Chicken Dancer Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Think it’s about time people stop saying ‘they’ll be shit soon/next season’. People have been saying it since the second they got promoted and they’ve just finished 7th in their first season in the top flight in a decade. It’s very impressive and the fact they’ve deservedly done us twice along the way probably means it’s the best season they’ve ever experienced. It may not be pretty but it’s effective and signing Xhaka was a masterstroke. I see them more as the next Brighton/Brentford, proper data nonces but they’ll never really be in danger again imo. Staying up the first season was always going to be the hardest part and they’d had that wrapped up by about Christmas. Genuinely believe they’re here to stay and probably kick on now, though suspect the ceiling will be about Europa. From the late goals in the playoffs last season to beating us twice to qualifying for the Europa yesterday, it’s been one hell of a 12 months for them that’s for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 9 minutes ago, Chicken Dancer said: Think it’s about time people stop saying ‘they’ll be shit soon/next season’. People have been saying it since the second they got promoted and they’ve just finished 7th in their first season in the top flight in a decade. It’s very impressive and the fact they’ve deservedly done us twice along the way probably means it’s the best season they’ve ever experienced. It may not be pretty but it’s effective and signing Xhaka was a masterstroke. I see them more as the next Brighton/Brentford, proper data nonces but they’ll never really be in danger again imo. Staying up the first season was always going to be the hardest part and they’d had that wrapped up by about Christmas. Genuinely believe they’re here to stay and probably kick on now, though suspect the ceiling will be about Europa. From the late goals in the playoffs last season to beating us twice to qualifying for the Europa yesterday, it’s been one hell of a 12 months for them that’s for sure. 100% agree, however, let's see their squad once the vultures have had a go at it over the summer, I could see 6 or 7 of them leaving Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 10 hours ago, Peppe said: Same, but £280. Felt inevitable they way this season has gone Aye it was buying money. Whilst I'd much rather not have the money winning best part of £400 was a decent consolation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 6 minutes ago, Ben said: 100% agree, however, let's see their squad once the vultures have had a go at it over the summer, I could see 6 or 7 of them leaving They’ll be fine. They’ll replace them with a cheaper alternative and rinse and repeat, just like Brighton have done for years now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hithere Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 5 hours ago, ChicagoMagpie said: Surprised they are that bothered about Europe, when there entire fanbase supported Brexit, and Reform. Handing flyers out in and outside the ground about keeping Sunderland white. Aint that right, @keithS30S you racist Tw%t Their* And no, we didn’t. I’m married to an EU citizen, and would never vote Reform, I know a lot of Sunderland fans who wouldn’t either. I’d say a lot were indifferent in fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 25 minutes ago, Chicken Dancer said: Think it’s about time people stop saying ‘they’ll be shit soon/next season’. People have been saying it since the second they got promoted and they’ve just finished 7th in their first season in the top flight in a decade. It’s very impressive and the fact they’ve deservedly done us twice along the way probably means it’s the best season they’ve ever experienced. It may not be pretty but it’s effective and signing Xhaka was a masterstroke. I see them more as the next Brighton/Brentford, proper data nonces but they’ll never really be in danger again imo. Staying up the first season was always going to be the hardest part and they’d had that wrapped up by about Christmas. Genuinely believe they’re here to stay and probably kick on now, though suspect the ceiling will be about Europa. From the late goals in the playoffs last season to beating us twice to qualifying for the Europa yesterday, it’s been one hell of a 12 months for them that’s for sure. The second season up is notoriously difficult for teams, most of them don't have to deal with midweek European games too. I'm not saying they'll go down but they'll certainly find it difficult to balance Europe and the PL, especially if they lose players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 15 minutes ago, Chicken Dancer said: Think it’s about time people stop saying ‘they’ll be shit soon/next season’. People have been saying it since the second they got promoted and they’ve just finished 7th in their first season in the top flight in a decade. It’s very impressive and the fact they’ve deservedly done us twice along the way probably means it’s the best season they’ve ever experienced. It may not be pretty but it’s effective and signing Xhaka was a masterstroke. I see them more as the next Brighton/Brentford, proper data nonces but they’ll never really be in danger again imo. Staying up the first season was always going to be the hardest part and they’d had that wrapped up by about Christmas. Genuinely believe they’re here to stay and probably kick on now, though suspect the ceiling will be about Europa. From the late goals in the playoffs last season to beating us twice to qualifying for the Europa yesterday, it’s been one hell of a 12 months for them that’s for sure. Just looked it up and Sunderland came up playing acedemy players an average of around 26% that season (figures from chat gpt so take with a pinch of salt) and this season is still very high where as the rest of the league have around 10% with pattison playing almost every minute, this saves them a fortune in wages and now they have European money on that. Say what you want but they seem to be run