Stifler Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 9 minutes ago, Jonas said: Boro have finished ahead of them more often than not for coming up 100years now, pretty dominant in recent times (since the 60s) 35-18. Aye but the Redcar Reds play in North Yorkshire, so Sunderland still don’t get overtaken by them for NETD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 18 minutes ago, Stifler said: Aye but the Redcar Reds play in North Yorkshire, so Sunderland still don’t get overtaken by them for NETD. Its a reflection of their general status and achievements relative to a club like Boro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 0-1 to relegation threatened Millwall; who had one shot on target. Tough to take. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, Disco said: Turns out he’s got a couple. Prolific compared to the others. Sunderland’s second tier approach to moneyball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fountain Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 17 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Sunderland’s continuing presence in the lower leagues next season means that for those of us born in 1982 they will have spent more than half our lifetimes outside the top flight. I propose that they aren’t stuck there - it’s their natural home I was born in 1969 and they've spent more time out the top flight in my lifetime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fountain Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 For a team full of £10m-£30m players they're pretty shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 41 minutes ago, The Fountain said: For a team full of £10m-£30m players they're pretty shite. Give over ...Clarke is worth about 60m and better than Gordon. So I've heard. Must be missing something myself as I don't see his goal output or help being great. Know Neil, and he thinks RTG is hilarious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fountain Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 18 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Sunderland’s continuing presence in the lower leagues next season means that for those of us born in 1982 they will have spent more than half our lifetimes outside the top flight. I propose that they aren’t stuck there - it’s their natural home You have to be at least 74 to have been alive when Sunderland haven't spent the majority of seasons out the top flight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Just saw their results. Fucking Duncan Watmore popping up. 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 2 hours ago, The Fountain said: You have to be at least 74 to have been alive when Sunderland haven't spent the majority of seasons out the top flight What's the stats for the last 40 years? Seasons in/out top flight for us and them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 17 minutes ago, Karjala said: What's the stats for the last 40 years? Seasons in/out top flight for us and them? In the top division: Newcastle - 34 out of the last 40 Sunderland - 17 out of the last 40 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 watmore, bent, gayle, mitro.... who else has come back to haunt them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 17 minutes ago, huss9 said: watmore, bent, gayle, mitro.... who else has come back to haunt them? mandron, frazer campbell, grabban, leadbitter, darul murphy too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 3 hours ago, The Fountain said: You have to be at least 74 to have been alive when Sunderland haven't spent the majority of seasons out the top flight Not *quite* true. Anyone born from 1994 to 2010 could say they've lived through Sunderland being in the top flight more than outside it. Outside of that range though, you're right and you have to go back to people born in or before 1950. (Yes I'm bored, but Excel meant it really only took about 5 minutes) From 1891 to 1958 they were ever-present in the top flight. They have history - Just not in the memories of anyone who also can't remember Hitler's bombing raids. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Just for fun I've just checked ours, and there's nobody who has lived under Newcastle being outside the PL more than in it. Even if you were born in 1892, you'd still not be able to say that. It's not even close for any birth year. Closest I can find is people born in the mid-30s or late 70s, but even then for those people it's not even close to parity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 10 minutes ago, Chris_R said: Not *quite* true. Anyone born from 1994 to 2010 could say they've lived through Sunderland being in the top flight more than outside it. Outside of that range though, you're right and you have to go back to people born in or before 1950. (Yes I'm bored, but Excel meant it really only took about 5 minutes) From 1891 to 1958 they were ever-present in the top flight. They have history - Just not in the memories of anyone who also can't remember Hitler's bombing raids. Incredible to think that their most recent spell under the much-loathed Ellis Short was their second-longest unbroken term in the top flight - ten seasons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomYam Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, Chris_R said: Not *quite* true. Anyone born from 1994 to 2010 could say they've lived through Sunderland being in the top flight more than outside it. Outside of that range though, you're right and you have to go back to people born in or before 1950. (Yes I'm bored, but Excel meant it really only took about 5 minutes) From 1891 to 1958 they were ever-present in the top flight. They have history - Just not in the memories of anyone who also can't remember Hitler's bombing raids. Yes - although Sunderland actually joined the league in 1890. By season 1957-58 Sunderland had clocked up more seasons in the top flight than any other and were the last of the 19th century clubs to be relegated. They didn't just survive in the top division either - before that relegation season they had finished in the top 12 of the league 84% of the time and the top 5 43% of the time. Quite remarkable consistency for the time and Sunderland had by far the best record in the league. Of course the illegal payments scandal and subsequent relegation was the end of Sunderland's status as one of the true giants of English football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 3 hours ago, TomYam said: Yes - although Sunderland actually joined the league in 1890. By season 1957-58 Sunderland had clocked up more seasons in the top flight than any other and were the last of the 19th century clubs to be relegated. They didn't just survive in the top division either - before that relegation season they had finished in the top 12 of the league 84% of the time and the top 5 43% of the time. Quite remarkable consistency for the time and Sunderland had by far the best record in the league. Of course the illegal payments scandal and subsequent relegation was the end of Sunderland's status as one of the true giants of English football. Yep - there is no argument that certainly before WWII, Sunderland were one of the biggest clubs in England Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Watched the game, for my sins, yesterday. Apart from Ginger Duncan scoring the winner, George Honeyman had a decent game. Had the Millwall comms on 2nd half and they kept calling O'9... O'Neen I'd be annoyed if I cared 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 1 hour ago, Groundhog63 said: Watched the game, for my sins, yesterday. Apart from Ginger Duncan scoring the winner, George Honeyman had a decent game. Had the Millwall comms on 2nd half and they kept calling O'9... O'Neen I'd be annoyed if I cared 😂 Onion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 An account of the wages scandal. Obviously in true groomers fashion it wasn’t really their fault and they manage to drop us into the equation: https://rokerreport.sbnation.com/2018/2/28/17061448/the-moment-it-all-changed-for-sunderland-afc-an-illegal-payments-scandal-that-rocked-wearside Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Their season has a definite " on the beach" feel to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 45 minutes ago, Nucasol said: Onion? Aye. Him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choppy Chop Chop Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 "Far too many have got the clap" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 How are they not embarrassed by this WeePhiliie stuff? https://x.com/ne5westend/status/1782006024754360687?s=46&t=JsXtnoSrRpo8KokdoIC95w Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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