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[Fak]

Genuinely don't see the hype over Jobe. Granted I don't see him week in week out, but everytime I've watched him I've never seen him take a game by the scruff of the neck. Shows glimpses of quality here and there but that's about it.

 

That being said he must have something if there's a handful of quality Jorman sides after him. No doubt he'll end up with the same dickhead ego as his brother before long.

[ED209]

18 minutes ago, Fak said:

Genuinely don't see the hype over Jobe. Granted I don't see him week in week out, but everytime I've watched him I've never seen him take a game by the scruff of the neck. Shows glimpses of quality here and there but that's about it.

 

That being said he must have something if there's a handful of quality Jorman sides after him. No doubt he'll end up with the same dickhead ego as his brother before long.

 

he seems ponderously slow whenever I have seen him play. 

[Sima]

Dortmund know that him being English-born, a couple of season performing at a semi-competent level with some Champions League appearances thrown in will have the likes of Fulham, Crystal Palace and Everton willing to thrown £40m+ at them.

[Nucasol]

Just now, Sima said:

Dortmund know that him being English-born, a couple of season performing at a semi-competent level with some Champions League appearances thrown in will have the likes of Fulham, Crystal Palace and Everton willing to thrown £40m+ at them.

Cue the Wayne Lineker of Bellinghams being sold to West Ham in 2027/28, stood outside the athletics stadium doing that cringey “X” thing with his arms.

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

Not sure if anyone has mentioned the elephant in the room at all but personally I think Sunderland will struggle next season.

[Sima]

22 minutes ago, Nucasol said:

Cue the Wayne Lineker of Bellinghams being sold to West Ham in 2027/28, stood outside the athletics stadium doing that cringey “X” thing with his arms.

 

I was thinking of another London club but completely forgot about West Ham.  Ideal for him.

[Pablo123]

21 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said:

Not sure if anyone has mentioned the elephant in the room at all but personally I think Sunderland will struggle next season.

I very much doubt it. Most their starting 11 are worth between £20-£80 million, and that's without factoring in the generational talents. I see them top 3 candidates on that basis alone, and with Tunnock's Teacakes flag displays, the world is their John Oster!

[madras]

27 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said:

Not sure if anyone has mentioned the elephant in the room at all but personally I think Sunderland will struggle next season.

I don't.

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 07:37 by madras

[TeddySAFC]

On 30/05/2025 at 09:45, Benwell Lad said:

 Can I ask those on here who rate Bellingham and think they'll get good money for him what they have seen to indicate that ?

The times I've seen him he's never stood out or dominated a game in that league, so what makes anyone think he can do it at a much higher level ?

Birmingham virtually gave him away and no PL or even top Championship club was interested.

If I change my surname to Messi will I be worth a lot of money ?

He's a quality footballer, I watch him every week. 

 

He will go this summer to Dortmund, I actually think his name gets him a bad rep purely because people are always looking to compare him to his brother at every opportunity. He hasn't got the same ability as Jude and never will have but he will be a very good player in a top division in years to come. Dortmund will be buying him for his potential not for the here and now (Although I would expect him to play quite a bit when he moves)

 

Birmingham giving him away wasn't strictly true, He wanted a clear pathway to playing senior football and bearing in mind he was only 17 at the time we presented that for him. We have numerous coaches and a sporting director who helped him and Jude massively at Birmingham through the academy and moved to us, We were simply lucky to get him as everything was aligned and made sense for both parties.

 

The three midfielders in the team of the season this year are Bellingham, Hamer and Tanaka from Leeds. Bellingham is 7 years younger than both and his stats are better than both in quite a few metrics. He's definitely more of a box to box / breaking up the play midfielder than one that's going to bang goals in.

 

If we get close to 40M Euro for him though, it's great business for us as it frees up a fair bit of cash for PSR or whatever the bollocks it is.

 

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 07:59 by TeddySAFC

[ponsaelius]

Brownhill scored 18 goals from midfield and didn't get in the team of the season?

 

Championship has gone woke.

[Benwell Lad]

45 minutes ago, TeddySAFC said:

He's a quality footballer, I watch him every week. 

 

He will go this summer to Dortmund, I actually think his name gets him a bad rep purely because people are always looking to compare him to his brother at every opportunity. He hasn't got the same ability as Jude and never will have but he will be a very good player in a top division in years to come. Dortmund will be buying him for his potential not for the here and now (Although I would expect him to play quite a bit when he moves)

 

Birmingham giving him away wasn't strictly true, He wanted a clear pathway to playing senior football and bearing in mind he was only 17 at the time we presented that for him. We have numerous coaches and a sporting director who helped him and Jude massively at Birmingham through the academy and moved to us, We were simply lucky to get him as everything was aligned and made sense for both parties.

 

The three midfielders in the team of the season this year are Bellingham, Hamer and Tanaka from Leeds. Bellingham is 7 years younger than both and his stats are better than both in quite a few metrics. He's definitely more of a box to box / breaking up the play midfielder than one that's going to bang goals in.

