Tonalis Bookie Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, FloydianMag said: For £2 million………get to fuck, and this isn’t a CAS issue it’s Employment Law, CAS doesn’t have jurisdiction. Yes, they do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 minutes ago, Tonalis Bookie said: It may be in the contract but it comes down to 'reasonableness' - on average reasonableness is about 6 months. If he made NUFC aware of his intent to leave in January. by June he could be free to go. Any compensation owed will also be limited by time passed and gardening leave conditions / reasonableness. If CAS say 2 years is too much, maybe its a year, he will have already served a number of months and we might have 4 or 5 months of finances owed then, to which out 20m is pointless. So we could lose out on all our bargaining positions for a few mil. On Ashworths part it isnt great, but it's a job end of the day. He got the chance to go to a bigger club at a great time where he isnt financially hamstrung. Without fandom most of us do it, its business sadly and MUFC have a strong position when we look at it that way also - From manchester so United is a given sadly Sorry, that is just wrong. Six months is the average gardening leave term, but the term is agreed as part of the employment contract. It isn't just something you can stomp your feet about, claim is unfair, then leave early. Reading your posts, I'm not even convinced you are a Newcastle fan to be honest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Just now, Froggy said: Aye Omar Berrada and Jason Wilcox don't have a clue what they're at. We'll see man. Chelsea got in a lot of people that were highly qualified, but the man at the top was a buffoon and we saw how that all transpired. Summer soon come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Tonalis Bookie said: Yes, they do Like fuck, Employment Tribunals give legally binding rulings on employment not some quasi sporting body. Edited April 24 by FloydianMag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 13 minutes ago, Froggy said: Aye Omar Berrada and Jason Wilcox don't have a clue what they're at. Without Ashworth there to facilitate, those guys will be out of control and directionless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, Kimbo said: Without Ashworth there to facilitate, those guys will be out of control and directionless. I would sure hope not, given that Berrada will be Ashworth's boss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Just now, Froggy said: I would sure hope not, given that Berrada will be Ashworth's boss. How do you see the Ashworth saga playing out Froggy? An agreement before the summer window for ~10mill or so? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 He's probably done a good job overall, but I'll always remember him as the bloke who spoke about the importance regarding due diligence in recruitment, then he went to Milan and signed Tonali Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, aussiemag said: How do you see the Ashworth saga playing out Froggy? An agreement before the summer window for ~10mill or so? No I don't think it'll be done before the window. While some people might try and crticise him now as he's leaving, the fact is he's considered as one of the best or the best in his role. I think Newcastle would be mental to let him leave now and be able to work through the summer with Wilcox and Berrada. The next window is absolutely huge for both clubs IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCK Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I'd pay money to see Jason Wilcox tell Ten Hag he's shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) Just a friendly reminder that @Froggygloated and mocked with his trademark emoji, when we paid £60 million for Isak. Citing an inability to score goals. While at the same time celebrating the £60 million purchase of a Brazilian relic whose legs have expired within a year and who will now already need replacing. More comedy moments to come this summer. Watch this space. Edited April 24 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCK Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I'm going to miss Man U wasting money on absolute shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 It's great to see how shit Man U have become. Long may it continue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 minutes ago, KaKa said: Just a friendly reminder that @Froggygloated and mocked with his trademark emoji, when we paid £60 million for Isak. Citing an inability to score goals. While at the same time celebrating the £60 million purchase of a Brazilian relic whose legs have expired within a year and who will now already need replacing. More comedy moments to come this summer. Watch this space. I didn't gloat. I said it was a huge fee for someone who scored 1 in 3 in La Liga. It was a huge fee. I stand by everything I said. Friendly reminder Martial had more goals and assists per 90 than Isak last season. Isak is clearly talented, but he's only managed to make the pitch for 50% of your minutes this season. Lets calm it down a little before acting like £65m was some sort of magic bargain. Also, Casemiro was one of the most important players in getting us back into the Champions League and winning our first trophy in years. It was hardly a laughable signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCK Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I recall everyone laughed at Casemiro signing. Even Casemiro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, OCK said: I recall everyone laughed at Casemiro signing. Even Casemiro. He can win his 10th final in a row next month then sail off into the sunset with PIF's money in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Froggy said: I didn't gloat. I said it was a huge fee for someone who scored 1 in 3 in La Liga. It was a huge fee. I stand by everything I said. Friendly reminder Martial had more goals and assists per 90 than Isak last season. Isak is clearly talented, but he's only managed to make the pitch for 50% of your minutes this season. Lets calm it down a little before acting like £65m was some sort of magic bargain. Also, Casemiro was one of the most important players in getting us back into the Champions League and winning our first trophy in years. It was hardly a laughable signing. You can have your Carabao and busted flush Brazilian who the Coventry boys were skipping past for fun. I'll have Isak thanks. What's especially funny about your proclamations about Isak, is that you then spent even more on Hojlund who has been more injured and had an even lesser goal record prior to signing for you. Hold that L man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 26 minutes ago, Froggy said: I would sure hope not, given that Berrada will be Ashworth's boss. He’ll just be a spoke in Ashworth’s wheel. Imagine a wheel with loads of spokes and no middle bit. That’s what you have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, KaKa said: You can have your Carabao and busted flush Brazilian who the Coventry boys were skipping past for fun. I'll have Isak thanks. What's especially funny about your proclamations about Isak, is that you then spent even more on Hojlund who has been more injured and had an even lesser goal record prior to signing for you. Hold that L man. Hojlund is 3 years younger and already has more goals in his first season than Isak did. Hold that L for sure man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 minutes ago, Kimbo said: He’ll just be a spoke in Ashworth’s wheel. Imagine a wheel with loads of spokes and no middle bit. That’s what you have. I enjoyed this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Froggy said: Hojlund is 3 years younger and already has more goals in his first season than Isak did. Hold that L for sure man. Oh man, the cope is real. Unfortunately for you, getting older doesn't automatically mean improvement, especially at your club. Ask Martial. Our strikers value has already doubled and even your fans are all over the place gagging for him, along with everyone else. We'll soon see the mess you'll make of Hojlund, who you won't get your money back for right now. He's already looking worse each week from how he started. You are in the mud. Edited April 24 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, Tonalis Bookie said: Let me lay a few points out that we need to consider and how it benefits us by doing a deal If united are smart (and they will be) they'll have applied to CAS and they will probably get their way A CAS hearing could be expedited and he be in place before the end of this window If we go to CAS and do not win, we have a precedent against us There is a significant chance we get much less than we want It may well void a number of terms we currently have We may actually end up losing out on what we could get and damage our own FFP We may not be able to hire an individual in place of DA whilst hes here If we deal we can delay a start date We can also implement terms on players that can & cannot be recruited as part of an expedited agreement We can protect information and hire a replacement quicker We can insert terms regarding any staff or other individuals that MUFC may wish to get from us We have the ability to control the situation going forward All of this so United potentially wait a few months is damaging 'United', FFS man, please stop typing that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) Stop it children. (koke and frog) Edited April 24 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, lovejoy said: 'United', FFS man, please stop typing that. Mad how much you see this on here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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