Shearergol Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, 80 said: Hence the phrase football supporter. People are just grateful we're nowhere near as fucked as we looked in the first week of January. Not buying that. “Supporters” generally lambast shite players. Joselu got fair much more stick and was far better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) Big thanks for the err.. contributions This lad's quality is average at best suited possibly for a relegation team (at this level) that might just work around him That's not what anyone here aspires to be moving forwards. Please get rid. Edited May 8, 2022 by Amir_9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 He attacked that header early doors with all the gumption and conviction of a small child. He's cack, hope a Championship team will pay £10-£15m for him and we can fuck him off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Can’t see him being much of a threat in the Championship. He’s past his mediocre best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Not buying that. “Supporters” generally lambast shite players. Joselu got fair much more stick and was far better That's because they're often cunts, I'll go along with that. Plenty of shit supporters. Can't comment on Joselu. Edit: the other thing is it goes back to 'not demanding a club that wins but a club that tries'. That's a big marker to me of whether someone's being a wanker having a go at a player. Edited May 8, 2022 by 80 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 The reality is Wood seems to have been getting worse as a striker over time for us rather than better if anything. It's shit, I know. I also doubt we'll be off-loading him in the summer due to his contract. Therefore I hope he's 4th choice next season, hassling our defenders on the training pitch and giving our strikers a breather the next time we play Cambridge in the FA Cup etc. The thing that bothers me is also people criticising the signing without coming up with alternatives that filled the criteria we had at the time. Available at short notice, consistent track record, owned by a club that couldn't or wouldn't mess us around, suitable character, willing to join the mother of all relegation battles, willing to immediately lose their spot in the team - or be kicked out to another club - within 6 months without causing problems etc. etc. It was easier said than done, and some people go on like they've been personally offended by it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 2 hours ago, 80 said: The reality is Wood seems to have been getting worse as a striker over time for us rather than better if anything. It's shit, I know. I also doubt we'll be off-loading him in the summer due to his contract. Therefore I hope he's 4th choice next season, hassling our defenders on the training pitch and giving our strikers a breather the next time we play Cambridge in the FA Cup etc. The thing that bothers me is also people criticising the signing without coming up with alternatives that filled the criteria we had at the time. Available at short notice, consistent track record, owned by a club that couldn't or wouldn't mess us around, suitable character, willing to join the mother of all relegation battles, willing to immediately lose their spot in the team - or be kicked out to another club - within 6 months without causing problems etc. etc. It was easier said than done, and some people go on like they've been personally offended by it all. You’ve fitted those criteria to justify the signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: You’ve fitted those criteria to justify the signing. Which ones would you say didn’t apply at the time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) I’m not convinced he really made that much difference to whether we stayed up or not TBH. I can can understand why we had to go for him but in the end it’s closer to a bad signing than a good one. Not sure if he’ll even be useful off the bench next season. Maybe to rest the main striker in games we’re already winning. Edited May 8, 2022 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Shearergol said: You’ve fitted those criteria to justify the signing. So name your alternative signings and realistic criteria. The stage is yours. Maybe Ivan Toney for £60m or whatever it would have cost Brentford to accept guaranteed relegation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, BoSelecta said: Which ones would you say didn’t apply at the time? How do you know which clubs would deal with us or which players would join? how about scout a player on their ability rather than looking how they played 2 years ago and hope for the best? i’m gayle’s biggest critic but I’m convinced he’s a better option than Wood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 1 minute ago, 80 said: So name your alternative signings and realistic criteria. The stage is yours. Maybe Ivan Toney for £60m or whatever it would have cost Brentford to accept guaranteed relegation? TBF it’s not really the fans’ job to scout footballers. I agree with your main point and that’s why I fully accept the Wood signing. But it’s a shame he’s turned out to be so ineffective. Admittedly we also don’t cross the ball much or retain possession to allow people to get up with him. So it’s not all his fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, 80 said: So name your alternative signings and realistic criteria. The stage is yours. Maybe Ivan Toney for £60m or whatever it would have cost Brentford to accept guaranteed relegation? Dunno, am I a football scout? I hate that argument, for the record. It’s their job to identify a better option than Wood. They failed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 He's helped us stay in the league, mission accomplished. He'll barely feature next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 This stuff starts to sound like the fan equivalent of Steve Bruce. Howe just needed to "show something. That bit of quality that would've made the difference". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, 80 said: This stuff starts to sound like the fan equivalent of Steve Bruce. Howe just needed to "show something. That bit of quality that would've made the difference". Edited May 8, 2022 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Dunno, am I a football scout? I hate that argument, for the record. It’s their job to identify a better option than Wood. They failed. One they could sign that wasn't an insane amount of money. They over payed for Wood but he had a release clause and time was running out. For the record, I'm not privy to all the agents they talked to. My guess is that they had plenty of better options that failed for the obvious January reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Declaring that you're (not you) not happy with something but not having any ability or interest to explain how or why that thing makes you unhappier than any other approach. But someone should've done something to make the thing go better. The club should have signed a better forward. Not sure who, not sure what kind, not sure where, not sure how, not really sure when. But not signing him was a failure. Ok cool, interesting read. Everyone is a football scout on some level if they like watching football and have some power of judgement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nun tumblers Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 It is what it is , let the kid be hes busting a gut ....may i suggest peeps are over hyping Wilson ...he"s no answer mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 49 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Dunno, am I a football scout? I hate that argument, for the record. It’s their job to identify a better option than Wood. They failed. It’s the equivalent of “what other manager could we get?” to justify keeping a shite manager. We literally pay people thousands of pounds to scout players. If they couldn’t come up with a better option than Wood for £25m, that’s worrying™ in itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nun tumblers Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Ihow many top 10 teams would miss Wilson Its a Ashley hangover ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 a fully fit wilson is fucking awsome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Fantail Breeze said: It’s the equivalent of “what other manager could we get?” to justify keeping a shite manager. We literally pay people thousands of pounds to scout players. If they couldn’t come up with a better option than Wood for £25m, that’s worrying™ in itself. That's actually a great example. Loads of unpaid amateurs on here were able to give loads of options for replacing Steve Bruce. We didn't need to be Sporting Directors to throw a few ideas around, which showed how bad the club was at hiring managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nun tumblers Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 Like spurs man u arsenal liverpool man city westham ....get a grip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nun tumblers Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, huss9 said: a fully fit wilson is fucking awsome. Dont be stupid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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