with Hall

[Superior Acuña]

1 hour ago, Kanj said:

Every footballer is allowed to have a dip in form IMHO. I'm going to not rate the summer's signings. I'd class Targett and Ashby as the only ones are "misses" under Howe. Targett because he's been unable to play for multiple seasons due to injury, despite being KEY in our survival season whilst on loan and Ashby because he hasn't featured at all for us in his time outside of preseason. Karius is a "neither" as he basically has been free and deputized (argument he was poor in the final?). Minteh for the fee. Some would argue Barnes was not a hit if they think we should have used those funds for RW, but I'd argue he's a great squad player and has contributed when called upon with crucial goals. 

 

Trippier - Hit 

Wood - Hit 

Bruno - Hit 

Targett - Miss

Burn - Hit 

Botman - Hit

Pope - Hit

Isak - Hit

Loris - Neither

Gordon - Hit

Ashby - Miss

Minteh - Hit (PSR safety)

Tonali - Hit

Barnes - Hit

Tino - Hit

Hall - Hit

Kelly - TBD

Ruddy - TBD

Vlach - TBD

Osula - TBD

 

Fucking CLASS record in the transfer market. 

 

 

 

 

I'd probably downgrade Wood to a neither (team did well with him in it, recouped fee, but I'm sure we'd have wanted more goals for what we paid), and put Ashby as a TBD. Can't see Ashby being an NUFC player but maybe still potentially will be alright as a sell-on.

[Yorkie]

4 minutes ago, Big River said:

 

 

 who's in the middle?

[Big River]

Just now, Yorkie said:

 who's in the middle?

 

Stormzy, obviously

[Checko]

Can definitely see Howe hanging out in a hot tub with Stormzy, and wouldn't surprise me in the least if Pardew turned up and decided to join them uninvited.