 

If we get close to 40M Euro for him though, it's great business for us as it frees up a fair bit of cash for PSR or whatever the bollocks it is.

 

 

 

 

 

Ah you're back ? Interesting timing, I thought you left in a huff, though I may be confusing you with someone else.

 

Were you the one who used the phrase "generational talent" about another Sunderland player ? 

If so I'd think that a team having a midfield which included a generational talent and a £40m rated payer, in last season's second division, would have finished closer than 24 points off the promotion places and 16 off third. Apart from a very fast start, that midfield seldom dominated a game and pretty much scraped through the remainder of the season. Nor did they rise to the play off occasions but you somehow won them so fair play.

Point taken on the pathway consideration.

 

Also can you tell me which currency broker you use ?  A twitter post a page or so ago in this thread quoted £25m and now you say €40m ??

 

Anyway, well done if you think it will "free up a fair bit f cash for PSR", but based on last season you will need to spend £100m plus just to get to Leeds level and they're third favourites for relegation.

[gotham town]

1 hour ago, TeddySAFC said:

He's a quality footballer, I watch him every week. 

 

He will go this summer to Dortmund, I actually think his name gets him a bad rep purely because people are always looking to compare him to his brother at every opportunity. He hasn't got the same ability as Jude and never will have but he will be a very good player in a top division in years to come. Dortmund will be buying him for his potential not for the here and now (Although I would expect him to play quite a bit when he moves)

 

Birmingham giving him away wasn't strictly true, He wanted a clear pathway to playing senior football and bearing in mind he was only 17 at the time we presented that for him. We have numerous coaches and a sporting director who helped him and Jude massively at Birmingham through the academy and moved to us, We were simply lucky to get him as everything was aligned and made sense for both parties.

 

The three midfielders in the team of the season this year are Bellingham, Hamer and Tanaka from Leeds. Bellingham is 7 years younger than both and his stats are better than both in quite a few metrics. He's definitely more of a box to box / breaking up the play midfielder than one that's going to bang goals in.

 

If we get close to 40M Euro for him though, it's great business for us as it frees up a fair bit of cash for PSR or whatever the bollocks it is.

 

 

 

 

 

Never mind all that, KeithS30S is the thickest cunt on the planet.

[Chris_R]

Yeah the "it frees up a fair bit of cash for PSR" line made me laugh in an otherwise illuminating post. PSR concerns are for clubs that intend to spend way beyond their means for whatever reason, I'm not sure Sunderland have shown any intent of doing that under their current ownership? Quite the reverse really. I'd expect you to just be there to make up the numbers, hope you can scrape a result in the only 2 important games of the season and disappear back off with a pocket full of cash.

 

And that probably reads quite spiky, it's not meant to be, it's a genuine observation of what I think you'll do. No different to Burnley. In fact probably more so as you finished a long way behind them and Leeds in the league so you'd have to go some just to be better than those 2, and the last few seasons in the PL have shown us that the clubs that go up have to really go something to stay up. If you're 90+% likely to be relegated no matter what, it probably makes sense for most clubs to just let that slide closer to 99% and not roll the dice on financially imperiling yourselves.

[TeddySAFC]

16 minutes ago, Benwell Lad said:

 

Ah you're back ? Interesting timing, I thought you left in a huff, though I may be confusing you with someone else.

 

Were you the one who used the phrase "generational talent" about another Sunderland player ? 

If so I'd think that a team having a midfield which included a generational talent and a £40m rated payer, in last season's second division, would have finished closer than 24 points off the promotion places and 16 off third. Apart from a very fast start, that midfield seldom dominated a game and pretty much scraped through the remainder of the season. Nor did they rise to the play off occasions but you somehow won them so fair play.

Point taken on the pathway consideration.

 

Also can you tell me which currency broker you use ?  A twitter post a page or so ago in this thread quoted £25m and now you say €40m ??

 

Anyway, well done if you think it will "free up a fair bit f cash for PSR", but based on last season you will need to spend £100m plus just to get to Leeds level and they're third favourites for relegation.

Fabrizio Romano on X: "🚨🟡⚫️ Jobe Bellingham has given his priority to joining Borussia Dortmund! Decision in principle has been made, as BILD has reported. ⚠️ Sunderland have currently no intention to negotiate under release clause value worth €40m. https://t.co/hj1hK99WXU" / X

[madras]

8 minutes ago, TeddySAFC said:

Fabrizio Romano on X: "🚨🟡⚫️ Jobe Bellingham has given his priority to joining Borussia Dortmund! Decision in principle has been made, as BILD has reported. ⚠️ Sunderland have currently no intention to negotiate under release clause value worth €40m. https://t.co/hj1hK99WXU" / X

Wanted 25mill for Jack Clarke as well.

