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1 hour ago, Yorkie said:

The performances against West Ham, Palace and Brentford justifiably had people questioning the direction under him. Prior to then, he had more than enough credit in the bank to avoid severe criticism until it looked like he'd lost the squad; and tbh, I thought there was signs of that in that West Ham second half.

 

But since that poxy run he's found solutions to problems and collectively (between him and the team) they've absolutely gorged on the opportunities presented by a kinder fixture list and gained some incredible momentum. He's put his faith in certain players and made a mockery of any notion that the team were no longer responding to his leadership. 

 

Right now things are as positive as they've been during his whole time here but the pressure, ironically, is back on with these theoretically favourable games ahead. If we drop points against, say, Wolves and Bournemouth (which could happen and wouldn't be criminal), it's beyond crucial that the fans and the usual suspects in the press room don't lose their collective shit. 

 

Because he's got this. 

 

 

 

Even that West Ham game, I thought he got a lot of unfair stick. We played very well in the first half, and were unlucky to be losing at half time. Then second half, we come out attacking the game but they get a second goal and after that Howe pannicks a bit with some poor subs and we lose control of the game. Overall though, we're nowhere as bad as I think most of remembers that game. 

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41 minutes ago, madras said:

And Bruno does it and Murphy does a bit of it, Tino does some of the hard running. Longstaffs role as it was has gone.

 

Jeez.....all I'm saying is that Tonali was never an RCM upgrade like some seemed to think. He was always destined for the middle, either as a lone 6 or as double pivot, either way he wasn't a Longstaff replacement as he never played those roles.

I’m not disagreeing with anything you said, all I’m saying is I think I interpreted TCDs post differently to the way you did. 
 

It was clear that Tonali best position was 6, I actually had doubts about Bruno being played further up rather than Tonali at 6. But he’s so good he alleviates Bruno’s lack of athleticism/physicality.

 

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Just now, PauloGeordio said:

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That's awesome. Just sent it to my old mate who I convinced to be a Newcastle fan in the 90's. Back then he worked at the airport and got a free flight. He flew to England (London), rented a car, drove to Newcastle, watched the game in SJP. Drove straight back to London and flew home to Minnesota. Also bought me some merch at the shop. This lad was always pretty crazy. He still watches the team.

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1 minute ago, McDog said:

 

 

That's awesome. Just sent it to my old mate who I convinced to be a Newcastle fan in the 90's. Back then he worked at the airport and got a free flight. He flew to England (London), rented a car, drove to Newcastle, watched the game in SJP. Drove straight back to London and flew home to Minnesota. Also bought me some merch at the shop. This lad was always pretty crazy. He still watches the team.

 [emoji38] Brilliant stuff

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We're a couple of players away from being serious challengers now. 

 

New RW still feels like the main missing ingredient despite Murphy playing so well recently. 

 

A new keeper. Pope feels like he's on the decline and more prone to injuries, plus we have seen what a difference even a basic level of passing ability can help since Dubs stepped in. 

 

I think a longterm replacement for Big Joe would take us up a level also. 

 

Plus we need the long-term Schar replacement and a backup striker to Isak. 

 

Not sure where we are gonna find such diamonds in the rough but we can dream of hopefully one day getting the missing pieces. 

 

Isak and Tonali are bonafide elite superstars and as long as can keep them and build around them we are set. Bruno I'd argue is one step down, but purely down to his less gifted athleticism. He's just as talented in other areas.

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Just now, PauloGeordio said:

 [emoji38] Brilliant stuff

 

 

It's true! I think it was a Europa Conference League game. This guy was different than most of us but a good lad for sure.

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One calendar month ago we were picking the bones out of that Brentford defeat, and it felt like we were sliding towards midtable.

 

If you’d have told me then that we’d be unbeaten come early January I’d have laughed in your face. That we’d have won every single match I’d have had you sectioned.
 

It’s a phenomenal run and all credit to Howe for it. It wasn’t working and he reacted. I had genuine reservations about his ability to get Tonali and Bruno working together in his system, but he’s done it. His management of the squad - particularly when a lot of coaches would’ve rushed Botman back - and his in-game management has been virtually faultless.


I absolutely loved his demeanour at full time last night too. No time to get carried away. There’s a long way to go.

 

Well in Eddie.

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I don't think he's ever going to be the England manager.

 

Howe's tactical style is one of meticulous, drilled scenarios combined with elite-level fitness to execute them.

 

He just wouldn't have the necessary time to implement what works for him in a setup when he barely sees the players. 

 

And long may he continue.

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7 hours ago, alexf said:

We're a couple of players away from being serious challengers now. 

