Memberships (2024/25)

[mattypnufc]

6 minutes ago, NSG said:

Magpie Mover opened up to Mags+ members now.  

Ooo wheres this? 

[NSG]

3 minutes ago, mattypnufc said:

Ooo wheres this? 

 

 

[mattypnufc]

 

Sorry, for context this was from the latest FAB notes. 

 

Hopefully someone can point them in the direction of Chelsea's membership points/waiting list. I have no idea who the FAB are, other than thunderbirds. 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 08:04 by mattypnufc

[Optimistic Nut]

What's the craic with the Family Enclosure? Is it mainly season ticket holders or individual ones? Surely doesn't need to be as big as it is now the demand is there. Not even sure I'd release more season tickets until the new ground/extension but that could easily open up 2-3k match-by-match tickets? 

[bobbydazzla]

6 hours ago, mattypnufc said:

 

Sorry, for context this was from the latest FAB notes. 

 

Hopefully someone can point them in the direction of Chelsea's membership points/waiting list. I have no idea who the FAB are, other than thunderbirds. 

 

 

 

 

A Chelsea scheme would be the winner for me. Give people without ST's an opportunity to build up some form of points based recognition from the club for the effort they put in to get to games

 

And the FAB is https://www.newcastleunited.com/en/fans/fan-advisory-board

 

 

 

 

[gotham town]

57 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

A Chelsea scheme would be the winner for me. Give people without ST's an opportunity to build up some form of points based recognition from the club for the effort they put in to get to games

 

And the FAB is https://www.newcastleunited.com/en/fans/fan-advisory-board

 

 

 

 

 

If by 'effort' you mean multi browser/shared account details/continuous refreshing of resale etc, then I think those in the data room and box office are more likely to flag your account and suspend/ban you than give you any kind off accreditation.

[bobbydazzla]

2 hours ago, gotham town said:

 

If by 'effort' you mean multi browser/shared account details/continuous refreshing of resale etc, then I think those in the data room and box office are more likely to flag your account and suspend/ban you than give you any kind off accreditation.

 

True dat

 

But by effort I just mean actually getting some tickets and going to some games

 

At the moment, our membership scheme means a punter who has regularly gone to games for years has the same standing as a punter who's not a Newcastle fan but is visiting the city and fancies going to a single match 

 

[Wallsendmag]

On 11/06/2025 at 06:45, mattypnufc said:

 

Sorry, for context this was from the latest FAB notes. 

 

Hopefully someone can point them in the direction of Chelsea's membership points/waiting list. I have no idea who the FAB are, other than thunderbirds. 

 

 

 

 

Long story but my son follows Chelsea. I take him down to Stamford Bridge a few times a season as long as it doesn't clash with NUFC being at home so we've got memberships. 

 

Basically members accrue points in exactly the same way as season ticket holders do and can build up loyalty points for attending home and away games. ST holders automatically get their home loyalty points. Away game allocations are split 60/40 ST holders to members and how many points you are awarded depends on the opposition (1 point awarded for London away games, plus Man Utd/Man City/Liverpool), 3 points for everywhere else. Those aforementioned games are sold on a loyalty points basis whereas the other away games are sold on a "free for all" basis, meaning that even if you have 0 points you could still try your luck for NUFC away when they go on members sale.

 

No scheme is perfect but it includes all supporters and indeed despite my son only having 11 loyalty points he was able to get a ticket for the Conference Final the other week as it went to a members "free for all" sale.

 

At the end of every season they will work out how many STs are available and then invite any members who meet the points requirement to apply for a season ticket, giving those who attended the most games the previous season a chance to buy a season ticket.

 

They did float the idea of a ballot last summer but it was met with so much opposition from their fans that they didn't go ahead with it.

[Slim]

Waste of time talking about waiting lists when the new trend is to get rid of season tickets. 

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Slim

[bobbydazzla]

30 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

Long story but my son follows Chelsea. I take him down to Stamford Bridge a few times a season as long as it doesn't clash with NUFC being at home so we've got memberships. 

 

Basically members accrue points in exactly the same way as season ticket holders do and can build up loyalty points for attending home and away games. ST holders automatically get their home loyalty points. Away game allocations are split 60/40 ST holders to members and how many points you are awarded depends on the opposition (1 point awarded for London away games, plus Man Utd/Man City/Liverpool), 3 points for everywhere else. Those aforementioned games are sold on a loyalty points basis whereas the other away games are sold on a "free for all" basis, meaning that even if you have 0 points you could still try your luck for NUFC away when they go on members sale.

 

No scheme is perfect but it includes all supporters and indeed despite my son only having 11 loyalty points he was able to get a ticket for the Conference Final the other week as it went to a members "free for all" sale.

