More transfer rumours

[The College Dropout]

2 hours ago, ManDoon said:

He’d be a starter here though. Where else would he start? He’s a possibility 

West Ham. Chelsea. City. Arsenal. Man U.

 

2 hours ago, HTT II said:

Zaha is a poor man’s ASM!

 

2 hours ago, KaKa said:

I honestly think you could find at least 20 better wingers in France that would be better quality players for a fraction of the price, in comparison to Zaha.

 

We literally got ASM from there as a throwaway from Nice. I've seen people saying we should spend £75 million on Raphina, but again he came in from France for around what we paid for ASM.

 

The lack of imagination is astonishing man.  

For reference Zaha has scored the same amount of goals this season as ASM has in his entire time at Newcastle. Raphinha's

 

I like ASM but he hasn't actually consistently shown, that he's one of the best players outside the top 7. Zaha's a significant upgrade.

 

The bolded - Arsenal thought the same thing and opted against Zaha to sign Nicolas Pepe for £72m who has flopped. Why take the risk? We don't need to worry about re-sale value, we just need to get into Europe asap so we can attract a higher calibre of player (and demand/justify better commercial deals).

 

I personally love Raphinha. He's the real deal. Adapted to the league and Northern England. Undeniably good enough to play for a team fighting for the top 4. Why spend £40m on an unknown quantity instead?

 

I'd take Raphinha over Pino this summer easily. I wouldn't want a 19-year-old kid from Spain having the responsibility of firing us up the league.

[loki679]

Don't want Zaha, we can do better.

[KaKa]

Raphina cost around £17 million from France. There are wingers we can still get from there for nowhere near £40 million, or the £72 million Arsenal foolishly paid for Pepe. Zaha is 30 and would still cost us a significant fee and wages. It's a bad deal.

 

You like Raphina so much, but you don't want the club to go and try and find such a player themselves like Leeds did, but want us instead to go and fork out £75 million for him. It's that kind of lazy approach that will do us in.

 

You say why spend on an unknown quantity? Well because, that's the way football works, if the club does the work behind the scenes on the player and are happy with their profile and valuation then make the deal. Paying over the odds for Zaha at his age is a bad idea, and there is absolutely no guarantee he'd be a success here either, as I don't think he's that good that you can expect that as a certainty.

[SUPERTOON]

 

[Guest HTT II]

1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

 

Yes please. He’s like a much much better Perez. He’d cost silly money you’d imagine. 

[Jaqen]

Zaha is a good player the problem he's always had is that's he's worth much more to Palace than any of the big clubs would be willing to spend on him. 

[gbandit]

Be amazed if we could land Bowen but it’s not completely unrealistic 

[Mazzy]

Don't see why Bowen would want to leave in the summer, unless it's for a Champs League team. West Ham won't let him go easy either.

[papo]

Dybala 

 

Will never happen.

[KaKa]

56 minutes ago, Mazzy said:

Don't see why Bowen would want to leave in the summer, unless it's for a Champs League team. West Ham won't let him go easy either.

 

Yeah, can't see that one either.

 

A more realistic move for another English left footed winger that I really like is Dwight McNeil. Very underrated I think, and outside of Burnley's more rigid style he will be awesome. Whoever gets him from Burnley is going to get a steal there.

 

 

Edited April 8, 2022 by KaKa

[Fantail Breeze]

1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said:

 

 

Hate it when you read a headline like that and then see the source (and that’s a loose word) is something nonsensical like 90min.com. 

 

 

Edited April 8, 2022 by Fantail Breeze

[SUPERTOON]

3 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Yeah, can't see that one either.

 

A more realistic move for another English left footed winger that I really like is Dwight McNeil. Very underrated I think, and outside of Burnley's more rigid style he will be awesome. Whoever gets him from Burnley is going to get a steal there.

 

 

 

He’s absolutely shit 

[KaKa]

We'll see about that 

 

What is he, 21 years old? Pretty confident I'll be proven right on him.

[SUPERTOON]

1 minute ago, KaKa said:

We'll see about that 

 

What is he, 21 years old? Pretty confident I'll be proven right on him.

I’d bet he turns into another Matt Jarvis type player 

[KaKa]

No chance man

[Flip]

3 hours ago, KaKa said:

Raphina cost around £17 million from France. There are wingers we can still get from there for nowhere near £40 million, or the £72 million Arsenal foolishly paid for Pepe. Zaha is 30 and would still cost us a significant fee and wages. It's a bad deal.

 

You like Raphina so much, but you don't want the club to go and try and find such a player themselves like Leeds did, but want us instead to go and fork out £75 million for him. It's that kind of lazy approach that will do us in.

 

You say why spend on an unknown quantity? Well because, that's the way football works, if the club does the work behind the scenes on the player and are happy with their profile and valuation then make the deal. Paying over the odds for Zaha at his age is a bad idea, and there is absolutely no guarantee he'd be a success here either, as I don't think he's that good that you can expect that as a certainty.

 

If we want to compete we need a mix of experienced players and new ones. Signing Raphinha would be far beyond this club. Even for £75m. There's a reason Bayern, Barcelona etc wants him. Walks into most clubs starting XI. 

[KaKa]

Just now, Flip said:

 

If we want to compete we need a mix of experienced players and new ones. Signing Raphinha would be far beyond this club. Even for £75m. There's a reason Bayern, Barcelona etc wants him. Walks into most clubs starting XI. 

