Guest Yerdas El Savon Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Apparently we were working on 2 deals yesterday, but now Douglas is saying he thinks it's unlikely we'll get a CM or a striker in, so looks like Krafth will be last one in. Another terrible window where we haven't even replaced the outgoings, let alone strengthen a weak squad. Mint. Perez - ASM Rondon - Joelinton Diame - Shortstaff Joselu - Gayle Am I forgetting someone? + A new pair of fullbacks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFC Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Any rumors of an outgoing RB? I figured Yedlin but I saw him in that media day video but not sure I spotted Manquillo and someone mentioned a loan rumor out for Manquillo but based off recency bias...that doesnt make much sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Manquillo was there training too, you can see him walking out with the others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFC Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Apparently we were working on 2 deals yesterday, but now Douglas is saying he thinks it's unlikely we'll get a CM or a striker in, so looks like Krafth will be last one in. Another terrible window where we haven't even replaced the outgoings, let alone strengthen a weak squad. Mint. Yeah Im finding it hard to get excited with signing a bunch of players that have never played in the Premier League. Meaning its likely a half season adjustment will be needed to even see if they can hack it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFC Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Manquillo was there training too, you can see him walking out with the others. Thanks. I must have missed him. I'll be honest I work nights here in the states and literally had just woken up watching the vid. Gotta figure there will be some interest for Yedlin atleast in the Championship and I know a couple american reporters said teams in Germany, Spain, and France were looking in on him but have no idea to the validity cause I usually dont trust rumors to begin with until they multiply and atleast give the name of a team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 WhoScored can be great but also incredibly shite, and wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Manquillo was there training too, you can see him walking out with the others. Thanks. I must have missed him. I'll be honest I work nights here in the states and literally had just woken up watching the vid. Gotta figure there will be some interest for Yedlin atleast in the Championship and I know a couple american reporters said teams in Germany, Spain, and France were looking in on him but have no idea to the validity cause I usually dont trust rumors to begin with until they multiply and atleast give the name of a team Yep, you would think one of them would have to go. Manquillo would probably be the best bet to keep as he can cover both sides where Yedlin is right side only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John P Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Apparently we were working on 2 deals yesterday, but now Douglas is saying he thinks it's unlikely we'll get a CM or a striker in, so looks like Krafth will be last one in. Another terrible window where we haven't even replaced the outgoings, let alone strengthen a weak squad. Mint. Perez - ASM Rondon - Joelinton Diame - Shortstaff Joselu - Gayle Am I forgetting someone? + A new pair of fullbacks I wouldn't say buying 2 young players who have never scored more than 7/8 league goals in the German and French leagues is replacing our 2 top scorers from last season. (ASM also seems to play a different position to Perez). Likewise Diame, who featured a lot in the last 2 seasons, isn't replaced by an academy graduate who has never played a minute of competitive first team football. Gayle is clearly out of favour, hasn't featured at all in preseason, and has been rumoured to be leaving all summer. Kenedy hasn't been replaced either. We've signed 2 fullbacks who arguably are no better than the ones we currently have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Apparently we were working on 2 deals yesterday, but now Douglas is saying he thinks it's unlikely we'll get a CM or a striker in, so looks like Krafth will be last one in. Another terrible window where we haven't even replaced the outgoings, let alone strengthen a weak squad. Mint. Perez - ASM Rondon - Joelinton Diame - Shortstaff Joselu - Gayle Am I forgetting someone? + A new pair of fullbacks I wouldn't say buying 2 young players who have never scored more than 7/8 league goals in the German and French leagues is replacing our 2 top scorers from last season. (ASM also seems to play a different position to Perez). Likewise Diame, who featured a lot in the last 2 seasons, isn't replaced by an academy graduate who has never played a minute of competitive first team football. Gayle is clearly out of favour, hasn't featured at all in preseason, and has been rumoured to be leaving all summer. Kenedy hasn't been replaced either. We've signed 2 fullbacks who arguably are no better than the ones we currently have. It is replacing them though isn't it? The question is whether they've replaced them with sufficient quality, and that's obviously to be determined. It might prove to be absolutely disastrous, or it might not. And Gayle's been injured all preseason (so we're told at least). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I think we're going to miss Rondon more than any other player, our league form with him in was brilliant. Whether Joelinton will fill that void is a wait and see, but i just don't see him with the lack of experience especially in England, being as streetwise and difficult as Rondon was to play against. Not so much missing the goals, it's the hold up play and being that focal point up top that we'll need desperately this season. He could be superb to be fair to him, time will tell i guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John P Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Apparently we were working on 2 deals yesterday, but now Douglas is saying he thinks it's unlikely we'll get a CM or a striker in, so looks like Krafth will be last one in. Another terrible window where we haven't even replaced the outgoings, let alone strengthen a weak squad. Mint. Perez - ASM Rondon - Joelinton Diame - Shortstaff Joselu - Gayle Am I forgetting someone? + A new pair of fullbacks I wouldn't say buying 2 young players who have never scored more than 7/8 league goals in the German and French leagues is replacing our 2 top scorers from last season. (ASM also seems to play a different position to Perez). Likewise Diame, who featured a lot in the last 2 seasons, isn't replaced by an academy graduate who has never played a minute of competitive first team football. Gayle is clearly out of favour, hasn't featured at all in preseason, and has been rumoured to be leaving all summer. Kenedy hasn't been replaced either. We've signed 2 fullbacks who arguably are no better than the ones we currently have. It is replacing them though isn't it? The question is whether they've replaced them with sufficient quality, and that's obviously to be determined. It might prove to be absolutely disastrous, or it might not. And Gayle's been injured all preseason (so we're told at least). Ok