 

At the end of every season they will work out how many STs are available and then invite any members who meet the points requirement to apply for a season ticket, giving those who attended the most games the previous season a chance to buy a season ticket.

 

They did float the idea of a ballot last summer but it was met with so much opposition from their fans that they didn't go ahead with it.

 

I've been banging on about the Chelsea system for ages and I'd love it at our place

 

Even if NUFC never sell another season ticket it's a way for a member who attends games to get themselves closer to the privileges (possibility of away games, prioritised cup finals etc) that season ticket holders get 

 

It feels very inclusive, rather than the massive gulf we we have right now between ST's and everyone else being lumped in the same boat

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by bobbydazzla

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I like the idea of loyalty points although starting from 0 feels a bit bad after going to hundreds of games 

 

Don’t see the point of an ST waiting list really, but I would join. Must be about 100 come up every season, if not less. 

[Wallsendmag]

26 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

I've been banging on about the Chelsea system for ages and I'd love it at our place

 

Even if NUFC never sell another season ticket it's a way for a member who attends games to get themselves closer to the privileges (possibility of away games, prioritised cup finals etc) that season ticket holders get 

 

It feels very inclusive, rather than the massive gulf we we have right now between ST's and everyone else being lumped in the same boat

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Think they need to find a happy medium between what we do and what Chelsea do. @AyeDubbleYoomakes a very valid point that it's unfair that you can travel to 100s of away games but it all counts for nothing as your points get wiped to zero after every season (in the event of their being a high profile game in the first month pf the new season they do take into account the previous seasons loyalty points).

 

Personally I always thought a 3 year rolling system would be fairer. I know loads of fans who've got 150+ points and have never done an away game in years, and most of their points were "earned" by letting others use their ticket.

 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by Wallsendmag

[bobbydazzla]

3 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

Think they need to find a happy medium between what we do and what Chelsea do. @AyeDubbleYoomakes a very point that it's unfair that you can travel to 100s of away games but it all counts for nothing as your points get wiped to zero after every season (in the event of their being a high profile game in the first month pf the new season they do take into account the previous seasons loyalty points).

 

Personally I always thought a 3 year rolling system would be fairer. I know loads of fans who've got 150+ points and have never done an away game in years, and most of their points were "earned" by letting others use their ticket.

Yeah, rolling points would be a good middle ground for away games. The hardcore lads and lasses who travel to every single home and away shouldn’t be set back to 0 at the start of each season 

 

And for members building up home points, they could either start it from 0 right now, which is shan on people who've been to loads of games over the last few years but it's better than nowt

Or they could look back at purchase history / ballot applications for the last few seasons and use that as a starting point

 

 

 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by bobbydazzla

[Tross]

50 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

Or they could look back at purchase history / ballot applications for the last few seasons and use that as a starting point

 

 

 

I'd be guaranteed Sunderland (a) if that's the case 

[bobbydazzla]

17 minutes ago, Tross said:

 

I'd be guaranteed Sunderland (a) if that's the case 

 

Steady on now. That's the sort of tomfoolery that causes ructions amongst our season ticket holding posters

 

We're only talking about building up points as a way for match going members to get a degree of priority over members who don't go to games or make ballot applications

 

Using Sunderland at home as an example. It'd prevent some wanksplat MLF from Pennywell or a tourist on a weekend in Newcastle from buying a £40 NUFC membership to give themselves a chance of getting a ticket in the home end 

 

When I was in Lisbon and the Sporting v Benfica title decider derby was on, I couldn't just buy a membership and get ticket because to buy a ticket you needed your membership to have a certain level of purchase history 

 

 

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by bobbydazzla

[Doctor Zaius]

5 hours ago, Wallsendmag said:

Away game allocations are split 60/40 ST holders to members

 

I would love this at NUFC only for the absolute fume it would generate from ST Holders. We might see our first bedsheet protest in years. 

[Scoot]

Just now, Doctor Zaius said:

 

I would love this at NUFC only for the absolute fume it would generate from ST Holders. We might see our first bedsheet protest in years. 

 

Rightly so. People built up loyalty points for years only to now not be able to go because someone who picks and chooses which games they want to go to decides they fancy away games once again.

 

The system works the way it is, it rewards loyalty. So let's just leave it.

[Tross]

3 minutes ago, Scoot said:

 

Rightly so. People built up loyalty points for years only to now not be able to go because someone who picks and chooses which games they want to go to decides they fancy away games once again.

 

The system works the way it is, it rewards loyalty. So let's just leave it.