 

I know. That's the point I was making. We should be signing players like him at the initial stage, like Leeds did. Not after he has already fully emerged and is attracting interest from all the best clubs.

[Dokko]

3 minutes ago, Flip said:

 

If we want to compete we need a mix of experienced players and new ones. Signing Raphinha would be far beyond this club. Even for £75m. There's a reason Bayern, Barcelona etc wants him. Walks into most clubs starting XI. 

 

Hes a good player but most of the attraction around him is his £25m relegation release clause. Barca can barely afford that nevermind £75m. 

[Flip]

50 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

I know. That's the point I was making. We should be signing players like him at the initial stage, like Leeds did. Not after he has already fully emerged and is attracting interest from all the best clubs.

 

 

If only it was that easy all clubs would be doing it. For every Raphinha there's 10 failures.

 

48 minutes ago, Dokko said:

 

Hes a good player but most of the attraction around him is his £25m relegation release clause. Barca can barely afford that nevermind £75m. 

 

Not true at all. He's been rumoured for a while to top clubs and the relegation clause came to notice now in the last 2 months or so. Aren't many better right wingers than him. Been dominant for Brazil in the national side for the few games he has played and he has had great success individually at four clubs in a row now. 

[KaKa]

Just now, Flip said:

 

 

If only it was that easy all clubs would be doing it. For every Raphinha there's 10 failures.

 

 

Not true at all. He's been rumoured for a while to top clubs and the relegation clause came to notice now in the last 2 months or so. Aren't many better right wingers than him. Been dominant for Brazil in the national side for the few games he has played and he has had great success individually at four clubs in a row now. 

 

That doesn't mean you just don't bother man, my goodness

[Dokko]

Just now, Flip said:

 

 

If only it was that easy all clubs would be doing it. For every Raphinha there's 10 failures.

 

 

Not true at all. He's been rumoured for a while to top clubs and the relegation clause came to notice now in the last 2 months or so. Aren't many better right wingers than him. Been dominant for Brazil in the national side for the few games he has played and he has had great success individually at four clubs in a row now. 

 

It is true like. Just because Joe public have found out about the release clause recently doesn't mean the army of scouts in the network haven't known about it for ages.

 

You think barca have £75m to spend? ??

[Flip]

50 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

That doesn't mean you just don't bother man, my goodness

 

 

 

 Kaka, ma man, you need to start reading properly. I just suggested that you need a mix of both, you're the one insinuating we should only try and sign bunch of wingers from France and hope one blossoms into a fantastic footballer. If we want to compete soon we can't be applying the model you are suggesting. We need to buy established players as well. A mix of both in other words. 

 

50 minutes ago, Dokko said:

 

It is true like. Just because Joe public have found out about the release clause recently doesn't mean the army of scouts in the network haven't known about it for ages.

 

You think barca have £75m to spend? ??

 

I have no insight into clubs finances and the way they bend rules to sign players. That being said, I doubt they'd pay £75m for one player unless they began selling parts of their squad which has been rumoured. So in that regard you are right, however, doesn't take away the fact that many clubs would be interested in Raphinha even at that price. I mean, Ben White went for £50m last season no? And we bought Chris Wood for a like a billion. 

 

[Dokko]

Just now, Flip said:

 

 

 

 Kaka, ma man, you need to start reading properly. I just suggested that you need a mix of both, you're the one insinuating we should only try and sign bunch of wingers from France and hope one blossoms into a fantastic footballer. If we want to compete soon we can't be applying the model you are suggesting. We need to buy established players as well. A mix of both in other words. 

 

 

I have no insight into clubs finances and the way they bend rules to sign players. That being said, I doubt they'd pay £75m for one player unless they began selling parts of their squad which has been rumoured. So in that regard you are right, however, doesn't take away the fact that many clubs would be interested in Raphinha even at that price. I mean, Ben White went for £50m last season no? And we bought Chris Wood for a like a billion. 

 

As always, the truth is somewhere in between. He's a good player who's possible availability makes him very attractive to a lot of clubs. 

 

 

[KaKa]

6 hours ago, Flip said:

 

 

 

 Kaka, ma man, you need to start reading properly. I just suggested that you need a mix of both, you're the one insinuating we should only try and sign bunch of wingers from France and hope one blossoms into a fantastic footballer. If we want to compete soon we can't be applying the model you are suggesting. We need to buy established players as well. A mix of both in other words. 

 

 

I have no insight into clubs finances and the way they bend rules to sign players. That being said, I doubt they'd pay £75m for one player unless they began selling parts of their squad which has been rumoured. So in that regard you are right, however, doesn't take away the fact that many clubs would be interested in Raphinha even at that price. I mean, Ben White went for £50m last season no? And we bought Chris Wood for a like a billion. 

 

 

No sir I did not insinuate we should just sign a bunch of wingers from France only. 

 

In my previous post regarding Zaha I also said if we wanted prem experience too there were many others I'd have in ahead of him and gave the examples of Sarr and Dennis if Watford go down, as they have far more upside than Zaha and wouldn't cost as much in total i.e. fee and wages.

[Groundhog63]

23 hours ago, Mahoneys Tache said:

One of the English teachers at blaydon comp was known as pineapple heed. He used to her quite upset about it. Probably a really nice fella on reflection. Just had to deal with barely civilised kids. 

Self appointed arbiter of anti-racism, relentlessly unfunny David Baddiel, bullied a black footballer after blacking up and sporting a pineapple head.