I'll rephrase - we haven't adequately replaced the players we've lost. We're taking a massive risk on replacing proven performers with inexperienced youngsters and putting massive pressure on them to perform straight away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Even if ASM and Joelinton are as good as Perez and Rondon - which seems unlikely - we still haven't strengthened the squad in any material respect. You could argue that Willems gives us a more natural left wing back, but Krafth doesn't seem any better than Yedlin or Manquillo. Fucking ridiculous. We should be looking to improve every position possible, whether it's getting a better central midfielder than Shelvey or Ki or getting a better back up striker than Gayle or Muto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Apparently we were working on 2 deals yesterday, but now Douglas is saying he thinks it's unlikely we'll get a CM or a striker in, so looks like Krafth will be last one in. Another terrible window where we haven't even replaced the outgoings, let alone strengthen a weak squad. Mint. Perez - ASM Rondon - Joelinton Diame - Shortstaff Joselu - Gayle Am I forgetting someone? + A new pair of fullbacks I wouldn't say buying 2 young players who have never scored more than 7/8 league goals in the German and French leagues is replacing our 2 top scorers from last season. (ASM also seems to play a different position to Perez). Likewise Diame, who featured a lot in the last 2 seasons, isn't replaced by an academy graduate who has never played a minute of competitive first team football. Gayle is clearly out of favour, hasn't featured at all in preseason, and has been rumoured to be leaving all summer. Kenedy hasn't been replaced either. We've signed 2 fullbacks who arguably are no better than the ones we currently have. It is replacing them though isn't it? The question is whether they've replaced them with sufficient quality, and that's obviously to be determined. It might prove to be absolutely disastrous, or it might not. And Gayle's been injured all preseason (so we're told at least). Ok I'll rephrase - we haven't adequately replaced the players we've lost. We're taking a massive risk on replacing proven performers with inexperienced youngsters and putting massive pressure on them to perform straight away. Yes, that's probably a fairer assessment. I don't think anyone could say for certain either way that Joelinton will be better/worse that Rondon, and likewise ASM and Perez. Clearly it's a very risky policy though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 We could have Man City’s XI and be weaker all because of who the fuckwits in charge got in to replace Rafa. We are massively down on last season regardless of who replaces who as Rafa alone was what keeps NUFC up and up well. We are now back to Pardew FC and there is a good chance Bruce will be McClaren 2.0 and a 3rd relegation is coming. If not this season another under Bruce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFC Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 Even if ASM and Joelinton are as good as Perez and Rondon - which seems unlikely - we still haven't strengthened the squad in any material respect. You could argue that Willems gives us a more natural left wing back, but Krafth doesn't seem any better than Yedlin or Manquillo. Fucking ridiculous. We should be looking to improve every position possible, whether it's getting a better central midfielder than Shelvey or Ki or getting a better back up striker than Gayle or Muto. Thats where Im at and its really worrisome that all these new guys..have zero experience in the league. That is a huge dice roll IMO. Especially considering Joelinton was never asked to the guy before and ASM is honestly an Adama Traore in my estimation till proven otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I have a bad feeling that on deadline day, Bruce will be given at least one free transfer of his choice and it'd probably be someone like Andy Carroll. Elmohamady is still with Villa right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I have a bad feeling that on deadline day, Bruce will be given at least one free transfer of his choice and it'd probably be someone like Andy Carroll. Elmohamady is still with Villa right? The one thing we know about Carroll is that he can score goals in the PL. The same can't be said for any of our others forwards. If he could stay fit he'd be a big asset so i'd say he's worth a gamble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I have a bad feeling that on deadline day, Bruce will be given at least one free transfer of his choice and it'd probably be someone like Andy Carroll. Elmohamady is still with Villa right? I'd take Andy Carroll on a free as you know he will score goals Joelinton I see as Mitrovic 2.0 and ASM from everything I've seen is just a dog chasing a balloon. You see him on YT and none of the videos show any end product or goals. Who the fuck is interested in fancy flicks and dribbling it's about end product and ability to score Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I don't want Carroll for reasons I have already given. I think he's useless unless you are playing hoofball, and a liability with injuries. Much happier to take a chance on Joelinton rather than give Bruce the long ball option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I don't want Carroll for reasons I have already given. I think he's useless unless you are playing hoofball, and a liability with injuries. Much happier to take a chance on Joelinton rather than give Bruce the long ball option. Hed be good to have on the bench as a plan B I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I don't want Carroll for reasons I have already given. I think he's useless unless you are playing hoofball, and a liability with injuries. Much happier to take a chance on Joelinton rather than give Bruce the long ball option. Hed be good to have on the bench as a plan B I think Agreed. And you can be 100% certain we're going to need a plan B and probably a plan C too with Bruce at the helm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I don't want Carroll for reasons I have already given. I think he's useless unless you are playing hoofball, and a liability with injuries. Much happier to take a chance on Joelinton rather than give Bruce the long ball option. Correct but for free and pay as you play he’s an option for any lower PL team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 We're desperately attempting to stand still whilst other teams are taking steps forward. The Ashley way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I don't want Carroll for reasons I have already given. I think he's useless unless you are playing hoofball, and a liability with injuries. Much happier to take a chance on Joelinton rather than give Bruce the long ball option. Hed be good to have on the bench as a plan B I think Agreed. And you can be 100% certain we're going to need a plan B and probably a plan C too with Bruce at the helm. With Bruce as the manager I predict he'd become Plan A sooner rather than later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 I imagine Krafth will be the last one in. Would have liked another striker and centre mid with Gayle and Colback out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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