Outre Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 I can see why Howe isn’t rushing to sign him. Despite a couple of good blocks and clearances he was exposed today for a lack of pace. Salah burned him despite a 10 yard head start, and Keita just waltzed past the poor bloke with an easy 1-2. Hapless at times and sadly not at the level we need next year. Good serviceman but we already have a few too many of those. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paullow Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 He'd be more than fine for next season, possibly the season after, but then he'd probably have the same issue as he has at Aston Villa after that with the respective club looking to move beyond that level of player. I'd still sign him though, it would be one less (totally) new player to bed in, and probably deserves the move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Outre said: I can see why Howe isn’t rushing to sign him. Despite a couple of good blocks and clearances he was exposed today for a lack of pace. Salah burned him despite a 10 yard head start, and Keita just waltzed past the poor bloke with an easy 1-2. Hapless at times and sadly not at the level we need next year. Good serviceman but we already have a few too many of those. 13 matches and still no assists or goals will also have a lot to do with it too if Howe is looking for an attacking fullback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 I thought he was very good today, got caught out once against arguably the world’s best player… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 He’s quality and been an absolute revelation. The two caveats are he’s not great going forward and he lacks a yard of pace for a modern fullback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, macphisto said: 13 matches and still no assists or goals will also have a lot to do with it too if Howe is looking for an attacking fullback. I don’t think Joe Gomez has a goal in his life and he’s on the verge of winning the Quad, having played 70-odd games for Liverpool. He didn’t get forward today either. I’m fairly certain Targett can do a similar job for our team/squad the next 5 years. Edited April 30, 2022 by greydos Spelling errors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outre Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 He makes Krafth look like Kyle Walker. He is that slow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, greydos said: I don’t think Joe Gomez has a goal in his life and he’s on the verge of winning the Quad, having played 70-odd games for Liverpool. He didn’t get forward today either. I’m fairly certain Targett can do a similar job for our team/squad the next 5 years. Gomez is a centre back playing out of position at right back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 I hope we sign him permanently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Outre said: He makes Krafth look like Kyle Walker. He is that slow. Get the fuck outre here man! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, greydos said: I don’t think Joe Gomez has a goal in his life and he’s on the verge of winning the Quad, having played 70-off games for Liverpool. He did t get forward today either. I’m fairly certain Targett can do a similar job for our team/squad the next 5 years. Are you seriously quoting Liverpool who have Robertson and TAA as their regular fullbacks as an argument to keep Targett??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Outre said: He makes Krafth look like Kyle Walker. He is that slow. This is so ridiculous man. Wow ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 I don't think we could spend 15m any better than on this lad. Are there better LBs in the world, I mean yeah, but not at that price Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Outre said: He makes Krafth look like Kyle Walker. He is that slow. I've read some bollocks on here over the years but that's a priceless contribution mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 hour ago, macphisto said: Are you seriously quoting Liverpool who have Robertson and TAA as their regular fullbacks as an argument to keep Targett??? Yes. I’m saying Targett should be a starter for 2 seasons and then for seasons 3-5 move to the job Gomez does for Liverpool now. Fill in 20-odd games a season when your first choice fullbacks need a rest and don’t let standards slip. At the business end of the season having a deputy fullback who defends as a priority and perhaps doesn’t offer so much going forward is really valuable. Sometimes you need to churn out 1-0s to keep momentum going in between the “big” games. Gomez has helped Liverpool do that. Targett can do that job for us in 2024-2025 when we’ll be going after champions league, perhaps alongside a europa league campaign Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said: Gomez is a centre back playing out of position at right back Yes, so the job he did at full back is comparable to the job I say Targett can do at full back. Who cares if Gomez is a centre back? Does that mean Klopp didn’t play him at full back today? Does it mean Gomez attacked and overlapped today? No. He played fullback, stayed defensive, held position alongside the centre backs and Liverpool won comfortably. Targett can do that job for us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 1 minute ago, greydos said: Yes. I’m saying Targett should be a starter for 2 seasons and then for seasons 3-5 move to the job Gomez does for Liverpool now. Fill in 20-odd games a season when your first choice fullbacks need a rest and don’t let standards slip. At the business end of the season having a deputy fullback who defends as a priority and perhaps doesn’t offer so much going forward is really valuable. Sometimes you need to churn out 1-0s to keep momentum going in between the “big” games. Gomez has helped Liverpool do that. Targett can do that job for us in 2024-2025 when we’ll be going after champions league, perhaps alongside a europa league campaign How would that work when he left Villa at the first sign that he wasn't a 1st team player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, macphisto said: How would that work when he left Villa at the first sign that he wasn't a 1st team player? I think it works in that for 2 years he’s first choice like I said. In year 3 he can try and fight to keep the shirt. At that stage (2024-2025 season) lots will hopefully have changed: (1) he’s 29/30, so getting on; (2) we’re a big team going places in Europe with high-calibre players; (3) he’s been demoted to squad player by both us and Villa in the last few years, so he may be resigned to it/accept the fact he’s reached his ceiling; (4) he might view 20+ games as acceptable in our “Project” which will be much more visible and enticing than it is now; (5) Southgate’s told him playing for us alongside his England colleague Tripps will see him in the squad for the euros (ok so the last point is pure fantasy!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Just now, greydos said: I think it works in that for 2 years he’s first choice like I said. In year 3 he can try and fight to keep the shirt. At that stage (2024-2025 season) lots will hopefully have changed: (1) he’s 29/30, so getting on; (2) we’re a big team going places in Europe with high-calibre players; (3) he’s been demoted to squad player by both us and Villa in the last few years, so he may be resigned to it/accept the fact he’s reached his ceiling; (4) he might view 20+ games as acceptable in our “Project” which will be much more visible and enticing than it is now; (5) Southgate’s told him playing for us alongside his England colleague Tripps will see him in the squad for the euros (ok so the last point is pure fantasy!) That's a lot of ifs and 29/30 is not getting on, it's the peak years of his career. The issue with Targett is not his quality but style of play, he offers very little going forward. If that is what Howe wants then fine but I'm sure he'd want a fullback who is more attacking, even if it means we lose a little bit in defence. Then in two years time when we upgrade that position, if we have to, we buy the same type of player but of higher quality. I'll not comment on the last point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Thought he was good today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 He’s an excellent left back. Is he world class, no. Does he lack raw speed, yes but he’s not that slow. Real steady Eddie, solid and dependable and he’s been excellent since he arrived. Seems a no brainer to sign him but depends if they’re looking at other options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Absolutely mental if the press are right and we have reservations over Targett but are looking to retain Dummett. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Pretty much the last man on the pitch we should have had concerns about today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWMag Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 Still convinced that Howe will want to move to a 3 CB’s and wing back system in which case he probably won’t sign, and it would make more sense of the links to Renan Lodi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted April 30, 2022 Share Posted April 30, 2022 we're rebuilding the squad. £15m for a decent LB to tie us over for a year or two is great. we might get a pacier or more attacking full back for that much but he'll probably not be as good a defender. wonder how much Mbabu would cost? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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