Kieran Trippier: has a chance to play against Everton (Howe)

[lovejoy]

He’s in a bad way Trippier. Still wants/needs to be away.

 

 

[Fak]

1 minute ago, Erikse said:

 

Allright. I was born in the 90s myself, so I don't know how things used to be. But today that is highly unusual for players on the top level. That's exactly why players last longer today.

 

You're right, if it was every weekend he was on the lash getting blotto then I'd be aggrevated. But if he's done it as a one-off whilst in the middle of a divorce and not being able to play football then I don't see how anyone can hold it against him.

[Menace]

26 minutes ago, Fak said:

 

Nothing wrong with hanging onto good footballers.

 

The extra baggage and him slowly declining makes it not worth it personally.

[Tross]

2 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

Allright. I was born in the 90s myself, so I don't know much about how it was back then. But today that is highly unusual for players on the top level. That's exactly why players last longer today.

 

 

 

 

Football was better back then too. 

[Fak]

1 minute ago, Menace said:

 

The extra baggage and him slowly declining makes it not worth it personally.

 

He's still got plenty to offer on the pitch.

 

If he's still here in 3-4 years time doing  Ciaran Clark, Matt Ritchie, Isaac Hayden then aye we've hung onto him for too long.

[Erikse]

15 minutes ago, Fak said:

 

You're right, if it was every weekend he was on the lash getting blotto then I'd be aggrevated. But if he's done it as a one-off whilst in the middle of a divorce and not being able to play football then I don't see how anyone can hold it against him.

 

I think most if not all recognized the circumstances around it. And I agree that we shouldn't chase him out of town when he is in that situation. I just don't see the problem with calling the act itself unprofessional.

 

 

Edited November 7, 2024 by Erikse

[JEToon]

10 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

I think most if not all recognized the circumstances around it. And I agree that we shouldn't chase him out of town when he is in that situation. I just don't see the problem with calling the act itself unprofessional.

 

 

 

 

I don't know the circumstances around it, you don't you are saying it is unprofessional for a player to have a night out, what if they were given permission to do it? You also don't actually have evidence of what he actually done other than sit outside a bar 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 7, 2024 by JEToon

[GavMcEl]

Since the minute we qualified for the CL in 2023 he went off the boil a bit didn't he, going on benders etc... and wasn't that around the time that his suppose cheating happened ? And its obviously affected him, as he went from being one of the best full backs in Europe (imo) to putting in some very questionable  performances, I can think of 2 games just off the top of my head last season where he cost us matches, I'm sure there's a lot more examples.... end of the day his signing for me was the most important in the 25 years or so that I've been Following the club... the fact that he was willing  to leave one of the top sides in Europe to join us in the position we where in was the 1st indication that we were serious.... and his performances from Jan 22 to May 23 were outstanding.... I know a lot if not all of this was brought on himself, but at the end of the day, the man's marriage is Breaking down and he's loosing his family... doesn't matter if he's a minted footballer or not, he's still a human being, the club should show support and solidarity 100%

[Erikse]

1 minute ago, JEToon said:

 

I don't know the circumstances around it, you don't you are saying it is unprofessional for a player to have a night out, what if they were given permission to do it?

 

 

 

I find it hard to believe that the club would give a player permission to get piss drunk during the season, if that's what happened. Going out might be different, I don't know.

 

 

Edited November 7, 2024 by Erikse

[JEToon]

Just now, Erikse said:

 

I find it hard to believe that the club would give a player permission to get piss drunk if that's what happened. Going out might be different, I don't know.

 

Yeah, you are right, you don't actually know, that's the problem with calling it unprofessional 

[Chris_R]

1 minute ago, JEToon said:

 

I don't know the circumstances around it, you don't you are saying it is unprofessional for a player to have a night out, what if they were given permission to do it?

 

 

 

You think he was given permission to get blotto and be chucking up in the bogs?

 

Not castigating the lad, he's given loads to us and is clearly in a tough place but to assume this was (if it's as reported) something he sought permission to do and was within agreed bounds of behaviour is a bit of a bold suggestion as I think we all know Howe well enough to imagine what the response to that request would be.

 

If it were under Bruce, well I'd imagine ol' bacon face would be holding the toilet seat up for him and then buying him another pint.

[JEToon]

4 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

 

You think he was given permission to get blotto and be chucking up in the bogs?

 

Not castigating the lad, he's given loads to us and is clearly in a tough place but to assume this was (if it's as reported) something he sought permission to do and was within agreed bounds of behaviour is a bit of a bold suggestion as I think we all know Howe well enough to imagine what the response to that request would be.

 

If it were under Bruce, well I'd imagine ol' bacon face would be holding the toilet seat up for him and then buying him another pint.

 

I don't know that that happened. 

 

I would say from what is known of Howe that he cares for the person and likely would give players a pass on occasion. 

 

 

Edited November 7, 2024 by JEToon

[Big Geordie]

'If' his wife has denied him access to his kids, because of him arseing around - then it's understandable if he's going through a tough time. My daughter was weaponized against me, when I left my ex - indeed, she still is at 16.

 

It's really hard to go through, as a dad.

