gbandit Posted Saturday at 16:05 Share Posted Saturday at 16:05 1 minute ago, Stifler said: Everyone in the Man City thread is saying the exact same things. We choke when it comes to the big games that we need to win. Match day threads are known for their balanced takes, especially when we concede three goals in a half. Saying you hope you’re proved wrong in March is a mad argument. So, if we win the league cup you’re wrong and if we lose, you’re right? The world’s not some binary set of rules where everything’s neatly one thing or another Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted Saturday at 16:07 Share Posted Saturday at 16:07 Takes bravery in the press to execute against City. We’re losing one on ones and not showing any intensity. Not sure that’s Howe’s Fault. We look a team that’s distracted/ phoning it in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted Saturday at 16:20 Share Posted Saturday at 16:20 22 minutes ago, Stifler said: Said it for quite a while to be fair, it’s just our fanbase won’t allow you to criticise on the back of a good result. How could I have came on after knocking Arsenal out of the cup and said that? Let’s face it, Top 4 finish aside, we have chicken every big game we have faced against the top 6 teams. Lost the cup final to an average Man Utd team who fluked their way into the top 4. Beat them in games afterwards, but lost to a poor Man Utd team when a result for us would have got us into Europe and it was between us and them for the last place. Got beat off a poor performing Chelsea side in the league cup quarter final last season. We beat that Chelsea team for 90 minutes with players running on fumes. An individual error cost us. We also just beat Arsenal handily in a two legged semifinal. That spoils your narrative a bit though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted Saturday at 16:41 Share Posted Saturday at 16:41 38 minutes ago, Stifler said: Everyone in the Man City thread is saying the exact same things. We choke when it comes to the big games that we need to win. What about the big games against Arsenal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted Saturday at 16:44 Share Posted Saturday at 16:44 That was a solid Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted Saturday at 16:44 Share Posted Saturday at 16:44 It's rubbish that we don't do it in big games. There's plenty evidence to suggest we do turn up in big games, the difference is more games are big games these days that's all. Every game is a big game pretty much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted Saturday at 16:47 Share Posted Saturday at 16:47 His worst effort for a while. Really needs to sharpen up in the league, totally out-coached by Iraola, Silva and Guardiola. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Saturday at 16:47 Share Posted Saturday at 16:47 Just now, Heron said: It's rubbish that we don't do it in big games. There's plenty evidence to suggest we do turn up in big games, the difference is more games are big games these days that's all. Every game is a big game pretty much. Until recently. I’m sure most on here were complaining that we only turn up/our system only consistently works against better sides. Some truth in that, IMO. Most were saying around the time of the Liverpool 3-3. It is more the Brentford, Brighton, West Ham, Bournemouth sort of games where we don’t play well and we’ll blow it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted Saturday at 16:48 Share Posted Saturday at 16:48 Just now, Theregulars said: His worst effort for a while. Really needs to sharpen up in the league, totally out-coached by Iraola, Silva and Guardiola. Has out-coahed Arteta though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted Saturday at 16:50 Share Posted Saturday at 16:50 If anything, our problem more often than not is that we only do it in big games. However, today just felt like we didn't want it or believe we could get anything from the very first minute. The latter of which is bizarre considering how poor this City team have been at times this season. It's difficult to really understand what our plan was today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted Saturday at 16:51 Share Posted Saturday at 16:51 Not his style, but I wouldn’t mind him calling out the effort today and expecting a better performance than getting humbled without a fight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted Saturday at 16:53 Share Posted Saturday at 16:53 1 minute ago, The Bonk said: Not his style, but I wouldn’t mind him calling out the effort today and expecting a better performance than getting humbled without a fight. Give it a rest and stick to ice hockey lad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Saturday at 16:53 Share Posted Saturday at 16:53 (edited) Can't work us out this season. We swing wildly between streaks of looking like a very good football team and streaks of looking absolutely shite. Edited Saturday at 17:04 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted Saturday at 16:53 Share Posted Saturday at 16:53 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Until recently. I’m sure most on here were complaining that we only turn up/our system only consistently works against better sides. Some truth in that, IMO. Most were saying around the time of the Liverpool 3-3. It is more the Brentford, Brighton, West Ham, Bournemouth sort of games where we don’t play well and we’ll blow it. How many times have we gone into a week saying "we need 6 or 7 from the next 3" etc. Though and done it. How many time shave we gone