 

New RW still feels like the main missing ingredient despite Murphy playing so well recently. 

 

A new keeper. Pope feels like he's on the decline and more prone to injuries, plus we have seen what a difference even a basic level of passing ability can help since Dubs stepped in. 

 

I think a longterm replacement for Big Joe would take us up a level also. 

 

Plus we need the long-term Schar replacement and a backup striker to Isak. 

 

Not sure where we are gonna find such diamonds in the rough but we can dream of hopefully one day getting the missing pieces. 

 

Isak and Tonali are bonafide elite superstars and as long as can keep them and build around them we are set. Bruno I'd argue is one step down, but purely down to his less gifted athleticism. He's just as talented in other areas.

 

You could tell from last nights game that there is a need to improve the squad - looking at how Arsenal pressed - it was a backs to the wall situ for 20 mins - we need to be able to do the same - it's not like the players we have are bad, no, they are good, it's just the likes of Arsenal, City, Chelsea have the £££ ability to buy in lot's of players and get good in depth squads, in effect having a 2nd 11 - which, at present, is something we don't have.

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1 hour ago, HawK said:

I don't think he's ever going to be the England manager.

 

Howe's tactical style is one of meticulous, drilled scenarios combined with elite-level fitness to execute them.

 

He just wouldn't have the necessary time to implement what works for him in a setup when he barely sees the players. 

 

And long may he continue.


Maybe he will when he’s near retirement and he’s already won the title with Newcastle. But agree generally, it’s not a job for a manager like Howe. 

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The West Ham game we just didn't take our chances. One of those those games. I was disappointed and a little worried with Palace and Brentford away performances but we've responded incredibly strongly since then.

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4 minutes ago, samptime29 said:

The West Ham game we just didn't take our chances. One of those those games. I was disappointed and a little worried with Palace and Brentford away performances but we've responded incredibly strongly since then.

 

That whole period felt like a lot of "what ifs" with the amount of chances we just weren't putting away.

 

To a degree we're now seeing the what if outcome.

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He was always going to turn it around as that's been the way of it, it's when the next international break kicks in or when we have a run of games likes the ones we do coming up in the PL.

 

4 winnable games, more so than what we've just done. That's when we have tended to slip up.

 

If we can keep that consistency through all that then maybe we have turned a corner.

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5 minutes ago, Cf said:

 

That whole period felt like a lot of "what ifs" with the amount of chances we just weren't putting away.

 

To a degree we're now seeing the what if outcome.

 

I agree, we performed relatively well v Brighton, Everton and Chelsea, but squandered too many opportunities.

 

The performances v West Ham, Palace and Brentford were alarming though. The turn around since then has been nothing short of remarkable. Full credit to Howe and the coaching staff.

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25 minutes ago, South-Cheshire-Toon said:

 

You could tell from last nights game that there is a need to improve the squad - looking at how Arsenal pressed - it was a backs to the wall situ for 20 mins - we need to be able to do the same - it's not like the players we have are bad, no, they are good, it's just the likes of Arsenal, City, Chelsea have the £££ ability to buy in lot's of players and get good in depth squads, in effect having a 2nd 11 - which, at present, is something we don't have.

Exactly this.  We need more class players  even to sit on the bench.  Some on here are suggesting we sell Barnes because he's too expensive to sit on the bench.  Total nonsense from them.  We need MORE of the likes of his standard.

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1 minute ago, HaydnNUFC said:

5-5-0 late on in the second half. That time studying Simeone and our streak of being able to play Satanic football coming back to the fore. Get the fuck in.

 

It's a wonderful riposte to the current vogue of managers playing certain ways and refusing to make any change even mid game as if there's valour in dropping points, we score a lot of goals, good to the eye but not going to make anything easy for the other team. 

 

He has made me look a fool for pondering if he'd taken us as far as he could, appoint him for life

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Last night could be monumental result for the club, especially off the back of the MU and Spurs also on the road 

 

even if we don't win the competition this time, I think the experience of playing in these type of big games will be crucial going forward 

 

a final against MU, all the CL games last season, a 2 leg semi final against Arsenal and potentially another final against Liverpool - should mean this team is more mentally equipped to deal with the next final or CL campaign etc.

 

I think we struggled with the occasion in the 2023 final and perhaps a bit in the CL too 

 

as I said, even if we go on to lose the final, it's all part of the journey and growing experience

 

there will no doubt be plenty of bumps along the road but sure Klopp lost quite a few finals before success finally came to him at Liverpool, Ancelotti similar in Italy and am sure there are plenty of other examples 

 

so glad the club have stuck by Howe and I'm sure success will come if they continue to do so, with a bit of luck I think it's just a matter of time 

 

 

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