lovejoy Posted December 4, 2024 Share Posted December 4, 2024 He’s been a mess in his personal life for ages, well over a year. He tried to force his own move away in the summer by going to Dubai off his own back. We should have sold him last Jan, we need to be far more ruthless with sales imo. As I say, there was an internal fall out yesterday. I have no idea how big it was and I have no idea if they’ll resolve it. But he definitely wasn’t ill tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Mag Posted December 4, 2024 Share Posted December 4, 2024 Think it’s best for all involved if we can recoup some sort of fee for him in January. His head obviously isn’t here anymore, hopefully Howe/Mitchell can see this now and get something back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 4, 2024 Share Posted December 4, 2024 (edited) It's really disappointing if he's let his personal problems ruin his football to this extent TBH. I know all footballers are human but it seems a very extreme situation. Maybe he just doesn't have the desire anymore. Edited December 4, 2024 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 4, 2024 Share Posted December 4, 2024 10 minutes ago, lovejoy said: He’s been a mess in his personal life for ages, well over a year. He tried to force his own move away in the summer by going to Dubai off his own back. We should have sold him last Jan, we need to be far more ruthless with sales imo. As I say, there was an internal fall out yesterday. I have no idea how big it was and I have no idea if they’ll resolve it. But he definitely wasn’t ill tonight. What was the fall out over? Seems odd to kick off in december I'm sure the club is happy to peddle him in January. That being said, if he wants away without a dee he might have a issue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 1 hour ago, pedro111 said: I've always been a big fan of Trippier the player but honestly even through the good times I'd watch his interviews etc and whilst on the surface they seemed great and he was saying all the right things I always felt that there was something a little off about him, like he didn't truly believe what he was saying. I don't know I could be way off but that's what I felt. I think he's just not naturally a stable guy. By his own words it took a lot of work from himself and others to get him to where he got. You hope for the best and want a happily ever after, but in the back of your mind you know it's not guaranteed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 Yeah, he talks a lot about how bad his lifestyle used to be when he was a younger player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 What would we get at this point? 5m? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 2 minutes ago, Weezertron said: What would we get at this point? 5m? Lucky if we could get that. Too many miles on the clock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Andy84 said: Real shame, best signing made under the new ownership imo in terms of his impact. Pity how it’s ending for him here Might just be me but it seemed like he was the catalyst for Eddie's great escape from almost certain relegation. An international, a professional footballer, a leader on the pitch and off. Even though he got hurt it seemed to change the vibe (as viewed from way outside). No idea what happened to him but it sure is sad. Edited December 5, 2024 by McDog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 (edited) North of around 4M in wages since the January Bayern bid, not really seen much return on that have we? Him and Almiron would've bought in around 20M in transfers, and we could've saved around 7M in wages when neither player has contributed much to be honest. We really need to be better sellers. Edited December 5, 2024 by Menace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 14 minutes ago, Menace said: North of around 4M in wages since the January Bayern bid, not really seen much return on that have we? Him and Almiron would've bought in around 20M in transfers, and we could've saved around 7M in wages when neither player has contributed much to be honest. We really need to be better sellers. If we are being honest the amount of mistakes he made that cost us goals probably cost us Europe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 29 minutes ago, r0cafella said: If we are being honest the amount of mistakes he made that cost us goals probably cost us Europe Yeah, Everton, and another club I forgot, plus against Chelsea we would have got a League Cup semi-final tie against Middlesbrough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Cardigan Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 2 hours ago, Menace said: North of around 4M in wages since the January Bayern bid, not really seen much return on that have we? Him and Almiron would've bought in around 20M in transfers, and we could've saved around 7M in wages when neither player has contributed much to be honest. We really need to be better sellers. Was there ever a serious bid for Almiron? Saudi was never an option for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 Just now, Crimson Cardigan said: Was there ever a serious bid for Almiron? Saudi was never an option for him. We had an offer from Charlotte but knocked it back. It was like 8m I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 He was an excellent signing no doubt but he has let us down massively these last few months, said at the time but he should have been sold to Bayern last January, would have helped a lot with all that PRS carry on last summer as well and all the unsettling it caused . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 7 hours ago, r0cafella said: What was the fall out over? Seems odd to kick off in december I'm sure the club is happy to peddle him in January. That being said, if he wants away without a dee he might have a issue I’ve really no idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 (edited) 1 minute ago, lovejoy said: I’ve really no idea. Thanks for sharing what you hear as well. As @Ronaldohas said I don't doubt anything your passing on. Edited December 5, 2024 by r0cafella Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 We’re not getting a fee for him if he wants out of England. If it’s to a prem club, could get say £2m, because someone down the bottom will see that being recouped by getting safety and a position or two up the table. No-one abroad paying a fee so we’d be best to let him go for £0. Considering he wasn’t giving captaincy in summer, surprised we didn’t try and get him gone then? Or could it be Howe wanted him still, then as the months moved on, it’s turned out he’s not been recoverable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 2 hours ago, r0cafella said: If we are being honest the amount of mistakes he made that cost us goals probably cost us Europe How many points were his ten assists worth? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 1 minute ago, Lenny said: How many points were his ten assists worth? Good question, but I was just lumping on the loss of European football to what we lost our in transfer fees and saved wages. Hes been good for us anyone suggesting otherwise isn't serious but holding on too long (as we have Wilson, Miggy, etc) means the price is higher than people realise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 5 minutes ago, Lenny said: How many points were his ten assists worth? Probably less than you expect, sure a big chunk of them 10 assists came in that 8-0 win against Sheffield United . He has been poor for the best part of a year now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 21 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: Probably less than you expect, sure a big chunk of them 10 assists came in that 8-0 win against Sheffield United . He has been poor for the best part of a year now. He had a poor run of games in December last year, making a few high profile errors. This was at a time, too, when every other available player was also absolutely dead on their feet. Otherwise we've been a significantly better team whilst he's been in it. His problem is off the field, not on it, and our quality has significantly reduced with him out of the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 1 minute ago, Lenny said: He had a poor run of games in December last year, making a few high profile errors. This was at a time, too, when every other available player was also absolutely dead on their feet. Otherwise we've been a significantly better team whilst he's been in it. His problem is off the field, not on it, and our quality has significantly reduced with him out of the side. I respect your opinion your memory is likely better than mine. From what I recall his form wasn't great throughout most of the second half of the season. I agree offensively he offers/offered a lot but defensively I think Tino is a much safer bet. Would you hang on to him out of interest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 (edited) 4 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I respect your opinion your memory is likely better than mine. From what I recall his form wasn't great throughout most of the second half of the season. I agree offensively he offers/offered a lot but defensively I think Tino is a much safer bet. Would you hang on to him out of interest? I don't think he was his best, but he certainly wasn't poor and remained a key player for us when he was playing. I would be looking to let him leave in Jan, sadly. Edited December 5, 2024 by Lenny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted December 5, 2024 Share Posted December 5, 2024 He was very poor for me. Easy to glaze over because of him being competent in a set up that meant little defending for England in summer, but even in the final start for us last season he was bad. Showed that he can’t come back in after games out and be the same guy, because he was so rusty and Man Utd took advantage. And when you are at that stage, it’s either an expensive coach or move on. People wanted the experience and as it turns out this season, that’s no where to be seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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