The College Dropout Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 It's definite anti-British sentiment among football fans. It extends to players and coaches. It's not alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, KaKa said: Yeah, fair point. Maybe it's just a Premier League familiarity thing. I’d agree with that rather than a nationality thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, KaKa said: Just very quickly off the top of my head ... Gallagher, Mount, Rice, Grealish, Ramsdale, Pickford have all typically got a hard time on here. I mean these are all at the very least somewhere between solid to really good players. I just don't get it. The more you see a player the more likely it is that you’ve seen him have a poor game (and if they’re your own nationality, you’ve seen them way more than other players). The old “familiarity breeds contempt” idea in practice, really. Oh and possibly the stereotype of Brits being massive moaners in general may come in to play too . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Not sure what kind of fee they'd ask for but I'd much prefer a move for Eze than Gallagher if it was possible. Think he'd slot in brilliantly into our current system and could play centrally or wide. Probably only the previous injury is a red flag. Tbh I'd probably even prefer him to Maddison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 41 minutes ago, The Prophet said: If we did part with serious cash for Gallagher, there's no way that he's coming in as a squad player. I also couldn't care whether that cash is going to Chelsea, our own needs are far more important. But Chelsea repairing themselves affects us... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 minute ago, KaKa said: Yes indeed. He was another one. I also noticed whenever we get linked with these players, there'll usually be someone mentioning Howe's Brexit Mags or something similarly strange. I may have been guilty of that when we were linked with Gordon and spoke about his previous record at Bournemouth. But I legit watched a fair amount of Gordon (and have been right about him so far). I only watch PL & CL. So I only talk about players in this division in detail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 We shouldn't be buying players like Gallagher and McTominay that aren't good enough for Chelsea and Man United, if they aren't good enough for them then they aren't good enough for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, McCormick said: The more you see a player the more likely it is that you’ve seen him have a poor game (and if they’re your own nationality, you’ve seen them way more than other players). The old “familiarity breeds contempt” idea in practice, really. Oh and possibly the stereotype of Brits being massive moaners in general may come in to play too . Grealish & Rice are/were routinely good to great though. And have had good games against us too. No doubt if they were Spanish they would be higher rated. Same as Nick Pope. Routinely great for Burnley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Likewise, across football, Brazilian players are over-rated by clubs and fans alike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Geogaddi said: We shouldn't be buying players like Gallagher and McTominay that aren't good enough for Chelsea and Man United, if they aren't good enough for them then they aren't good enough for us. I'm not necessarily saying we should be buying these players, but I think we give these clubs way too much credit sometimes. I don't think a lot of them manage their players very well, and so a lot of talent slips through the cracks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 When it comes to British players (we do need them in the squad) I’d rather go for young guys that are ready to make the step up, like Brennan Johnson, Gibbs-White, Alex Scott, over guys that have had a chance at a top club already, then not looked good enough and found themselves on the “get rid” list (Gallagher and McTominay). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: It's definite anti-British sentiment among football fans. It extends to players and coaches. It's not alone. Not just in England as well but around the world there’s this idea that England produces overrated players. I disagree; I watch a lot of world football and England are top 3/4 imo for producing talent in numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Gallagher has only had Boehly-era Chelsea. Can't judge him too harshly for that. MGW is the same age as Gallagher and has shown similar ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, McCormick said: Not just in England as well but around the world there’s this idea that England produces overrated players. I disagree; I watch a lot of world football and England are top 3/4 imo for producing talent in numbers. If Chelsea never get that transfer ban, we probably never see the likes of Fikayo Tomori, Reece James and Mason Mount come through like they did, or even Tammy Abraham who had a really good season that year too. Watching their last few games, I think they have another gem on their hands in Lewis Hall at left back, but he's already got Cucurella and Chilwell ahead of him. I'd 100% be looking to snatch him up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 30 minutes ago, KaKa said: Ward Prowse too! I don't know why, but I see Ward Prowse as a modern day Neil Redfearn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Stal said: I don't know why, but I see Ward Prowse as a modern day Neil Redfearn. A slightly better Ryan Taylor... Would be ideal if we could sub them on for free kicks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 14 minutes ago, KaKa said: If Chelsea never get that transfer ban, we probably never see the likes of Fikayo Tomori, Reece James and Mason Mount come through like they did, or even Tammy Abraham who had a really good season that year too. Watching their last few games, I think they have another gem on their hands in Lewis Hall at left back, but he's already got Cucurella and Chilwell ahead of him. I'd 100% be looking to snatch him up. Think Cucerella is expected to be sold this summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Cucurella has looked legit awful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: A few (poor) links emerging for us being interested in Tyler Adams from Leeds. in there with some other names that get tossed around: https://twitter.com/nbcsportssoccer/status/1663567925452652544?s=46&t=o213wZ3VkQnue4sonSgQAQ He’s limited on the ball, which could preclude us from moving for him. But he’s relentless. I think Eddie would love his tenacity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Just seen an article that says we had one of our scouts Mick Tait at the Coventry vs Luton game to scout Viktor Gyokeres. What's really interesting, that I didn't realise, is that he was actually brought to the UK by Brighton under Ashworth at 18 years old, and they were the ones that sold him to Coventry. Last twist is that he featured internationally for Sweden last year and played alongside Isak, who spoke well of him after the game and enjoyed playing with him. Maybe one to keep an eye on, as a fairly priced third striker option with some upside to eventually take Wilson's place longer term, that will be happy to be part of the rotation in the meantime, as Wilson's fitness is unreliable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Why is my newsnow feed filled with stories about the dippers being in talks for Bruno.. i mean i know it's bullshit, but is it just a campaign to try and unsettle him? Or agent hijinks to get a better contract? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Think Cucerella is expected to be sold this summer Wow! They're going to take a heck of a loss on him if so. Imagine his wages would be high too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Cucurella sounds like a pantomime about a lass who bangs blokes in front of her husband. "he's behind you!" "I know, I'm filming it!". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Dr Jinx said: Why is my newsnow feed filled with stories about the dippers being in talks for Bruno.. i mean i know it's bullshit, but is it just a campaign to try and unsettle him? Or agent hijinks to get a better contract? It's contract time and so I think his agent is putting his name out there to apply pressure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: Why is my newsnow feed filled with stories about the dippers being in talks for Bruno.. i mean i know it's bullshit, but is it just a campaign to try and unsettle him? Or agent hijinks to get a better contract? We're flogging him to fund moves for McTominay and Gallagher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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