ExiledGeordie Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 1 hour ago, joeyt said: He adds completely different qualities to those two though Hes gone at the end of the season and there are more pressing concerns in the squad e.g RCB and RW particularly given our tight financial situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 Zero empathy, zero forgiveness, zero understanding. Nope, let's just jump to the worst conclusion and castigated him with extreme prejudice (good film that) from some. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Tross said: Grow up Would you care if Wilson got piss drunk while recovering? Edited November 7 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEToon Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 You have to be a good and proper weirdo to take photos of a player sitting in a bar. People on here are probably judging these players to a more intense level than they are judged internally, it's not entirely out the question they are given a day off during rehab etc for the sake of their mental health, the only person Trippier or any other player has to answer to is their manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 3 minutes ago, Erikse said: Would you care if Wilson got piss drunk while revovering? Not really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 1 minute ago, Fak said: Not really. Allright, I expect several people to defend it if it happens. Not that it will, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 There is the potential that Tripps wants a bit of an outrage to speed up his exit... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tross Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 8 minutes ago, Erikse said: Would you care if Wilson got piss drunk while revovering? Not at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Tross said: Not at all. Allright. I was born in the 90s myself, so I don't know much about how it was back then. But today that is highly unusual for players on the top level. That's one of the main reasons why players last longer today. Edited November 7 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 He’s in a bad way Trippier. Still wants/needs to be away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 1 minute ago, Erikse said: Allright. I was born in the 90s myself, so I don't know how things used to be. But today that is highly unusual for players on the top level. That's exactly why players last longer today. You're right, if it was every weekend he was on the lash getting blotto then I'd be aggrevated. But if he's done it as a one-off whilst in the middle of a divorce and not being able to play football then I don't see how anyone can hold it against him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 26 minutes ago, Fak said: Nothing wrong with hanging onto good footballers. The extra baggage and him slowly declining makes it not worth it personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tross Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 2 minutes ago, Erikse said: Allright. I was born in the 90s myself, so I don't know much about how it was back then. But today that is highly unusual for players on the top level. That's exactly why players last longer today. Football was better back then too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 1 minute ago, Menace said: The extra baggage and him slowly declining makes it not worth it personally. He's still got plenty to offer on the pitch. If he's still here in 3-4 years time doing Ciaran Clark, Matt Ritchie, Isaac Hayden then aye we've hung onto him for too long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Fak said: You're right, if it was every weekend he was on the lash getting blotto then I'd be aggrevated. But if he's done it as a one-off whilst in the middle of a divorce and not being able to play football then I don't see how anyone can hold it against him. I think most if not all recognized the circumstances around it. And I agree that we shouldn't chase him out of town when he is in that situation. I just don't see the problem with calling the act itself unprofessional. Edited November 7 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEToon Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Erikse said: I think most if not all recognized the circumstances around it. And I agree that we shouldn't chase him out of town when he is in that situation. I just don't see the problem with calling the act itself unprofessional. I don't know the circumstances around it, you don't you are saying it is unprofessional for a player to have a night out, what if they were given permission to do it? You also don't actually have evidence of what he actually done other than sit outside a bar Edited November 7 by JEToon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavMcEl Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 Since the minute we qualified for the CL in 2023 he went off the boil a bit didn't he, going on benders etc... and wasn't that around the time that his suppose cheating happened ? And its obviously affected him, as he went from being one of the best full backs in Europe (imo) to putting in some very questionable performances, I can think of 2 games just off the top of my head last season where he cost us matches, I'm sure there's a lot more examples.... end of the day his signing for me was the most important in the 25 years or so that I've been Following the club... the fact that he was willing to leave one of the top sides in Europe to join us in the position we where in was the 1st indication that we were serious.... and his performances from Jan 22 to May 23 were outstanding.... I know a lot if not all of this was brought on himself, but at the end of the day, the man's marriage is Breaking down and he's loosing his family... doesn't matter if he's a minted footballer or not, he's still a human being, the club should show support and solidarity 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 (edited) 1 minute ago, JEToon said: I don't know the circumstances around it, you don't you are saying it is unprofessional for a player to have a night out, what if they were given permission to do it? I find it hard to believe that the club would give a player permission to get piss drunk during the season, if that's what happened. Going out might be different, I don't know. Edited November 7 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEToon Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 Just now, Erikse said: I find it hard to believe that the club would give a player permission to get piss drunk if that's what happened. Going out might be different, I don't know. Yeah, you are right, you don't actually know, that's the problem with calling it unprofessional Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 1 minute ago, JEToon said: I don't know the circumstances around it, you don't you are saying it is unprofessional for a player to have a night out, what if they were given permission to do it? You think he was given permission to get blotto and be chucking up in the bogs? Not castigating the lad, he's given loads to us and is clearly in a tough place but to assume this was (if it's as reported) something he sought permission to do and was within agreed bounds of behaviour is a bit of a bold suggestion as I think we all know Howe well enough to imagine what the response to that request would be. If it were under Bruce, well I'd imagine ol' bacon face would be holding the toilet seat up for him and then buying him another pint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEToon Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Chris_R said: You think he was given permission to get blotto and be chucking up in the bogs? Not castigating the lad, he's given loads to us and is clearly in a tough place but to assume this was (if it's as reported) something he sought permission to do and was within agreed bounds of behaviour is a bit of a bold suggestion as I think we all know Howe well enough to imagine what the response to that request would be. If it were under Bruce, well I'd imagine ol' bacon face would be holding the toilet seat up for him and then buying him another pint. I don't know that that happened. I would say from what is known of Howe that he cares for the person and likely would give players a pass on occasion. Edited November 7 by JEToon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 'If' his wife has denied him access to his kids, because of him arseing around - then it's understandable if he's going through a tough time. My daughter was weaponized against me, when I left my ex - indeed, she still is at 16. It's really hard to go through, as a dad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 Don't care about what he does in his private life really but his performances for a good year or so now have been poor. He always looks a liability to me now which is so sad when he used to set the standard and barely put a foot wrong. Whether it's decline physically due to age, off field issues or a combination of both. Whatever the cause, it's resulted in a player currently not of the standard required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 1 minute ago, JEToon said: I don't know that that happened. I would say from what is known of Howe that he cares for the person and likely would give players a pass on occasion. I dont know that is what happened either, but this is a discussion forum, not a court of law, so the burden of proof is somewhat lower on what we can talk about. This feels like a fair talking point. Nobody is saying anything definitely happened but we're discussing reports, and from what I can see most if not all of us are caveating what we've said with "if he's done this". I think 90% of posters are being pretty reasonable and fair. As for Howe giving a pass, if so that's likely an after the event pass. I can't for one moment see him OKing someone getting smashed in public before the event. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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