really well and there's no reason they won't push on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 20 minutes ago, Ben said: 100% agree, however, let's see their squad once the vultures have had a go at it over the summer, I could see 6 or 7 of them leaving If they do there's a high chance some will be gone grown with 100% profit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Just now, Gawalls said: Just looked it up and Sunderland came up playing acedemy players an average of around 26% that season (figures from chat gpt so take with a pinch of salt) and this season is still very high where as the rest of the league have around 10% with pattison playing almost every minute, this saves them a fortune in wages and now they have European money on that. Say what you want but they seem to be run really well and there's no reason they won't push on. It doesn't always go that way. We got Champions League last season and 12 months later we're a lot worse off as a team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 4 minutes ago, Decky said: The second season up is notoriously difficult for teams, most of them don't have to deal with midweek European games too. I'm not saying they'll go down but they'll certainly find it difficult to balance Europe and the PL, especially if they lose players. You’re right but they’ll be absolutely fine. They’ll easily finish above the 3 teams that are coming up, I’d be surprised if any of them survived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Still think they're in the unsustainable zone and will massively struggle next season unless they make big changes. Brentford were in the same position and managed it so it's not impossible. Normally I'd say the Europa being factored would make it extra hard as well, but that competition has fallen off a cliff this season and last so might not affect their league form as much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 1 minute ago, Decky said: It doesn't always go that way. We got Champions League last season and 12 months later we're a lot worse off as a team. And someone's it does Brentford, Brighton, Bournemouth get picked dry all the time but they always bounce back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 3 minutes ago, Chicken Dancer said: You’re right but they’ll be absolutely fine. They’ll easily finish above the 3 teams that are coming up, I’d be surprised if any of them survived. Yeah I feel Coventry and Hull straight away are giving the premiere teams two easy relegation spots too not think about straight away, can't even remember who the bloody third team is now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 3 minutes ago, Chicken Dancer said: You’re right but they’ll be absolutely fine. They’ll easily finish above the 3 teams that are coming up, I’d be surprised if any of them survived. Yeah I feel Coventry and Hull straight away are giving the premiere teams two easy relegation spots too not think about straight away, can't even remember who the bloody third team is now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Just now, Gawalls said: Yeah I feel Coventry and Hull straight away are giving the premiere teams two easy relegation spots too not think about straight away, can't even remember who the bloody third team is now. Ipswich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Still think they're in the unsustainable zone and will massively struggle next season unless they make big changes. Brentford were in the same position and managed it so it's not impossible. Normally I'd say the Europa being factored would make it extra hard as well, but that competition has fallen off a cliff this season and last so might not affect their league form as much. Everyone's been thinking these negative things about them for years now but I genuinely think they're being rub with direction and they'll be fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Just now, Wallsendmag said: Ipswich Oh then yeah there's your three going down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 I genuinely can’t believe how many idiots were happy they got promoted as it was apparently ‘six easy points’. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 If this season has taught us anything surely it's to not assume the three coming up will go straight back down two days after the playoff final? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 You just know they're going to make sure they're everyone's football friends on their way trips next season the gimps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 If we had gotten the six points from them as expected, we would have been in their position and them lower than us. So those two wins against us effectively got them the Europa League and us with nothing. Even just winning that home game would have meant we finished above them. Fine margins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guillaume Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 Forest, Palace and us all had decent finishes/seasons last year and with a European campaign this season really struggled in the league. They are 4th favourites to go down for next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 3rd bottom of the xg table Carried a lot of luck this year Cunts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 I do fancy them for relegation next season. but beating us twice, finishing above us in 7th and qualifying for Europa league is an insane season. Im terrified they win it too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 15 hours ago, gbandit said: Reckon they’ll be a decent bet to get relegated next season. They won’t have the squad to cope with Europe and the league and they’ve over-performed this season significantly points-wise. Just look at their goal difference Agreed. As long as the European competition continue in this format. I can see a PL team winning the Europa league and getting relegated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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