 

Picks and chooses 

[Chicken Dancer]

I'm fortunately a season ticket holder and can get tickets for more or less any game I would like, home or away. I'm in a very, very fortunate position to have wrapped my ticket when Bruce got the job, alongside my Dad, brother (who sadly passed before we were even taken over. Terrible), and a few mates. I had over 150 loyalty points, so it stung massively as they had taken years and years to accrue. 

 

I was fortunate enough to benefit a year or two ago when a friend was leaving the country and passed on his season ticket to me - that small little window when you could, for the final time, change details on an account.

 

As a season ticket holder, the system for members is not fair whatsoever. I've got a mate who genuinely applied for a ticket in the ballot every single game last year and the last successful one he got was actually Bournemouth or Luton at the very start of 2024. Not one success since, whilst it is a lottery, how can that be fair?

 

The only benefit of the current system is that you can now pass on away tickets (twice I believe) to those who would find it impossible to go otherwise. I totally get that there's plenty who go away every other week and deserve their points, but as @Wallsendmag has correctly said, there are plenty who have only accrued their points by passing it on every week. I know loads myself and even the supporters coach I go on - when I go away, which is rare now I have kids - the organiser of said coach gets about 7/8 every week. Whilst this is good if you're in his circle, my son is essentially fucked as things stand for the foreseeable, at least if he wants to go with me or his Grandad.

 

I'd definitely be in favour of a more inclusive system, and that's from somebody who can attend any game NUFC game I want. I want the next generation to be able to have a fair crack of going, without having to know someone who knows someone to sort them a ticket.

 

At least Charlotte Robson can go every week eh.

[bobbydazzla]

23 minutes ago, Scoot said:

 

Rightly so. People built up loyalty points for years only to now not be able to go because someone who picks and chooses which games they want to go to decides they fancy away games once again.

 

The system works the way it is, it rewards loyalty. So let's just leave it.

What’s your view on members not getting any reward for loyalty, they can attend every single home game for years and get absolutely no recognition from the club and absolutely no priority over a member who’s never been to a game in their lives 
 

Loyalty only counts if you have a season ticket ?

 

 

Edited 54 minutes ago by bobbydazzla

[Wallsendmag]

21 minutes ago, Scoot said:

 

Rightly so. People built up loyalty points for years only to now not be able to go because someone who picks and chooses which games they want to go to decides they fancy away games once again.

 

The system works the way it is, it rewards loyalty. So let's just leave it.

 

Not often that I disagree with you but I do here. If you've been a regular at away games for the past 10/15/20 years you'll know that a lot of people on your bus were there on someone else's ticket. I'd reckon a good 50% if not more. They were putting the miles in, someone else is clicking for the loyalty points. Is that a fair system?

 

I'll use my own dad as a prime example. He's sat on 169 loyalty points. He's been to 3 away games in the last 25 years. His other 166 points are made up of mates of mine using his ticket.

 

I think a 3 year rolling period is fair. My dad still has loyalty points from games he didn't go to in the 1990s! How's can that be right?

 

Members get massively short changed in many ways and away tickets is another example. I'm pretty sure that members of all the other best supported teams in the Country get some kind of access of away tickets.

 

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

For loyalty points you also need to make sure they only go to people who attend the game and not just to the person who buys the tickets. 

[Chicken Dancer]

2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

For loyalty points you also need to make sure they only go to people who attend the game and not just to the person who buys the tickets. 

 

Which is why the fear of ID checks and losing points, though almost universally unpopular, were a good thing imo. Plenty of games drop to lower points thresholds now, but obviously doesn't do anything for members.

[bobbydazzla]

8 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

Not often that I disagree with you but I do here. If you've been a regular at away games for the past 10/15/20 years you'll know that a lot of people on your bus were there on someone else's ticket. I'd reckon a good 50% if not more. They were putting the miles in, someone else is clicking for the loyalty points. Is that a fair system?

 

I'll use my own dad as a prime example. He's sat on 169 loyalty points. He's been to 3 away games in the last 25 years. His other 166 points are made up of mates of mine using his ticket.

 

I think a 3 year rolling period is fair. My dad still has loyalty points from games he didn't go to in the 1990s! How's can that be right?

 

Members get massively short changed in many ways and away tickets is another example. I'm pretty sure that members of all the other best supported teams in the Country get some kind of access of away tickets.

 

 

 

 

It was @TBG who dropped this little doozy into the cup final thread and it still creases me

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 40 minutes ago by bobbydazzla

[Hovagod]

44 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said:

 

I would love this at NUFC only for the absolute fume it would generate from ST Holders. We might see our first bedsheet protest in years. 

Aren’t season ticket holders the ones who don’t protest- because they’re weak and morally corruptible?