[alexf]

Don't care about what he does in his private life really but his performances for a good year or so now have been poor. He always looks a liability to me now which is so sad when he used to set the standard and barely put a foot wrong. 

 

Whether it's decline physically due to age, off field issues or a combination of both. Whatever the cause, it's resulted in a player currently not of the standard required.

[bobbydazzla]

 

[Chris_R]

1 minute ago, JEToon said:

I don't know that that happened. 

 

I would say from what is known of Howe that he cares for the person and likely would give players a pass on occasion. 

 

I dont know that is what happened either, but this is a discussion forum, not a court of law, so the burden of proof is somewhat lower on what we can talk about. This feels like a fair talking point. Nobody is saying anything definitely happened but we're discussing reports, and from what I can see most if not all of us are caveating what we've said with "if he's done this". I think 90% of posters are being pretty reasonable and fair.

 

As for Howe giving a pass, if so that's likely an after the event pass. I can't for one moment see him OKing someone getting smashed in public before the event.

[Chris_R]

4 minutes ago, alexf said:

his performances for a good year or so now have been poor. He always looks a liability

 

That's not accurate at all. He absolutely has not been poor for a year and always looked a liability.

 

He's had bad games, and been shaky at times, but just this season he's come back in and looked great making everyone say "Tino's still not ready, Trippier offers so much more, we've missed him" etc.

[joeyt]

It's barely reports though is it,  it's just based on a photo of him chatting to some girls and a user saying they'd heard he was being sick in the toilet and it's generated people coming up with wild conclusions about how unprofessional he is without knowing any other facts

[JEToon]

7 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

 

I dont know that is what happened either, but this is a discussion forum, not a court of law, so the burden of proof is somewhat lower on what we can talk about. This feels like a fair talking point. Nobody is saying anything definitely happened but we're discussing reports, and from what I can see most if not all of us are caveating what we've said with "if he's done this". I think 90% of posters are being pretty reasonable and fair.

 

As for Howe giving a pass, if so that's likely an after the event pass. I can't for one moment see him OKing someone getting smashed in public before the event.

 

Speaking about an incident that you don't even know happened and transposing it on someone isn't really a discussion forum, it makes it closer to a gossip column and most people on here are better than that  

[PauloGeordio]

4 minutes ago, joeyt said:

It's barely reports though is it,  it's just based on a photo of him chatting to some girls and a user saying they'd heard he was being sick in the toilet and it's generated people coming up with wild conclusions about how unprofessional he is without knowing any other facts

Yeah let's not let facts get in the way of a good story!

[tgarve]

15 hours ago, Dokko said:

The dramatic decline of this lad in a year is book worthy (no doubt our own stagnation mirrors this) Ruined his life and his career, and about to lose half of his wealth and access to his kids. If he was a decade younger you could forgive him, not at his age and seniority. 

 

Disgraceful behaviour from our on pitch captain. Had hoped he'd be here forever and get into coaching. Now I can't wait to see the back of him. fucking waste of space. Clearly on the path to self destruction. 

 

Needs sacking for going out the house looking like thst as well. 

Fucking bullshit 

[Chris_R]

10 minutes ago, joeyt said:

it's generated people coming up with wild conclusions about how unprofessional he is without knowing any other facts

 

Has it though? From what I can see, people are just saying that those actions - if anyone does them, whether or not they've happened here - are unprofessional, rather than saying Trippier had done these things and is unprofessional. I think most people are being fair, balanced, talking about hypotheticals and acknowledging that we only have rumours and discussing it accordingly.

[alexf]

9 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

 

That's not accurate at all. He absolutely has not been poor for a year and always looked a liability.

 

He's had bad games, and been shaky at times, but just this season he's come back in and looked great making everyone say "Tino's still not ready, Trippier offers so much more, we've missed him" etc.

I said "he looks a liability to me" I respect not everyone will agree but that's just my opinion. Even this season when he has played, I personally feel he looks slow and nervous to press. He also barely gets forward anymore which was the strongest part of his game. 

 

When I say he's been poor I'm speaking in relation to his previous standards he had set. The first few months of last season he was still one of, if not the best RB in the world the way he was playing. 

Something changed and when the injuries to the squad started mounting up and like others he was playing every few days with little rest, we started getting performances like the one away at spurs, the Everton away game, Chelsea in the cup when he came on etc.

 

He has struggled ever since the mid way point of last year and I include his England appearances, albeit I felt he was hung out to dry being asked to play left back.

 

Couple of steady appearances when he came back in early this season. However I feel the expectations and standards of his performances had dropped off so much by then that it was a little over hyped. I don't think anyone would say we were playing well in any early games despite winning.

 

And yes Tino struggled in early games as many others did but he's starting to come back into form thankfully.  

[Conjo]

1 hour ago, joeyt said:

 

 you're very naive if you don't think professional athletes don't have nights out and get drunk

 

I know they do. Just saying it isn't professional when you are an athlete. Not judging. I would never be able to stay away from alchohol completely either. Especially at that age, with that much money.

[Choppy Chop Chop]

9 minutes ago, tgarve said:

Fucking bullshit 

Agreed this shite belongs to a crap gossip site 

 

 

Edited November 7, 2024 by Choppy Chop Chop