patrone Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 minute ago, mattypnufc said: Second ballot? They've said that if your not successful you could be allocated a tkt from another category, if there's any left So sort of a 2nd ballot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 They've sort of implied that, I wouldn't say they've said it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrone Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 So kinda, but not likely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 "Able to re-enter" isn't clear to me. Are they going to ask for another ballot entry? Anyway, who cares, we will see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Interesting that the Club can clamp down on away tickets and ‘touting’ but this shit is literally going on under their nose? Wouldn’t be surprised if touting websites are buying up memberships and entering the ballot. https://x.com/man_about_toon/status/1692578472722416094?s=46&t=vdsN_AHh11-g3YCkSAx-2g Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Didn’t go into the ballot for this one, has it been as much of a shitshow as last time? Just so I know what to expect for the next ballot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, gbandit said: Didn’t go into the ballot for this one, has it been as much of a shitshow as last time? Just so I know what to expect for the next ballot Possibly worse this time, to add to the fun & games they suggested there’d be a 2nd ballot for anyone who was unsuccessful in the 1st ballot But the whereabouts of the 2nd ballot are still a complete mystery. Would have more chance of finding Lord Lucan riding Shergar through the Bermuda Triangle And on the day the ballot opened, the button to enter it on the website was unresponsive for the first 45 mins. Which was a nice touch Edited August 19, 2023 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) 53 minutes ago, TheGuv said: Interesting that the Club can clamp down on away tickets and ‘touting’ but this shit is literally going on under their nose? Wouldn’t be surprised if touting websites are buying up memberships and entering the ballot. https://x.com/man_about_toon/status/1692578472722416094?s=46&t=vdsN_AHh11-g3YCkSAx-2g Exactly this - these sites are obviously well known so why doesn’t the club just buy those tickets themselves to take them off the market and either take away the person’s season ticket (whoever it originally belonged to) or cancel the membership whoever originally bought it and find some way of identifying them to block future purchases or member applications, perhaps by using their bank details? Edited August 19, 2023 by Toontimes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 I’m still confused as to how there were 2 season ticket holders in my seat I bought through the resale for the Villa match last week. Had to get a Steward and their supervisor to sort it out. They made the season ticket holders move as they said they shouldn’t have been there but not sure where they moved them to. It all seemed really dodgy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrone Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 My understanding of these sites is that they don't have the tickets as yet, they take your money, a huge increase on face value, then try to source a ticket. If they manage to source one they keep a cut If not they refund you last minute May be wrong with some of the more "reputable" sites like stub hub, but drhat definitely how these pop up sites run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCOCOL Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 1 hour ago, TheGuv said: Interesting that the Club can clamp down on away tickets and ‘touting’ but this shit is literally going on under their nose? Wouldn’t be surprised if touting websites are buying up memberships and entering the ballot. https://x.com/man_about_toon/status/1692578472722416094?s=46&t=vdsN_AHh11-g3YCkSAx-2g I think the club have made a lot of mistakes here. I’d have given priority to previous members or season ticket holders in any ballot and kept a small number of tickets back for local schools and given these tickets away free. FWIW on the away ticket anti touting controls they’d be better off looking closer to home at how tickets get on the black market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, LV said: I’m still confused as to how there were 2 season ticket holders in my seat I bought through the resale for the Villa match last week. Had to get a Steward and their supervisor to sort it out. They made the season ticket holders move as they said they shouldn’t have been there but not sure where they moved them to. It all seemed really dodgy. Sounds bizarre. Surely your ticket had the seat number on, and their ticket for the seat wouldn’t have the correct match details on- just a case of someone not checking correctly, I guess. But if theirs didn’t have the right details, how did they get in anyway, and as you say, where did they get moved to? Big fuckup somewhere, for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 26 minutes ago, LV said: I’m still confused as to how there were 2 season ticket holders in my seat I bought through the resale for the Villa match last week. Had to get a Steward and their supervisor to sort it out. They made the season ticket holders move as they said they shouldn’t have been there but not sure where they moved them to. It all seemed really dodgy. didn't something similar happen to someone else on here? sounds like people have been selling on their tickets, but their digital pass isn't being deactivated. if they've already downloaded it to their phone I wouldn't be surprised if it still works and lets them through the turnstile. did you get in early and through the turnstile no bother? was it a digital ticket you ended up with? what a monumental fuck up this whole thing has been. honestly, dunno why they've bothered when the infrastructure clearly isn't ready. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Big River said: didn't something similar happen to someone else on here? sounds like people have been selling on their tickets, but their digital pass isn't being deactivated. if they've already downloaded it to their phone I wouldn't be surprised if it still works and lets them through the turnstile. did you get in early and through the turnstile no bother? was it a digital ticket you ended up with? what a monumental fuck up this whole thing has been. honestly, dunno why they've bothered when the infrastructure clearly isn't ready. Yep I had a digital ticket and I got scanned in no bother. I’d got in early (Platinum Club) and went to the bar for a couple of half price drinks. Went to my seat and there was a season ticket holder in it. He showed me his ticket, same seat exactly showing. He looked pretty sheepish like he knew something dodgy had happened. My thinking was maybe that the season ticket holder had sold their tickets back to the club for that game and also sold/ passed his season ticket on for the game too. But otherwise, I have no idea how it happened. Edited August 19, 2023 by LV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 https://x.com/bchandesu/status/1692637054440542716?s=46&t=vdsN_AHh11-g3YCkSAx-2g Another interesting thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) Spoke to a mate who’s a Chelsea fan and member over the weekend. Their system is interesting. You accumulate member loyalty points for games you attend. E.G Liverpool at home gets you 10 points. Whereas a less glamorous fixture in the League Cup vs Barsnley might get you 30 points. When tickets are released to members at 10am the starting threshold may be 200 points. This then reduces at 1pm to 100 points and then by 5pm to 50 points etc. All members tickets will then be sold on that day. Basically, the more points/loyalty you have will more or less guarantee you a ticket to a game you want to attend as long as you log in at the right time. He says it’s a great and fair system. Been plenty of times he’s missed out solely because he hasn’t logged in at 10am and it’s his own fault. Really not sure why we can’t implement something similar. Edited August 20, 2023 by TheGuv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, TheGuv said: Spoke to a mate who’s a Chelsea fan and member over the weekend. Their system is interesting. You accumulate member loyalty points for games you attend. E.G Liverpool at home gets you 10 points. Whereas a less glamorous fixture in the League Cup vs Barsnley might get you 30 points. When tickets are released to members at 10am the starting threshold may be 200 points. This then reduces at 1pm to 100 points and then by 5pm to 50 points etc. All members tickets will then be sold on that day. Basically, the more points/loyalty you have will more or less guarantee you a ticket to a game you want to attend as long as you log in at the right time. He says it’s a great and fair system. Been plenty of times he’s missed out solely because he hasn’t logged in at 10am and it’s his own fault. Really not sure why we can’t implement something similar. I suspect we will in time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) Sounds a much fairer way and protects your more loyal fans who want to go to every game, not just Man U at home. Could also be used to prioritise any season tickets that become available in future. Edited August 20, 2023 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 So how does that work for international members who might go to one or two games a year? They don’t go? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 51 minutes ago, TheGuv said: Spoke to a mate who’s a Chelsea fan and member over the weekend. Their system is interesting. You accumulate member loyalty points for games you attend. E.G Liverpool at home gets you 10 points. Whereas a less glamorous fixture in the League Cup vs Barsnley might get you 30 points. When tickets are released to members at 10am the starting threshold may be 200 points. This then reduces at 1pm to 100 points and then by 5pm to 50 points etc. All members tickets will then be sold on that day. Basically, the more points/loyalty you have will more or less guarantee you a ticket to a game you want to attend as long as you log in at the right time. He says it’s a great and fair system. Been plenty of times he’s missed out solely because he hasn’t logged in at 10am and it’s his own fault. Really not sure why we can’t implement something similar. What about for those people who can't login at 10am because not everyone works at a fucking computer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: What about for those people who can't login at 10am because not everyone works at a fucking computer? Log in at 5pm? 7pm? Friends and Family? Roll it out on a Sunday? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 Then you get thousands more online at the same time, the people who were getting tickets regularly when it was 10am on a Thursday struggle to get them still, and the same complaints reoccur. May as well stick to a ballot where you have a day or so to make your attempt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSG Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) How about everyone who wants a ticket applies within a certain time period, then they dish them out based on how many home games you’ve attended over the last 5 seasons. Rewarding loyalty for members in a similar way to season tickets. It’s exactly the same argument about loyalty points. If the away system is deemed “fair” and new fans can’t get away tickets, then why should new fans get home tickets ahead of those who have been going match by match for years on end? Edited August 20, 2023 by NSG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Then you get thousands more online at the same time, the people who were getting tickets regularly when it was 10am on a Thursday struggle to get them still, and the same complaints reoccur. May as well stick to a ballot where you have a day or so to make your attempt. But that wouldn’t happen with this system. Because the more points you have built up you know when you can purchase a ticket. Exactly the same as the away loyalty point system. If the first members’ loyalty point threshold for the game is 200 points and you only have 40 points you aren’t logging in at that time. The points could drop on a daily basis like the away system does now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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