into cup games and won. Two cup finals in 3 years and quarter finals etc. Won our only local derby. Have beaten fairly big sides on a few occasions. Every game is big because we aspire to be a CL side and CL sides need to win almost every game. That is what has changed and that is what's testament to Howe and the club. You cannot win all these 'big' games with a squad like ours. Edited Saturday at 16:54 by Heron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted Saturday at 16:54 Share Posted Saturday at 16:54 Have to put this on Eddies toes today like. Totally unprepared the team for this game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted Saturday at 16:55 Share Posted Saturday at 16:55 (edited) “We looked fatigued today, not our usual selves, very difficult to explain right now , we’ll have to go back and analyse it” Edited Saturday at 16:56 by Mikky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellis80 Posted Saturday at 16:56 Share Posted Saturday at 16:56 Apart from Arsenal away I can’t remember any big away game we’ve played well in (PSG was a gutsy effort but they had a million chances before the penalty). And it’s worrying how we don’t seem to have learnt anything from them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted Saturday at 16:56 Share Posted Saturday at 16:56 Just now, Bellis80 said: Apart from Arsenal away I can’t remember any big away game we’ve played well in (PSG was a gutsy effort but they had a million chances before the penalty). And it’s worrying how we don’t seem to have learnt anything from them. Notts Forest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted Saturday at 16:57 Share Posted Saturday at 16:57 1 minute ago, Bellis80 said: Apart from Arsenal away I can’t remember any big away game we’ve played well in (PSG was a gutsy effort but they had a million chances before the penalty). And it’s worrying how we don’t seem to have learnt anything from them. In the last few months alone: Arsenal 0-2 Newcastle Tottenham 1-2 Newcastle Man United 0-2 Newcastle Nottingham Forest 1-3 Newcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted Saturday at 16:57 Share Posted Saturday at 16:57 Very hard to know to what extent the game plan was the issue because the players just didn't turn up. Maybe he should have mitigated for that happening, I don't know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Saturday at 16:58 Share Posted Saturday at 16:58 Just now, Heron said: How many times have we gone into a week saying "we need 6 or 7 from the next 3" etc. Though and done it. How many time shave we gone into cup games and won. Two cup finals in 3 years and quarter finals etc. Won our only local derby. Have beaten fairly big sides on a few occasions. Every game is big because we aspire to be a CL side and CL sides need to win almost every game. That is what has changed and that is what's testament to Howe and the club. You cannot win all these 'big' games with a squad like ours. Not sure what point you’re making here or who it is aimed at. I’m not saying I think we bottle big games. More that if anything, Stifler’s point is wide of the mark as it is more like the other way round. We perform when it matters in a lot of crunch games and the perhaps there is the dreaded ‘after the Lord Mayor’s show performance. Or of course, just general variance. I do think this season has been very odd all round. Mad runs of good form, some games where we were unlucky to lose, some games where we deserved fuck all and won. We still feel a bit inconsistent somehow and not sure which team is turning up week to week. I’m sure most fans say the same about their team and the way the league is from 3rd to 9th-10th. A lot of teams are struggling for form, it would seem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted Saturday at 16:59 Share Posted Saturday at 16:59 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: Very hard to know to what extent the game plan was the issue because the players just didn't turn up. Maybe he should have mitigated for that happening, I don't know. We were crap and he didn’t get the players up for it basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellis80 Posted Saturday at 17:00 Share Posted Saturday at 17:00 1 minute ago, 54 said: In the last few months alone: Arsenal 0-2 Newcastle Tottenham 1-2 Newcastle Man United 0-2 Newcastle Nottingham Forest 1-3 Newcastle I didn’t think anyone saw those as big games but yes they played well in those. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J7 Posted Saturday at 17:00 Share Posted Saturday at 17:00 10 minutes ago, Heron said: It's rubbish that we don't do it in big games. There's plenty evidence to suggest we do turn up in big games, the difference is more games are big games these days that's all. Every game is a big game pretty much. Don’t agree with that. There’s big games like today, then there’s big games like Cup Finals and end of season games to achieve something. We’ve been pretty poor in a lot of the big games for me. Milan (h), Man Utd at Wembley, Man Utd (a) last season, draw with Leicester in a frightened performance to qualify for the CL which thankfully was just enough. You can point at a few outliers like Arsenal a couple weeks back, but I still think there’s a concern about the mentality in the big games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted Saturday at 17:00 Share Posted Saturday at 17:00 12 minutes ago, Joe1984 said: Has out-coahed Arteta though. Sure. That wasn’t good enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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