[Dancing Brave]

35 minutes ago, Benwell Lad said:

 

Ah you're back ? Interesting timing, I thought you left in a huff

 

 

[Dancing Brave]

28 minutes ago, gotham town said:

 

Never mind all that, KeithS30S is the thickest cunt on the planet.

I agree 

[Benwell Lad]

27 minutes ago, TeddySAFC said:

Fabrizio Romano on X: "🚨🟡⚫️ Jobe Bellingham has given his priority to joining Borussia Dortmund! Decision in principle has been made, as BILD has reported. ⚠️ Sunderland have currently no intention to negotiate under release clause value worth €40m. https://t.co/hj1hK99WXU" / X

 

So, X and Germany's equivalent of The Sun. We'll see.  I believe Trump has no intention of negotiating his 250% tariffs either, but if Dortmund have seen something which even most Sunderland supporters say they haven't then you never know.

[Chris_R]

Don't blame Sunderland for trying to play hardball, exactly what they should be doing. But 40m is an outrageous sum for a player who has never kicked a ball in the top flight and hasn't exactly been tearing it up every week in the Championship either.

 

Can't help but think that "Decent young player in a 6th(?) placed Championship team" is about £10-15m? £40m feels like a proven, well-performing PL player.

[SteV]

4 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

Don't blame Sunderland for trying to play hardball, exactly what they should be doing. But 40m is an outrageous sum for a player who has never kicked a ball in the top flight and hasn't exactly been tearing it up every week in the Championship either.

 

Can't help but think that "Decent young player in a 6th(?) placed Championship team" is about £10-15m? £40m feels like a proven, well-performing PL player.

40m Euros mind, so closer to 34/35m pounds. Still seems an awful lot like.

 

But on the other hand, cheap for a generational talent…

[TheBrownBottle]

£25m sounded about right tbh, but he’s their player.  And Dortmund and Bellingham seem to have gobshited to the press prematurely, so I can understand them playing hardball.

 

Interesting that no English PL club seemed remotely interested in him.  Probably because their scouts have seen him. 

[Harry 209]

18 hours ago, Joelinton7 said:

They’re absolutely desperate to be relevant 

 

 

KeithSOS there, typing from his jail cell on the special wing.

In that tweet he says, whilst CRYING WITH LAUGHTER, we are the 7th biggest spenders in the league and finished a whole point above 7th.

However that's a good return isn't it? Doesn't it mean we are overachieving? Why does he think thats so funny?

[Joelinton7]

9 minutes ago, Harry 209 said:

KeithSOS there, typing from his jail cell on the special wing.

In that tweet he says, whilst CRYING WITH LAUGHTER, we are the 7th biggest spenders in the league and finished a whole point above 7th.

However that's a good return isn't it? Doesn't it mean we are overachieving? Why does he think thats so funny?

7th is literally their pinnacle. They don’t even know what a “Champions League” is. They’ll hype themselves up all summer, get completely carried away, get pasted 4-0 by Bournemouth or something on their first day. Complain that they should be beating “little teams”. They’ll then keep suffering heavy defeat after heavy defeat. It’ll dawn on them that their glorious return has been more akin to a kick in the balls. Then they’ll start bewing the players and hounding the manager out. Then they’ll get relegated. 

[Chiaia]

3 hours ago, TeddySAFC said:

He's a quality footballer, I watch him every week. 

 

He will go this summer to Dortmund, I actually think his name gets him a bad rep purely because people are always looking to compare him to his brother at every opportunity. He hasn't got the same ability as Jude and never will have but he will be a very good player in a top division in years to come. Dortmund will be buying him for his potential not for the here and now (Although I would expect him to play quite a bit when he moves)

 

Birmingham giving him away wasn't strictly true, He wanted a clear pathway to playing senior football and bearing in mind he was only 17 at the time we presented that for him. We have numerous coaches and a sporting director who helped him and Jude massively at Birmingham through the academy and moved to us, We were simply lucky to get him as everything was aligned and made sense for both parties.

 

The three midfielders in the team of the season this year are Bellingham, Hamer and Tanaka from Leeds. Bellingham is 7 years younger than both and his stats are better than both in quite a few metrics. He's definitely more of a box to box / breaking up the play midfielder than one that's going to bang goals in.

 

If we get close to 40M Euro for him though, it's great business for us as it frees up a fair bit of cash for PSR or whatever the bollocks it is.

 

 

 

 

You’ve had 3 top 10 level teams in 70 years. I think what sunlun deem a quality player  is different to what we deem a quality player 

 

 

Edited Tuesday at 11:17 by Chiaia

[Chiaia]

43 minutes ago, Harry 209 said:

KeithSOS there, typing from his jail cell on the special wing.

In that tweet he says, whilst CRYING WITH LAUGHTER, we are the 7th biggest spenders in the league and finished a whole point above 7th.

However that's a good return isn't it? Doesn't it mean we are overachieving? Why does he think thats so funny?

7th is the best any mackem under the age of 75 has ever seen